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| Comeau hitting his stride for Islanders; from Greg Logan (Newsday) | |
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| stevedepot | Dec 8 2008, 09:52 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/ny-sp...8,0,88572.story
I have to call out our coach Gordon on this. I am calling Gordon a LIAR, That's right. He's full of it. Comeau played 5 preseason while (1-way contract boy) Jeff Tambellini played only 3 games. Tambellini's spot was secured despite doing ZIP in preseason. The few times I watched clips of him on iTV I saw ZIP as it relates to what Gordon was looking for from Blake Comeau. To me, Scott Gordon is trying to save face in light of the whoile Tambellini failure. Afraid to call out Snow for handing AHL boy a 1-way deal??? Bullspit. How about some honesty Gordon? Just when I started liking the guy.
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| Westfall18 | Dec 8 2008, 10:00 AM Post #2 |
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did you see any of the Islanders pre-season games? Blake Comeau was LAZY |
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| stevedepot | Dec 8 2008, 10:02 AM Post #3 |
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yes. Not my point. Tambellini was no better. That's the problem. It boiled down to the contract situation of each player. |
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| RWWallpaper | Dec 8 2008, 10:25 AM Post #4 |
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Gordon said himself Comeau did nothing to distinguish himself from the other guys at his position and HE HAD EXTRA BODIES at that point, hence the demotion. I don't have a problem with that logic at all. If you have 2 young players who have not impressed one way or the other, the guy who does not have to clear waivers gets the ticket back to Bridgeport...makes sense to me. |
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| Webb20 | Dec 8 2008, 10:44 AM Post #5 |
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I dont think the problem was Comeau not warranting a job out of camp, I think the problem was giving Tambellini a 2 year 1 way contract on faith. |
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| stevedepot | Dec 8 2008, 10:52 AM Post #6 |
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That's one of my issues on this matter and RWW is correct. But my problem is Gordon's quotes basically taking Comeau to task for what he did or didn't do in preseason, while Tambellini was FAR worse and has NOT received any criticism thanks to that contract. Took how many games for "Tamby" to be benched? How many games did he without finishing checks? Gordon could have been a little more reserved in his criticism of Comeau (IMO) because he comes across as a liar to me for not saying anything about Tambellini sooner. Plus, Comeau was paired with injured spazmo Comrie in preseason for a few games who's biggest highlight from what i remember was fighting Gionta - bad hip and all. |
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| klynch | Dec 8 2008, 11:17 AM Post #7 |
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Steve you and i usually agree but not here, i have no problem with what Gordon said. What do you want him to say, we kept him down b/c Tamby had a one way deal? That would hurt Blakes confidence and Tamby's as well, and to be honest Blake was AWFUL in preseason. If this little Bridgeport trip taought him a lesson about playing 100% and being prepared all the time, then it maybe the best thing to ever happen to Blake. |
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| rifleman22 | Dec 8 2008, 11:20 AM Post #8 |
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Tamby made it because of the contract. Blake was an easy scapegoat. If both of these statements are true, then shame on this organization for not having the gonads to admit their mistake. They made us suffer through 23 non-productive games. And if you think that sucks, try living in Blake's shoes for the last few months. What if Blake becomes the next "no confidence because of the way I've been handled" Islander? Who's to blame? Garth Snow, Scott Gordon- stand up please. And for Blake- go for it. And prove them wrong. |
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| stevedepot | Dec 8 2008, 11:30 AM Post #9 |
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Simple. Scott Gordon: "Blake didn't have the best training camp, but he proved at Bridgeport why he belongs up here, that's a credit to him and his work ethic and we hope he maintains that work ethic." The whole "FORCING" his hand is what ticks me off. Tambellini's contract FORCED his hand.
