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| What's worse than a bad team? | |
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| bumpkin | Dec 10 2008, 03:00 AM Post #41 |
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The second worst team in the league, but with a rookie goaltender who was supposed to carry DP's bag for him. If DP backstopped us to this record, that might have been suspected. But at times the team shows more than that, which is why I still watch them. We have beaten some good teams, despite our 3rd period collapses. Factor those out and you have a .500 team. If someone had told you after the first game what was going to happen with DP, what record would you have guessed at this point, 6-20? |
| Where in the World is Sebastian Collberg? | |
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| LEDZEP | Dec 10 2008, 03:53 AM Post #42 |
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The Best That Ever Skated 80-81-82-83
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DP not that good
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Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do... ![]() What puckhead says is Islander law Come in with the milk "A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets rough." Ronald Reagan | |
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| LEDZEP | Dec 10 2008, 04:10 AM Post #43 |
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The Best That Ever Skated 80-81-82-83
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It would not matter he would break down after 3 games 6-20 if he was in net
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Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do... ![]() What puckhead says is Islander law Come in with the milk "A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets rough." Ronald Reagan | |
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| rifleman22 | Dec 10 2008, 08:29 AM Post #44 |
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All Star
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A reality check: Let's take a look at a few things, not as excuses, but as reasons for where we are. First, Nolan was fired on July 14. Scott Gordon was hired on August 12. Camp started on or about September 19. What I'm saying here is Gordon inherited last year's team, minus Simon, Fedetenko, Satan and Dubie; plus Streit and Weight. He then proceeded with his "system". I have to say, I understand and like the system, but he is trying to implement it with what we have, not with what he would deem players that fit. Next, here is our injury list for this season, so far. It lists the orignal (if applicable) date and the retro date for IR if applicable. 12/07/2008 Kyle Okposo Day-to-day Sprained right wrist 11/26/2008 Bruno Gervais Injured Reserve Leg 11/23/2008 Frans Nielsen Day-to-day Multiple leg injuries 11/22/2008 Frans Nielsen Injured Reserve Multiple leg injuries 11/21/2008 Kyle Okposo Injured Reserve Arm 11/11/2008 Mike Comrie Injured Reserve Hip 11/08/2008 Nate Thompson Injured Reserve Strained groin 11/03/2008 Sean Bergenheim Day-to-day Illness 10/27/2008 Freddy Meyer Injured Reserve Sports hernia 10/27/2008 Rick DiPietro Day-to-day Undisclosed lower body injury 10/27/2008 Rick DiPietro Injured Reserve Knee surgery 10/27/2008 Freddy Meyer Injured Reserve Sports hernia 10/24/2008 Brendan Witt Injured Reserve Knee 10/12/2008 Radek Martinek Injured Reserve Right shoulder 10/10/2008 Josh Bailey Injured Reserve Lower body injury 10/05/2008 Andy Sutton Injured Reserve Hand surgery 09/30/2008 Chris Campoli Injured Reserve Shoulder 09/20/2008 Mike Sillinger Injured Reserve Hip surgery My point? Let's have a real perspective of where we are and where we can possibly end up. I believe we've been pretty damn good during some stretches. Pretty damn bad during others, including now. I love what I've seen from the young guns and I am THRILLED that Comeau is being given the opportunity to perform. We're dealing with a ton of injuries. The future is bright. The reality of the present is we'll do the best we can. Let's Go Islanders! |
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THE RIFLE Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. | |
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| stevedepot | Dec 10 2008, 09:40 AM Post #45 |
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sorry, I should check my posts before posting them so no ones feelings are hurt. feel better dude? As for me, I take note when a guy like Hilbert, at the end of his lines shift takes a weak shot on goal, pressures the goalie to gain a faceoff so his line can get off the ice in the 2nd period when the bench is a longer skate away. Fundamentals. maybe that's just one small example of why coaches love him? Who knows. On a great team, of COURSE he'd find a niche on the 3rd/4th line "where he belong" and wouldn't be anywhere near the top line or PP time. But I ask you this, how the heck do you know that for sure? More key players, making the team better, wouldn't that make Hilbert less dependable and perhaps better if surrounded by more established talent that the opposition has to key on? hmmm? I still think some fans (maybe not you) just see him stick handle, not make the fancy 1-on-1 moves that Palffy, Turgeon made way back when and ask...why is this trash getting icetime? Tambellini scores goals in the AHL give him a chance, we have other prospects I saw in the Hockey News who had sick numbers in juniors, let them play, get rid of Hilbert, etc. He's dependable and has great work habits, and until we have guys come up with the same limited icetime, (LIKE the Andy Hilbert who you and everyone else that doesn't get his value berate), he's what a coach like Gordon, like Nolan, like Mike Sullivan in Boston, like Trent Yawney in Chicago and Therrian in Pitt loved to and used in all aspects of the game. I understand the argument of "let others get icetime, see what happens" and blablabla. Sorry to state it this way, but, I know my hockey. Deal with it. Take my word for it. You'll feel better. Have a great holiday season.
