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Defense makeover; Who stay's, who goes
Topic Started: Dec 18 2008, 12:57 PM (969 Views)
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7th Woman,Dec 19 2008
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nyifancentral,Dec 19 2008
01:35 PM
You like Jason Blake? For months we read nothing about how much he loved the Islanders and wanted to stay until his hat-trick after the trade deadline where he stood at center ice and told everyone he wanted to stay.

Then Newsday finally reported it

For months all we got was Blake wanted out prior to that from Mr Logan.

Nope. Not true. For months Jason said he wanted an ANSWER and to where he was going. Not that he wanted OUT. They wouldn't talk to him or his agent about his contract. He went to Greg to plead his case in the paper. Greg asked him "Are you SURE you want to do this?" he said YES.

Jason wanted to know where he and his family and baby on the way would be living for the next five years. Greg did not make up a story that Blake wanted to leave. Blake told him "If they don't want me here, then I'll leave."

Sad part was, they didn't want him as much as he wanted them. They still don't... no matter how much I beg, bribe or plead.

Dee...

Out of curiosity, what is it about Jason Blake that has cast you as such a loyal fan of his? I'm not going to dispute points or make any about him because I think with most guys you can state positives and negatives. I'm just curious because you have been very loyal to him (not judging on whether he deserves it). Is it on ice stuff or off ice stuff or something else? I know you have LEVELS of access we don't, so I'm curious.

And if I've missed this on previous posts/blogs I apologize.
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JB wanted to be here. I even had a thank you jason blake blog setup for awhile. That off season we didn't handle anything right.
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Islander4cups,Dec 19 2008
01:23 PM


1- What exactly is our "defensive system" in our own end? I've not seen or heard anything about the philosophy other than "overspeed" which to me is more about the forecheck and neutral ice and in the o-zone and not so detailed in our own.

:yes: :yes: :yes:

I think our "d-system" is "oh crap we didn't score..and now there are 2 opposing forwards behind our d" :rotflmao:
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stevedepot,Dec 19 2008
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nyifancentral,Dec 19 2008
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Webb20,Dec 19 2008
10:43 AM
Or maybe he's just telling us the news the Islanders dont want us to hear.

Come on Webb20, you think the Knicks get the pounding the Islanders have in Newsday or Hahn goes to everyone uphappy and gets them to comment about the coach?

All we got from the teams house paper was the staff running down Marbury and not a word about Dolan who would not buy out a player. As the new puppet gm and coach kept saying something different.

Meanwhile Danilo Galinari after the spam campaign on their top pick has been a joke
got a lot more favorable treatment than Bailey got.

You really think the Knicks deserve better than the Islanders considering the records since 2001 from Newsday?

While I'm not a BBall fan, that's a good point.
But then again, Newsday was highly critical during that whole Isiah Thomas bashfest.

is it Logan and Hahn that you don't like or Newsday in general?

:dontknow:

Steve, go look at the Newsday coverage after the latest Knick disaster against Milwaukee.

Baumbach went after Marbury, not Dolan for being too cheap to buy him out.
Hahn went after Curry, not management.

With Newsday and the Islanders they blast management, with the Knicks they hammer the individual player and not their current boss in Dolan to run down the unpopular players with the public.
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^ The Knicks attendance still different.

I got seats for the game (Decent, not great, but def not bad) 315 A for $14 a ticket. I mean the demand is an all time-low. I don't know what will happen.

THEY ARE GIVING SEASON TICKETS AWAY FOR $40, for real. A $1 a game to sit up in that section.
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Tinman31,Dec 20 2008
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^ The Knicks attendance still different.

I got seats for the game (Decent, not great, but def not bad) 315 A for $14 a ticket. I mean the demand is an all time-low. I don't know what will happen.

THEY ARE GIVING SEASON TICKETS AWAY FOR $40, for real. A $1 a game to sit up in that section.

Msg attendance is a lot of announced sellouts for knick or Ranger games despite empty and available seats.
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nyifancentral,Dec 20 2008
10:56 AM

Msg attendance is a lot of announced sellouts for knick or Ranger games despite empty and available seats.

No different than the NVMC, where the Isles always announce crowds thousands over what's actually there.

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If I may do my best to add some info and remind everyone that there are only 10 days left to vote for the 2008 NYI Blog Award.

In a bit of defense for Mr Logan, he does travel with the team and I think this costs him somewhat on the amount of blogging he does. He also has a family and since blogging can easily become a 24/7 task, he could just prefer to make a job out of it. We need him as well as Botta and all of the other less privileged bloggers out there. Botta and Logan are the tip of the iceberg for Isles blogging based on the access they have and also their experience.

They break stories, and the rest of the bloggers comment on them, the the drama, and the games. If there is any sensationalism going on with Greg Logan and if Botta's blog is changing that then great. These guys should be keeping each other honest.

When will everyone see that the newspaper journalists are just bloggers with better access?
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Dragoneye: You're half right, but I know where you're going.

The difference between journalist and bloggers are editors, space confines and paychecks.

Please note: 60% of the time, a journalist will not write their own headlines or chose their own photos. Journalists have deadlines that must be adhered to, no matter what. They are also given a number of words they need to submit.

Bloggers have no rules, no constraints and no one putting words on their work. They have deadlines of their own doing and no one elses.

Oh... and as an FYI... Mr. Logan is taking a few days off for the holiday.
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That's a good point about the journalist possible being "restricted".

