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Thrashers @ Islanders; 2-16-08 7:00pm
Topic Started: Feb 15 2008, 07:45 PM (1,704 Views)
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Ziggy16,Feb 16 2008
10:41 PM
i see no 3rd man in b/c there was no instigator called in that play.. and comeau wasnt engaged in a fight.. comeau was never tagged for a penalty at all, so berard cant be called for 3rd man in on a 1 person "fight"

Wrong. That isn't the rule.

The rulebook says "altercation", not fight. A 5 min. major nor a 2 minute roughing needs to be called for a player to be involved in an altercation.

Comeau was clearly INVOLVED in an altercation. He got suckerpunched. Berard was the thrid man into an altercation between Exelby and Comeau. The fact that Comeau didn't throw a punch and didn't even get a penalty is irrelivant. So yes, Berard can be called for third man in, despite the fact as you put it, it was a "one man fight". You may not like it, but that is the rule.

No instigator call needs to be made either. There has never been a connection between the instigator call and a 3rd man in call. third man in calls have been made since the beginning of the nhl. The instigator rule is relatively new.
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Islander4cups,Feb 16 2008
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Ziggy16,Feb 16 2008
10:08 PM
the refs screwed up calls all night..

that exelby play should have broken down to this:

2 Minute Cross Check
2 Minute INSTIGATOR
5 Minute Spearing Major - Intent to Injure
10 MIN MISCONDUCT

and Berard only should have had 2 for Roughing... b/c there were sure no refs around to break tat up... if comeau did anyhting, he would have got 5.. so the msot he should have had was 2.. with a 7 min, yes 7 min isles PP

Not quite. Berard should have gotten thrown out for third man in. Comeau doesn't have to throw a punch or get a penalty to be the second person in an altercation. The altercation was between Exelby and Comeau. Berard did the right thing by jumping in to a teammates defense, but the ref followed the rulebook by throwing him out.

Exelby should have gotten

2 for elbowing
2 for interference
5 for spearing and a game ejection
5 for fighting
2 for instigator

There is no way the ref was going to level ATL with that much penalty time and put them 2 men down for 5 minutes.

Expect Exelby to get a game suspension for this.

The worst part was the punch Exelby threw...it was a deliberate punch at Comeau's throat when Comeau was not only defenseless but clearly was neither prepared nor willing to fight. Exelby had both gloves off and was grabbing Comeau around the shirt collar and with his right hand threw a quick short right into Comeau's throat when Comeau had no chance to react.

Exelby should get 3 games... two for the punch and one for the spear. Campbell will only give him 1 at the most.

I agree with you on everything, but I'd be surprised if he gets one game.
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SPARADISO8116,Feb 16 2008
10:45 PM
Who cares?

WE WON! ! ! !

3 GAME WINNING STREAK AND 5 POINTS OUT OF 6TH. WE ARE NOT GIVING UP NOW, LET'S KEEP THE LOVE TRAIN MOVING.



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Exactly. We won playing the type of game we needed to.

I'll tell you who is really impressing me...


Aaron Johnson on our blueline. No frills, nothing fancy...just getting the job done. He's consistenly better in his own end than MAB, Berard and FM4 since coming off the DL.
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10:51 PM
SPARADISO8116,Feb 16 2008
10:45 PM
Who cares?

WE WON! ! ! !

3 GAME WINNING STREAK AND 5 POINTS OUT OF 6TH. WE ARE NOT GIVING UP NOW, LET'S KEEP THE LOVE TRAIN MOVING.



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Exactly. We won playing the type of game we needed to.

I'll tell you who is really impressing me...


Aaron Johnson on our blueline. No frills, nothing fancy...just getting the job done. He's consistenly better in his own end than MAB, Berard and FM4 since coming off the DL.

I like him but he skates like he has sculeosis.. (no idea how to spell that)
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Poti--- It honestly depends upon Snow and Nolan. Ted has always been a guy who didn't want to send tapes to the league on matters like that. He had that tag in Buffalo because he was old school and believed certain things teams need to fight through and in a way he's right.

There was the hit on Yashin last year by Matt Bradley of the Crapitals that was a clear knee on knee and I thought we should have sent tape of it to the league. You can't let guys do that to your "star". However, Nolan said after the game they wouldn't send tape...

and the league does more with suspensions when teams complain and less when a team sends no tape and says nothing.

