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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 19 2008, 10:51 PM (1,568 Views) | |
| Snowday | Dec 20 2008, 02:02 PM Post #41 |
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It's all a cop out with the whole "overspeed", "youth movement". It's to give the fans hope where no hope is or no hope can be found. Gordon is completely clueless, maybe even more so than Garth and Wang. It's just one big mess again. We have 2 or 3 decent prospects in Okposo, Nielsen and Bailey that may never amount to anything playing with nobodies under a coach who has no clue what he is doing in an organization/team ran by two clowns. With Nolan he played our best prospects who could contribute (Okposo, Comeau, Nielsen) and told the rest to take a hike. Many fans were like we want to see Tambellini and others and a full youth movement. Now we know why Nolan wasn't about filling a roster with shitty prospects. He liked his hard working vets mixed in with some talented kids and he usually got results on a nightly basis. I've seen more from Okposo and Comeau in their handful of games last year than both combined for what they've done this year. /vent |
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| Craving_the_Cup_Since_1992 | Dec 20 2008, 02:16 PM Post #42 |
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Yeah, Nolan's hardworking vets panned out wonderfully. Fourteen straight scoring 2 goals or less. What happened when the vets all went down with injury? Vasicek, and Fedotanko worked well? They'd score, and disappear for 20 games. With all this revisionist Nolan history, who drank the koolaid? If Wang goes, the Islanders go. I'd take Wang over losing my favorite team. I've said this before to people, the Islander move, and I will stop watching the NHL. And because I am such a special person, of course this can never happen.
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| 4CUPZ | Dec 20 2008, 02:16 PM Post #43 |
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TERRIBLE WOULD BE A f#@kING IMPROVEMENT OVER THIS GARBAGE |
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| Webb20 | Dec 20 2008, 02:37 PM Post #44 |
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Post of the day.
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I sold it all, retired and moved to Fabulous Las Vegas! "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Ben Franklin "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."-Ronald Reagan | |
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| viking | Dec 20 2008, 02:49 PM Post #45 |
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are we going to call for Garth head?
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| Snowy | Dec 20 2008, 02:54 PM Post #46 |
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Josh Bailey- Missed 14 games due to injury Kyle Okposo- Missed 13 games due to injury Frans Nielsen- Missed 13 games due to injury Blake Comeau- Missed 26 games due to ???? How would you like improvement from the young guys when they've all missed double digit games and we're only 32 games in??? Believe me, it bothers me that Josh Bailey doesn't have a goal yet. It bothers me that KO hasn't been more of a factor offensively. But these guys are both 19 years old and in their first NHL season, and being honest they don't have the luxury of playing with great players who can create opportunities for them. I mean Jesus, their PP linemate is Andy Hilbert. |
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| WeSuckAgain | Dec 20 2008, 03:48 PM Post #47 |
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Ok heres my idea. Im a huge Islander fan however lets face it WE SUCK. we are thee WORST, MOST PATHEITC TEAM IN THE WHOLE NHL. They are an embarissment and HUGE discrace. Why am I still a fan? I dont really know I guess im one of the not so smart people who actually think they can win a game. In fact they are so bad again this season that I watch the games too see how many times they can get scored on. I even hope for double digits and it becomes funny. I think Wang or w.e his name is wang wong dont matter should sell the team and give it to someone who will actually get decent players and players who are not past their prime. They should idolize the Rangers!