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| Ozzie307 | Dec 10 2008, 10:19 AM Post #46 |
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Here's the funny part in this whole thing. Read your last paragraph. Here's my original post: I think we're seeing the Bates scenario with Hilbert. Guy gets way too much ice time for a fourth liner. His lack of offensive skill is magnified with the extra minutes. He really needs to be a fourth line/penalty killer. Hopefully, if Comeau is healthy, he'll get some of Hilbert's minutes. Seriously, the guy is a fourth liner on a good team, at best. And that's stretching it a bit Prety similar, right? I think my original post has been forgotten because somehow it's turned into that I want Hilbert shot and hanged in a public square. In someone else's eyes, that post made me a bad fan with no concept of hockey so my subsequent posts have responded to that. My point with the Thompson thing is more of a 4th line type player fit. I admit that Hilbert does all the little things well. Based on some people's comments, they feel like he's a gifted defensive player. That's fine, I don't see that. People disagree about players all the time. It's OK. In terms of skills, I see Hilbert as a reliable defensive player and that's it. Thompson may not be as reliable as hilbert but he'll provided some toughness and physical play that hilbert cannot, which is suited for a 4th type player. Especially, since Thompson can play center and is pretty good on draws. |
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| stevedepot | Dec 10 2008, 10:27 AM Post #47 |
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Ozzie, my first post was generalizing about the anti-Hilbert sentiment. I'm sorry you took it personally. You make great points but I disagree with you. Thompson is a center, Andy can play all 3 forward positions. I see Hilbert as a small piece of the solution here over the next 3 years as he'll be entering his prime while Thompson is a great hard nosed kid who i'd love to see centering our 4th line because of his grit. |
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| Ozzie307 | Dec 10 2008, 10:29 AM Post #48 |
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Steve, you can post what you want to post but you have to be prepared for the consequences. I easily could have started a war when you start making it personal by saying I'm a bad fan. That's not debating an issue. It's attacking my support of the team. Probably not the best thing to say to someone on a board that's full of die-hards. To be honest, I'm tired of this conversation at this point. |
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| stevedepot | Dec 10 2008, 10:38 AM Post #49 |
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ozzie, again, sorry you took it personally. It wasn't directed at you or anyone specific. If anyone needs me I'll be in timeout.
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| 4CUPZ | Dec 10 2008, 11:58 AM Post #50 |
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HEAD OF SECURITY
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NOBODY PUTS STEVEDEPOT IN THE CORNER
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| OlTimeHockey | Dec 10 2008, 03:50 PM Post #51 |
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Dirty Dancing quote. -1 |
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| 4CUPZ | Dec 10 2008, 04:08 PM Post #52 |
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HEAD OF SECURITY
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I HAVE A QUOTE THATS A +10 BUT I'M SAVING IT FOR A RAINY DAY
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