I look at it as a matter of protecting your players. I know Nolan is old school, but the Isles aren't really in a postion to have enforcers go "even scores". We need to win games and while I admire Teddy's "old schoolness", I think this is one the league should be made to take a look at.

It was a spear, and then a cheap shot to the throat....on a kid with potential. If Colin-blow says nothing, then that is more fuel for the conspiracy theorist.
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Poti--- It honestly depends upon Snow and Nolan. Ted has always been a guy who didn't want to send tapes to the league on matters like that. He had that tag in Buffalo because he was old school and believed certain things teams need to fight through and in a way he's right.

There was the hit on Yashin last year by Matt Bradley of the Crapitals that was a clear knee on knee and I thought we should have sent tape of it to the league. You can't let guys do that to your "star". However, Nolan said after the game they wouldn't send tape...

and the league does more with suspensions when teams complain and less when a team sends no tape and says nothing.

I look at it as a matter of protecting your players. I know Nolan is old school, but the Isles aren't really in a postion to have enforcers go "even scores". We need to win games and while I admire Teddy's "old schoolness", I think this is one the league should be made to take a look at.

It was a spear, and then a cheap shot to the throat....on a kid with potential. If Colin-blow says nothing, then that is more fuel for the conspiracy theorist.

I hope they do complain, need to protect our players. I just hope that comeau doesn't get intimitated but plays like that. He has been playing outstanding since he came up....Dare, I say this out loud...if Simon was here....
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Poti---  It honestly depends upon Snow and Nolan.  Ted has always been a guy who didn't want to send tapes to the league on matters like that.  He had that tag in Buffalo because he was old school and believed certain things teams need to fight through and in a way he's right.

There was the hit on Yashin last year by Matt Bradley of the Crapitals that was a clear knee on knee and I thought we should have sent tape of it to the league.  You can't let guys do that to your "star".  However, Nolan said after the game they wouldn't send tape...

and the league does more with suspensions when teams complain and less when a team sends no tape and says nothing.

I look at it as a matter of protecting your players.  I know Nolan is old school, but the Isles aren't really in a postion to have enforcers go "even scores".  We need to win games and while I admire Teddy's "old schoolness", I think this is one the league should be made to take a look at.

It was a spear, and then a cheap shot to the throat....on a kid with potential.  If Colin-blow says nothing, then that is more fuel for the conspiracy theorist.

I hope they do complain, need to protect our players. I just hope that comeau doesn't get intimitated but plays like that. He has been playing outstanding since he came up....Dare, I say this out loud...if Simon was here....

that line would have no points. It wouldn't get on the ice because we'd be killing Simon's major penalties.
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Poti---  It honestly depends upon Snow and Nolan.  Ted has always been a guy who didn't want to send tapes to the league on matters like that.  He had that tag in Buffalo because he was old school and believed certain things teams need to fight through and in a way he's right.

There was the hit on Yashin last year by Matt Bradley of the Crapitals that was a clear knee on knee and I thought we should have sent tape of it to the league.  You can't let guys do that to your "star".  However, Nolan said after the game they wouldn't send tape...

and the league does more with suspensions when teams complain and less when a team sends no tape and says nothing.

I look at it as a matter of protecting your players.  I know Nolan is old school, but the Isles aren't really in a postion to have enforcers go "even scores".  We need to win games and while I admire Teddy's "old schoolness", I think this is one the league should be made to take a look at.

It was a spear, and then a cheap shot to the throat....on a kid with potential.  If Colin-blow says nothing, then that is more fuel for the conspiracy theorist.

I hope they do complain, need to protect our players. I just hope that comeau doesn't get intimitated but plays like that. He has been playing outstanding since he came up....Dare, I say this out loud...if Simon was here....

that line would have no points. It wouldn't get on the ice because we'd be killing Simon's major penalties.

true...I just want this guy getting a suspension, he could've seriously hurt comeau
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This Exelby guy (or girl, can't tell due to unnecesary hair length) should definitly be suspended. Cheap shot in the back with the puck out of the area, shot to the crotch, two cheap shots...sounds to me like it deserves about 2 games...

But back to the game...
Good game overall, PP looks like it might be coming into it's own again...
A couple of BS calls against us (Satan's holding), but we stayed out of the box for the most part...well compared to the Thrashers at least...
Applause to Berard. Way to stick up for Comaeu. Totally worth it :thumbsup:
Good hustle and fore/back checking...
Though DP had little challenge against him, I think we should give him one game off. It seems like he's a bit tired both physically and mentally. Give Dubie the crease, let DP get back to 100%.