I have a friend that has taken a lot of photos of a phenomena in Taiwan called betelnut girls. He has done an excellent job on it and tried to get National Geographic to fund a documentary. They wouldn't do it because it didn't have a sad story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJWxs6eRNvY

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Anyhow, bringing it back a bit, If Newsday/Logan are doing as some say and manipulating the stories for maximum pain value, then f them. Don't read the dredge. I don't. I have bought one paper since I have been back and that was enough for me. I still think we need Logan and more full time reporters, but the team needs to get to the next level (consistent playoffs, minimum dark horse shot at the cup).
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Oh, and to anyone that will be at the game tomorrow, I will be there with my wife and it will be her first game ever. She has miraculously, through the mess of this season, become an Isles fan (along with my two year old who loves the Let's Go Islanders chant and a few others). I only hope that there is a good fight in the game, as the fighting gets her riled up and cheering more than anything. I will go by the blog box likely between periods 1 and 2. I'll be there early for warmups taking photos and videos rink side near where CJ and Stan do their pre game. I'll be wearing a Mets cap. Call me if you'd like to meet. It will be nice to put some faces to the names here (or will it! hahah)

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7th Woman,Dec 22 2008
10:27 PM
Dragoneye: You're half right, but I know where you're going.

The difference between journalist and bloggers are editors, space confines and paychecks.

Please note: 60% of the time, a journalist will not write their own headlines or chose their own photos. Journalists have deadlines that must be adhered to, no matter what. They are also given a number of words they need to submit.

Bloggers have no rules, no constraints and no one putting words on their work. They have deadlines of their own doing and no one elses.

Oh... and as an FYI... Mr. Logan is taking a few days off for the holiday.

but Dee... more often than not bloggers also have no talent and an axe to grind without any scrupples, class, standards or sense of decorum.

This of course excludes present company because I don't think those define you at all, but looking at the blogs across the internet, I'd say 75% of the ones I've come across not done by "professional" writers are hacks with no taste, clue or any idea of how to write.

While the internet does help with the "democratization" of thought, keep in mind that all it provides is equal access to opportunity; it does not create equal talent. Just last week my AP history class was having a debate about whether it is a good thing to have everyone vote. One kid said that "the spread of democracy amongst all classes, races and genders is great, but it also means Jerry Springer fans get to vote, too." Same with blogs...anyone can have one regardless of talent.

Now I think there are some very good bloggers out there and I consider you and afew of those connected to this site to be among them, but eventually, when everyone has their own blog, what is the difference between "quality writing" and a message board? For many blogs there is no difference right now.

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I4C, You are right. You know, I'm so used to only dealing with the bloggers that I work with, that I forget that there are those who do use it for their own purpose and just as a form of free-flowing expression.

"Bloggerism: Journalism without pay."I am a frustrated writer. I have always been a writer. I've been writing short stories and plays since I was eight years old. But I wanted to feed myself and actually live outside my mother's home. So I went to secretarial school instead of college and have never been out of work since.

For me, writing is like painting or playing an instrument. It's an extension of my personality. I really do forget there are "bloggers" of every subject that don't think the way I do. For so many blogs are basically "Postcards from the Edge."

And BTW.... Thanks so much for the compliments. I do appreciate them.

wait... did I have a point??? Crap... I forgot! :P
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7th Woman,Dec 22 2008
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Dragoneye:  You're half right, but I know where you're going.

The difference between journalist and bloggers are editors, space confines and paychecks.

Please note:  60% of the time, a journalist will not write their own headlines or chose their own photos.  Journalists have deadlines that must be adhered to, no matter what.  They are also given a number of words they need to submit.

Bloggers have no rules, no constraints and no one putting words on their work.  They have deadlines of their own doing and no one elses.

Oh... and as an FYI... Mr. Logan is taking a few days off for the holiday.

but Dee... more often than not bloggers also have no talent and an axe to grind without any scrupples, class, standards or sense of decorum.

This of course excludes present company because I don't think those define you at all, but looking at the blogs across the internet, I'd say 75% of the ones I've come across not done by "professional" writers are hacks with no taste, clue or any idea of how to write.

While the internet does help with the "democratization" of thought, keep in mind that all it provides is equal access to opportunity; it does not create equal talent. Just last week my AP history class was having a debate about whether it is a good thing to have everyone vote. One kid said that "the spread of democracy amongst all classes, races and genders is great, but it also means Jerry Springer fans get to vote, too." Same with blogs...anyone can have one regardless of talent.

Now I think there are some very good bloggers out there and I consider you and afew of those connected to this site to be among them, but eventually, when everyone has their own blog, what is the difference between "quality writing" and a message board? For many blogs there is no difference right now.

jmho.

Very nice post Islander4cups.

I have been blogging for a long time and to be honest, the blogs that are classless, scrupleless, axe-grinding, standardless blogs with no sense of decorum just don't get read unless they speak to a large audience. Anyone can have a vote, but unlike voting not everyone is affected by it or forced to go to it.

There are ways to see if the site is "popular" even before you read a word of a site. Try adding the SEO quake addon for Firefox. You can see metrics like how many other sites link to them in Yahoo, what the PageRank is in Google, and what their ranking is in Alexa. There are several other things you can see as well. If the site has a PR of 3 or 4 (out of 10) it is doing well and has a small following. If it is a 5 or higher (not very likely but possible) it is an authority on the subject. The Islanders main website is a PR 6 and Greg Logan's Newsday blog is a 5 if that tells you anything.

One thing about blogging as well, if people do it a lot they are bound to improve just like anything else, and they are likely blogging about something they are passionate about.

The difference between a blog and message board are many as far as control goes, ie layout, rules, etc... It is also a way to carve your own niche in a topic you love. It's very true the talent may not always be there and in some cases but your always free top browse.
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