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| Webb20 | Dec 8 2008, 12:00 PM Post #10 |
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Steve, the contract is the problem. Snow's contract. You want Gordon to be so honest he throws Snow under the bus and points the finger of responsibility right to his boss in the press? What would happen to you if you did that? I know I'd be on the unemployment line thinking about what my next line of work would be. Don't try to read toooooo much into this because in the end Comeau is here and Tamby is in bridgeport. Let's just hope it stays that way, but with these contracts Gordon may not have the choice. |
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I sold it all, retired and moved to Fabulous Las Vegas! "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Ben Franklin "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."-Ronald Reagan | |
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| puckhead | Dec 8 2008, 12:03 PM Post #11 |
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Gordon may not have any choice in many things this franchise does. Let's not forget how decisions have been made the last few years. And when the coach disagrees with the GM, he's usually out the door. |
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| totallypucked | Dec 8 2008, 01:28 PM Post #12 |
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Do you people completely forget that Blake Comeau had a spot on the roster for the taking, and he was counted in among the 12 forwards all the way until almost the last day of training camp? It's not like it came down to Comeau fighting for a spot with someone else, Comeau had it in the bag, but Gordon obviously saw something in Comeau's play that he didn't like. The Islanders claimed Nate Thompson off of waivers, and then it became a numbers issue. You can make the argument that Gordon wanted Thompson regardless, but he obviously wanted Comeau to work on something, since he wasn't called up until now. |
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| bringbackziggy | Dec 8 2008, 01:46 PM Post #13 |
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To be completely honest, Tambellini EARNED a 1-way contract based on his accomplishments in the AHL and he EARNED the opportunity to atleast be given a legitmate shot at the NHL level by his accomplishment in the AHL. Thats the way pro sports work...all of them. If you dominate a minor league level you are given an opportunity at the major league level to prove yourself, and being given 2 games at a clip and playing 4 minutes in those games as Tamby was in the past is absolutely not being given a true opportunity. So get over it because Tambellini earned the opportunity that he was given this season. Yea he may have failed, but he earned the opportunity to fail. |
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| stevedepot | Dec 8 2008, 01:50 PM Post #14 |
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:lol: Earned? a 1-way? yeah ok. Guess you didn't pay attention to what he did up here when he played with the big club in comparison to Comeau. If it was a 2 way deal, I'd have no issue at all. :lol: |
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| bringbackziggy | Dec 8 2008, 01:52 PM Post #15 |
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yea well then he doesnt sign at all...because he and his agent most likely are not signing a 2-way deal because he EARNED a shot at the NHL and didnt have any interest in going back to the AHL |
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| 4CUPZ | Dec 8 2008, 01:59 PM Post #16 |
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AND THE DOWNSIDE WOULD HAVE BEEN????? |
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| totallypucked | Dec 8 2008, 02:00 PM Post #17 |
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No different than how you conveniently don't pay attention to his accomplishments in the AHL. Doesn't the AHL exist exactly for developmental purposes and to give young players a shot to show how they can play in a professional league, and shouldn't the players who excel there be rewarded? Otherwise, why should they try at all in the AHL? And besides, I think its an agreed upon fact that Tambellini's chances under Nolan weren't exactly a golden opportunity, that's something the GM and even the wacky owner of this team alluded to on a number of occasions. Say what you want about his play this season, but to question the contract is ridiculous. |
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| bringbackziggy | Dec 8 2008, 02:02 PM Post #18 |
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Also just thought I would point out that a Two-way contract only means that a player has two different salaries, one for the NHL level and one for the AHL level. It has nothing to do with the waivers situation. Because Tambellini had played 79 games prior to signing the contract he only had one more game of NHL experience left before he would have to go through waivers. The waiver exemption is based on the number of years since a player first signed a pro contract and the number of games played. Once a player his age plays 80 games at the NHL level he has to pass through waivers whether he has a One-way or Two-way. Since everyone knew that Tambellini was going to be given a chance this season the 80th game was given. |
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| 4CUPZ | Dec 8 2008, 02:03 PM Post #19 |
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ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE AHL STAY IN THE AHL NOBODY CARES ABOUT THEM UNLESS YOU'RE AN AHL FAN WE SAID IT LAST YEAR AND IT STILL STICKS TODAY A ONE-WAY CONTRACT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE ok i stand corrected I WOULD HAVE LET HIM WALK HELL I WOULD HAVE DROVE HIM |
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| bringbackziggy | Dec 8 2008, 02:06 PM Post #20 |
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I guess theres no point to trying hard if your an AHL player then correct? Because all you AHL accomplishments should just keep you in the AHL for eternity. |
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