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| 4CUPZ | Dec 20 2008, 03:55 PM Post #48 |
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5...4...3...2...1..... IGNITION WELCOME ABOARD BUT 1ST RULE NEVER NEVER NEVER POST A POSITIVE WITH THE WORD RANGERS ATTACHED TO SAME SENTENCE |
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| LEDZEP | Dec 20 2008, 04:38 PM Post #49 |
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Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do... ![]() What puckhead says is Islander law Come in with the milk "A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets rough." Ronald Reagan | |
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| Mulefan | Dec 20 2008, 04:40 PM Post #50 |
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And why should Snow be able to stay and choose the next coach when he was the one who chose Gordon??? Gordon might be in over his head, but so is Snow. Remember the old Don Maloney song? Well I can see a Garth Snow song in the near future. |
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| Snowday | Dec 20 2008, 04:48 PM Post #51 |
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Nolan bought those players in or Garth? And it's not like either had a big list to choose from. Nolan got more out of Kozlov, Vasicek ect..than they did elsewhere in years prior. I'm not saying Nolan is the best coach and we couldn't do better, but Gordon so far looks like a big downgrade. |
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| Craving_the_Cup_Since_1992 | Dec 20 2008, 06:23 PM Post #52 |
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Nolan didn't bring anyone in, just like Gordon didn't. Garth tried to accommodate Nolan, and we got the 5th round pick. Gordon may or may not be a downgrade, but let's not pretend that we have to move backwards to seasons that also sucked, or were close to sucking. We should idolize the rangers? You call yourself an Islander fan? Go slob Dolan's hockey stick. |
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| Snowy | Dec 20 2008, 06:57 PM Post #53 |
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Idolize the Rangers? Are you on drugs??? What about the Rangers should they idolize??? They have $21 million tied up in two 2nd line centers and a goalie. They have a few good young players, but none of them close to being great. They are a team that is great in shootouts both offensively and in goal. They'd take every single game into a shootout if they could, and that's exactly how they play. Unfortunately for them, no shootout in the playoffs. They are capped out. Mats Sundin wanted to come to NY and they couldn't free up any room to do so. Their defense is average at best, and that's being polite. They are exactly the way that you DON'T want to build a franchise. They are a 4 or 5 seed every year that at best will make the 3rd round and never win a championship. If that's what you want then fine, but I'm happy as hell you're not the GM. |
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| Islander4cups | Dec 20 2008, 07:06 PM Post #54 |
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The Penguins do not, and did not last year, play a trap or any version of it. |
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| Islander4cups | Dec 20 2008, 07:09 PM Post #55 |
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How many head coaches has Lou Lamorello gone through in NJ in his tenure? How many have the Avs gone through in Colorado? Should Detroit have lost their gm because they hired Lewis to replace Bowman? Was MM a "visionary" because he originally saw cup potential in Lavvy? |
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| Snowday | Dec 20 2008, 09:05 PM Post #56 |
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You said NOLANS vets didn't pan out, making it sound you thought he bought them in. Garth bought them in, and Nolan squeezed as much as possible out of them, plus he got better results out of the youngsters with the limited tim he had with them. It's still too early to completely evaluate Gordon, but like I said, so far Gordon is a far cry from what Nolan did with the same amount of talent/injuries ect.. I don;t know what you're talking about with the Rangers comment. |
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| Snowday | Dec 20 2008, 09:09 PM Post #57 |
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You're comparing Colorado, NJ and Detroit (all teams that have won numerous Cups in the last decade+) to the Islanders. I understand your point, but let's be real here. |
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| LEDZEP | Dec 20 2008, 09:40 PM Post #58 |
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It's not the "system" ================= What system
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Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do... ![]() What puckhead says is Islander law Come in with the milk "A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets rough." Ronald Reagan | |
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| Overspeed | Dec 20 2008, 11:19 PM Post #59 |
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Overspeed = Overlose = the system by which the team loses over and over and over again Just like the Newsday back cover said today: SYSTEM FAILURE Our youth played better last year under Nolan, especially KO and Comeau. At least the team didnt give up on Nolan like this team has seemed to quit on Gordon. This is why we need a real nhl GM and real NHL Coach before the Isles can actually get any sort of process underway. Not only dont the players buy this supposed system, Gordon has refused to adjust his strategy based on the situation of each game. If you dont believe me just look at the quotes coming out of the players themselves. With Wang, Snow and Gordon this team will soon be called the Las Vegas Dicelanders and call the Thomas & Mack Center their home. |
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| Islander4cups | Dec 20 2008, 11:50 PM Post #60 |
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No. You apparently don't. My point was those GM's did not enjoy immediate success... Look at those teams when those GM's came in. Did they have immediate success? These were Lou's first coaching hires in NJ Schonfield 88-89 John Cuniff 89-91 Tom McVie91-92 Herb Brooks 92-93 and then Jacques Lemaire 93-98 Those first 4 coaches really lit it up for the Devils didn't they. Ken Holland has been gm of Detroit since 97. He walked into a team loaded with talent (and yes, he had a hand in building it since he was their director of Am scouting for 7 years prior to becoming GM). But how did his hires fair? 2003-05- Dave Lewis 05-now Mike Babcock NOt every first hire is successful. As I recall, it took Torrey a third hire to get it right. Nordique/Av's GM Pierre Lacrouix 94-06 1- Benefitted from a Hershel Walker deal in the Eric Lindros deal. Look at who Philly gave him. 2- His hires as GM Mark Crawford Bob Hartley tony Granato Joel Quenville (and the new GM has Granato coaching again) While Crawford and Hartley earned cups, they came into teams LOADED with talent and it didn't hurt Crawford that Montreal dumped Roy in their lap. Granato and Quenville didn't come close and Crawford and Hartley have had ZERO success in their later hires. |
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