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Comeau hitting his stride for Islanders; from Greg Logan (Newsday)
Topic Started: Dec 8 2008, 09:52 AM (727 Views)
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I thought Comeau was easily the best player on the ice period in that dreadful game Saturday night...

he was skating, hitting, getting good chances....
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TP, if he's contributing in other ways, playing good D, killing penalties, acting as an instigator to get the other team off their game, dropping down and blocking shots there would be no problem, but he's been tabbed as a one-dimentional player, he's a 'goal scorer', and for 100+ games in his NHL career he's not shown anykind of life in that respect. That's why he's a problem. It send the wrong message to the other players, that if you're not pulling your weight or doing your job, dont worry it's ok. Bad bad example to all players, especially the vets, by management. The last thing we need is the GM, the coach and the players accepting less than the best they can give.

If this was Torrey in 1974, Tambellini would've been gone 75 games ago. This is a professional hockey team, not a 3rd grade intramural league where everyone gets to play. Professional sports are and have always been performance driven.
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I don't have a problem with Go-Go's logic. Part of it is because he can't blame Garth for his hand being forced when it came to Bambi. If he also saw something in Comeau's play that he didn't like, then that is the way it is. Few people who post here watched Comeau, and also know Go-Go's system as well as the man himself. No bitching about Comeau, let's just be happy he is up with the big boys finally, and doing what is necessary.
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stevedepot,Dec 8 2008
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http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/ny-sp...8,0,88572.story

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Comeau hitting his stride for Islanders

BY GREG LOGAN | greg.logan@newsday.com
    December 8, 2008

The Blake Comeau who buzzed around the net as well as any Islanders forward in a 5-1 loss to Atlanta Saturday night at Nassau Coliseum bore no resemblance to the Blake Comeau coach Scott Gordon saw in training camp. This energetic Comeau, who had three shots on goal, two near-misses (including one that rang off a post) and three solid hits in only 11:04 of ice time, looked like a player Gordon can use.

Thinking of the crushing hit Comeau laid on the Thrashers' Todd White at center ice, Gordon said yesterday, "I thought, 'I'd love to have this in our lineup.' But I didn't see it in training camp. You can talk about what he was last year, but I can only go off what I see this year, and I didn't like what I saw.

"I brought him in last night and said, 'You're here. Jack spoke very favorably of the way you played. Now it's your job to make sure you continue to do that on an all-the-time basis so that we can't send you back."'

Gordon said Comeau had difficulty catching on to his forechecking system and indulged habits that weren't productive, and he couldn't recall one good hit by Comeau in training camp or six preseason games.

"If he had played like he did last night when he was in training camp, we probably wouldn't have sent him to Bridgeport," Gordon said. "He didn't give me anything to latch on to in exhibitions, and we had extra bodies at the time. He forced my hand. Now I hope he forces my hand the other way."


Comeau was called up on an emergency basis to replace Jeff Tambellini, who accepted a two-week conditioning stint in Bridgeport after failing to score a goal in 23 games this season. As the Islanders head out on a four-game road trip that begins tonight in Toronto, the clock is ticking for Comeau to show he belongs.

If he does, it's going to create a roster decision for general manager Garth Snow, who might have to decide whether to expose Tambellini to waivers for the purpose of assigning him to Bridgeport. Because Tambellini has a one-way deal for two years, the risk of his being claimed when he's struggling at the NHL level is minimal. On the other hand, Tambellini's father, Steve, is Edmonton's GM.

Although Comeau feels playmaking is his strength, he knows he must shoot more and understands that the physical component is essential. "I was playing physical in Bridgeport," Comeau said. "I think that's a big reason I got a chance to play up here. I can't take anything for granted. I've got to keep playing physical every night. I've got to earn my spot in the lineup."

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I have to call out our coach Gordon on this.
I am calling Gordon a LIAR, That's right. He's full of it.
Comeau played 5 preseason while (1-way contract boy)
Jeff Tambellini played only 3 games.

Tambellini's spot was secured despite doing ZIP in preseason.
The few times I watched clips of him on iTV I saw ZIP as it relates to what Gordon was looking for
from Blake Comeau.

To me, Scott Gordon is trying to save face in light of the whoile Tambellini failure.
Afraid to call out Snow for handing AHL boy a 1-way deal???

Bullspit. How about some honesty Gordon? Just when I started liking the guy.

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Call him out all you want, but that is EXACTLY what I'd want to hear from a coach if I were Comeau.

1- Gordon was consistent. He said the same thing at the end of camp that he said yesterday. The reasons he gave for sending down Comeau in Oct are the same he listed in that article.

2- When Comeau showed him something he wanted to see, he immediately got praised for it.

3- Comeau was told make it impossible for Gordon to send him back and Comeau was the best Islander on the ice...and Gordon acknowledged it.

If I'm a young kid, I respect that. There are no crossed wires here. Comeau was given a set of expectations and they are clear. Are they the same as Tamby's since day 1??? No. And wgaf. Jimmy Johnson coaching the Cowboys said it clearly, "no all players are the same and not all are treated the same". Tamby was making the team no matter what because we had to see what he could do...make or break time. He's broke. Not the same for Comeau...and this sort of thing does happen on other teams as well.