Looks like just when some people on this board lost hope for the playoffs (myself included), the Islanders manage to pull two great games out of their @$$.
Keep it up boys, keep it up.
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Here's to hoping we pound on the Crapitals on Wed. I'll be in attendance and I don't want to hear it from the 5 Crapitals fans that will be in attendance.

I was able to buy 4 seats in the 12th row yesterday. This is a team in a playoff race and the most exciting player in the league and their city doesn't even know they exist.

Sad...so I don't want to hear crap from the 5 Crapitals fans who show up and know nothing about hockey (good hockey anyway because they never see it)

Kick their AZZZ Isles!!!!
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Obviously one of the best games all-season. Atlanta is now 2-9-1 in second nights of back to backs and I'm glad we jumped on them. We will get the Sharks on a back to back Monday as well and Nabakov may sit.

A few things that have stuck out in the last week or so...

1) Bergie is starting to excel, standing out, strong on the puck, speed, NO stupid penalties.

2) I LOVE Comeau but people were begging for him first line and people on the board were calling him the next "Jason Spezza". He is solid but has not been the same.

3) Almost the same exact words except put in Park.

4) DP's stickhandling has not been as sharp, hope he really focuses on that for the upcoming week, with some teams that can really score.

5) Hilbert has been VERY quiet.

6) Put back in Sillinger, Gervais and Witt.... take out Franz, Berard and ??? We should be pretty strong in March!
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Johnson skates just fine. In fact, he skates better than Meyer, Berard, and Sutton and is a better defenseman than those three and MAB. For some reason it took a rash of injuries for Saint Ted to allow him a chance to show how good he is. No, he isn't an all star defenseman. But he takes the body, has a clue how to play the point on the PP, and has some hockey IQ. It was amazing it took a bunch of injuries for Nolan to get a clue about his game.
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Obviously one of the best games all-season.  Atlanta is now 2-9-1 in second nights of back to backs and I'm glad we jumped on them.  We will get the Sharks on a back to back Monday as well and Nabakov may sit.

A few things that have stuck out in the last week or so...

1) Bergie is starting to excel, standing out, strong on the puck, speed, NO stupid penalties.

2) I LOVE Comeau but people were begging for him first line and people on the board were calling him the next "Jason Spezza".  He is solid but has not been the same. 

3) Almost the same exact words except put in Park.

4) DP's stickhandling has not been as sharp, hope he really focuses on that for the upcoming week, with some teams that can really score.

5) Hilbert has been VERY quiet.

6) Put back in Sillinger, Gervais and Witt.... take out Franz, Berard and ???  We should be pretty strong in March!

Hilbert quiet? I guess it depends on how you define quiet.

Come and join me down near the boards where I watch home games and watch him bang away in the corners, create space for his other two linemates with his digging along the boards. He hasn't been quiet at all. In fact, he was terrific tonight.
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Obviously one of the best games all-season.  Atlanta is now 2-9-1 in second nights of back to backs and I'm glad we jumped on them.  We will get the Sharks on a back to back Monday as well and Nabakov may sit.

A few things that have stuck out in the last week or so...

1) Bergie is starting to excel, standing out, strong on the puck, speed, NO stupid penalties.

2) I LOVE Comeau but people were begging for him first line and people on the board were calling him the next "Jason Spezza".  He is solid but has not been the same. 

3) Almost the same exact words except put in Park.

4) DP's stickhandling has not been as sharp, hope he really focuses on that for the upcoming week, with some teams that can really score.

5) Hilbert has been VERY quiet.

6) Put back in Sillinger, Gervais and Witt.... take out Franz, Berard and ???  We should be pretty strong in March!

Hilbert quiet? I guess it depends on how you define quiet.

Come and join me down near the boards where I watch home games and watch him bang away in the corners, create space for his other two linemates with his digging along the boards. He hasn't been quiet at all. In fact, he was terrific tonight.

:thumbsup:

Concerning Johnson...I'm not surprised that Ted wasn't sold at the beginning of the season. Johnson was not expected to make the team as a starter and didn't really shine in camp. In fact, this stretch is the best I've seen him look...nothing flashy, just responsible and dependable in his own end. It has been a short stretch so who knows if it will last, but he's more reliable than the 4 you mentioned in our own end. Also, he was basically sent packing for nothing from his previous team.