Call him out all you want, but mho is you are off base on your criticism of Gordon. No offense.
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bringbackziggy,Dec 8 2008
02:18 PM

You guys always talk about how a player needs to earn his oppotunities and earn his ice time and earn a call up. Well Tambellini earned his shot. But because its Tambellini you hypocrites dont wanna give him a shot. No matter what anyone ever says you will never have never had an open mind toward him because he didnt come up in his LIMITED opportunities previously and produce like he was f#@king Ovechkin. You all threw him under the bus before giving him an opportunity and never even wanted him to succeed.

What are you talking about? He was given a shot. As you mentioned, he's now played 100+ career nhl games.

His career nhl stats...

NHL TOTALS 102 games 4g 15a 19pts -11

How is 102 nhl games "not a shot"?

His Islander numbers...
2005-2006 Islanders 21games 1g 3a 4pts 2
2006-2007 Islanders 23games 2g 7a 9pts 6
2007-2008 Islanders 31games 1g 3a 4pts -9
2008-2009 Islanders 23games 0g 2a 2pts -9



BILLY CARROL WAS MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN THIS!!!!!!!!

The idea that Tambellini hasn't "gotten a shot" is a joke. Who else has a shot that lasts 102+ games?

As was mentioned, if Tambellini did other things like backcheck, block shots, grind in corners, bang along the boards or was a solid defensive forward for a 3rd line then I could see a point that his production isn't the end of the world. But he doesn't do those things.

He's had parts of 4 seasons to impress us...is anyone impressed yet?

spare me the "he didn't get a shot" nonsense. He's been touted as a goalscorer who doesn't score. The nhl is filled with guys who were AHL all stars that had to change their games when they got to the nhl to find a niche. Sillinger was a top 10 pick who's been a career 3rd line defensive center with some offense and the best faceoff guy in the league. He had to adjust.

When is Tamby going to adjust because you can't score consistently in the nhl if you never get within 25' of the net.
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Islander4cups,Dec 8 2008
08:29 PM
bringbackziggy,Dec 8 2008
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You guys always talk about how a player needs to earn his oppotunities and earn his ice time and earn a call up.  Well Tambellini earned his shot.  But because its Tambellini you hypocrites dont wanna give him a shot.  No matter what anyone ever says you will never have never had an open mind toward him because he didnt come up in his LIMITED opportunities previously and produce like he was f#@king Ovechkin.  You all threw him under the bus before giving him an opportunity and never even wanted him to succeed.

What are you talking about? He was given a shot. As you mentioned, he's now played 100+ career nhl games.

His career nhl stats...

NHL TOTALS 102 games 4g 15a 19pts -11

How is 102 nhl games "not a shot"?

His Islander numbers...
2005-2006 Islanders 21games 1g 3a 4pts 2
2006-2007 Islanders 23games 2g 7a 9pts 6
2007-2008 Islanders 31games 1g 3a 4pts -9
2008-2009 Islanders 23games 0g 2a 2pts -9



BILLY CARROL WAS MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN THIS!!!!!!!!


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I4C, you didn't get the memo? For Bambi's shot in the NHL to be legit, it has to be a 103 game minimum. If Bambi didn't go down before his 103rd game, he was going to score like the dickens!

Bambi needs to find a new game role, or go back to the AHL for good. Except the Oilers (because his father works for them) I don't see any team wanting Bambi.

Hilbert is another good example of an AHL phenom that came to the NHL, and had to change his game role into the two-way forward that we see today.
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I4C, you didn't get the memo? For Bambi's shot in the NHL to be legit, it has to be a 103 game minimum. If Bambi didn't go down before his 103rd game, he was going to score like the dickens!

Bambi needs to find a new game role, or go back to the AHL for good. Except the Oilers (because his father works for them) I don't see any team wanting Bambi.

Hilbert is another good example of an AHL phenom that came to the NHL, and had to change his game role into the two-way forward that we see today.

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I agree with I4C here.

Also even if his numbers were BAD even if he had 3 goals and 5 assists. (HALF THE AMOUNT of goals as Hilbert) You can say okay.

The fact that he doesn't even average a goal once ever 20 games, just shows he isn't even CLOSE. BY DEFAULT that should happen. I mean Campoli has had a multi-goal game. Park has multiple SH goals.

HILBERT is a guy that people kill and he has SIX goals 13 points. THAT is just his Offensive SIDE. A SIDE HE ISN'T EVEN HERE FOR. He is our second best PK forward. He is one of our best fore-checkers. He doesn't take stupid penalties etc. And he could have a 40-50 point season with 20 goals, WHO would have thought that.

OH by the way here is my biggest thing with this fing kid... HE IS 24 YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bailey and Okposo and these guys are 19, they can have a 100 games under their belt and not buy beer yet.

1.1 SOG over 12:30 of ice time and two points is pretty scary. Even more when a guy who didn't make the roster, for whatever reasons, a guy that the coaching staff has got on, for not doing things right, blah blah blah.... could have THREE scoring chances in game one, a post, multiple hits.
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totallypucked,Dec 8 2008
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bringbackziggy,Dec 8 2008
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You guys always talk about how a player needs to earn his oppotunities and earn his ice time and earn a call up.  Well Tambellini earned his shot.  But because its Tambellini you hypocrites dont wanna give him a shot.  No matter what anyone ever says you will never have never had an open mind toward him because he didnt come up in his LIMITED opportunities previously and produce like he was f#@king Ovechkin.  You all threw him under the bus before giving him an opportunity and never even wanted him to succeed.

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So should everyone behave like the the 13-year-olds in 50-year-old bodies who put up things like the "Tambellini Watch" and "The Official Remove Jeff Tambellini Thread" and say things like "Tambellini is the reason Comeau went down to Bridgeport?"

I come to this site to talk good Islanders hockey, and for the last two months or so, this entire board has been inundated with complaining and whining about Jeff Tambellini. People act like this guy is Sean Avery or Kirk Muller, but he is a struggling kid that is trying to find his game in the NHL. Who knows if he will find it, but for people to simply whine about him getting the opportunity is pathetic, especially on a shitty team with essentially zero hopes at a playoff spot. There are a ton of problems on this team, but people act like Tambellini is the cause of it all. So maybe one of these days, I can visit this site and not have to see some Tambellini bashing thread sitting at the top of it.

Maybe now that he is gone it will stop.
Fans want their team to be the best it can be, and then some. When management turns a blind eye or has rose colored glasses on when it comes to personnel, it is our nature as fans to complain and wish they would realize what we already knew. If the anti-Tambellini posts have gotten worse in their tone, blame Garth for waiting longer than he should have to correct a mistake he made in the off-season.
I would have been as critical of the deal Snow gave Nielsen, but I believe it is just one year. I hope he is able to overcome his injury and return, he was showing that he deserves to be here.
Prior to the draft, I believe Comeau was our second highest rated prospect behind KO. He was in front of Franz and Tamby. It is not like he was an overrated fan favorite, he was/is one of the few NHL caliber "kids" in our system.
I figure Snow must read what is here, or at least have someone read it for him. The HOF board has a similar thread, also always on page one. I was just being one of the wise guys in the back of the class who was pointing out the obvious so eventually the lame brain teacher would notice it too. Nothing personal against Tamby, just don't appreciate his hockey skills.
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Nielsen is signed to 4 years.
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and the cold reality sucks ~its not easy being an :isles: fan this season...

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and the cold reality sucks ~its not easy being an :isles: fan this season...

This season? You can pretty much say that for the better part of the last 25 years.
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No offense taken I4C, nor is any taken with TP or any of you guys.
That's what this board is about.
Healthy discussion, disagreements, agreements, laughing, whining etc.

One day, I hope we're all celebrating.

But I'm still right ya bastids.
I've put up with alot of negativity on here so I expect you guys to put up with mine.

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I just want to say, I'm glad Comeau was ok and came back yesterday.
Looked like his hand was hanging and my biggest fear was a broken wrist.

Lastly, Tambellini, Bambi or whatever you want to call him, has been given every opportunity possible (in our opinion). No one is saying he should be wiped off the face of the earth.
We are just fed up with people making excuses after excuse after excuse for the guy
when all we wanted was him to succeed and after doing NOTHING and getting the same people preaching patience when we saw all we could stomach...we have no choice but to laugh at him, the org and his defenders.

Deal with it.
If boy wonder ever comes up and becomes a formidable NHLer, I'll be the first to stand and cheer and support the bastid. But I'll be a mean SOB till then in your eyes.



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stevedepot,Dec 9 2008
10:48 AM
No offense taken I4C, nor is any taken with TP or any of you guys.
That's what this board is about.
Healthy discussion, disagreements, agreements, laughing, whining etc.

One day, I hope we're all celebrating.

But I'm still right ya bastids.
I've put up with alot of negativity on here so I expect you guys to put up with mine.

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:yea:  :bag:

I just want to say, I'm glad Comeau was ok and came back yesterday.
Looked like his hand was hanging and my biggest fear was a broken wrist.

Lastly, Tambellini, Bambi or whatever you want to call him, has been given every opportunity possible (in our opinion). No one is saying he should be wiped off the face of the earth.
We are just fed up with people making excuses after excuse after excuse for the guy
when all we wanted was him to succeed and after doing NOTHING and getting the same people preaching patience when we saw all we could stomach...we have no choice but to laugh at him, the org and his defenders.

Deal with it.
If boy wonder ever comes up and becomes a formidable NHLer, I'll be the first to stand and cheer and support the bastid. But I'll be a mean SOB till then in your eyes.



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Tambellini, Bambi or whatever you want to call him, has been given every opportunity possible (in our opinion). No one is saying he should be wiped off the face of the earth.


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