I really look forward to watching this kid develop. He already is better in his end I think based off this small sample of games than everyone not named Witt and Martinek...yes, he's been more impressive in this stretch than Gervais and Campoli were too.

Not saying his is a top 4 dman potentially, but he's showing he has an upside to be a dave langevin type player.
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Obviously one of the best games all-season.  Atlanta is now 2-9-1 in second nights of back to backs and I'm glad we jumped on them.  We will get the Sharks on a back to back Monday as well and Nabakov may sit.

A few things that have stuck out in the last week or so...

1) Bergie is starting to excel, standing out, strong on the puck, speed, NO stupid penalties.

2) I LOVE Comeau but people were begging for him first line and people on the board were calling him the next "Jason Spezza".  He is solid but has not been the same. 

3) Almost the same exact words except put in Park.

4) DP's stickhandling has not been as sharp, hope he really focuses on that for the upcoming week, with some teams that can really score.

5) Hilbert has been VERY quiet.

6) Put back in Sillinger, Gervais and Witt.... take out Franz, Berard and ???  We should be pretty strong in March!

Hilbert quiet? I guess it depends on how you define quiet.

Come and join me down near the boards where I watch home games and watch him bang away in the corners, create space for his other two linemates with his digging along the boards. He hasn't been quiet at all. In fact, he was terrific tonight.

:thumbsup:

Concerning Johnson...I'm not surprised that Ted wasn't sold at the beginning of the season. Johnson was not expected to make the team as a starter and didn't really shine in camp. In fact, this stretch is the best I've seen him look...nothing flashy, just responsible and dependable in his own end. It has been a short stretch so who knows if it will last, but he's more reliable than the 4 you mentioned in our own end. Also, he was basically sent packing for nothing from his previous team.

I really look forward to watching this kid develop. He already is better in his end I think based off this small sample of games than everyone not named Witt and Martinek...yes, he's been more impressive in this stretch than Gervais and Campoli were too.

Not saying his is a top 4 dman potentially, but he's showing he has an upside to be a dave langevin type player.

I disagree with you about Campoli. He has definitely been missed by this team. Especially with what he can do on the PP and when he jumps into the play 5 on 5. Johnson has been a pleasant surprise though. Great stretch lately. Don't care for him to be on the wing though.

Bergeron has been making a case for himself lately too. As long as he doesnt see top 4 minutes, he's a great help to us with his shot from the point. Still think he's going to be traded though.
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10:43 PM
what happened with berrard???? i missed the whole 3rd period

BERARD DID SOMETHING AN ISLANDER HASNT DONE IN YEARS IN A REGULATION GAME

HE STOOD UP FOR ONE OF HIS OWN

IF I WASNT IN THE FRONT ROW WATHING IT

I WOULD HAVE NEVER BELIEVED IT HAPPENED


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Great game!


I've found a new favorite, Sean freakin' Bergenheim I love the guy!


So, I visit a Thrashers board, and they are calling Comeau a "gutless puke" for his "headshot" on the Exelby.

Saying it's Comeau second dirty hit this season ( Higgins hit, which while dangerous wasn't dirty IMO) one guy is saying that Comeau has been a dirty player since his junior days and WJC.

Can anyone here confirm that?

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Great game!


I've found a new favorite, Sean freakin' Bergenheim I love the guy!


So, I visit a Thrashers board, and they are calling Comeau a "gutless puke" for his "headshot" on the Exelby.

Saying it's Comeau second dirty hit this season ( Higgins hit, which while dangerous wasn't dirty IMO) one guy is saying that Comeau has been a dirty player since his junior days and WJC.

Can anyone here confirm that?

Don't worry about it. The Trashers are a joke of an organization and their fans are GA rednecks who have no idea about hockey to begin with.

The Trashers have a history of this nonsense. They had line brawls last year with the Crapitals, Sabres, Canes and Lightning because whenever they get blown out, they resort to this nonsense in the final minutes of the game.

In a way, it is funny because that was the most active Exelby had been on any shift in that game.

Trashers fans claiming anyone is dirty is just a joke. You've seen Comeau now for 3 months or so. Have you seen him spear anyone? Have you seen him sucker punch someone in the throat?

Next time they cry to you about Comeau, show them this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMufp0wkCno
Even the Habs announcers say Higgins put himself in a bad situation by turning into the hit at the last minute.

Exelby is a busher and a cheap hack of a player. Plain and simple. Don't put too much credance into what the Deliverance Fan Club says. Who knew they knew how to get on the internet.
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