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Without DiPietro...
Topic Started: Dec 24 2008, 01:02 PM (1,021 Views)
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why oh why doesn't Yan Danis get more playing time?? give the man a chance give joey a rest...
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Okay, Rick Dipietro, without a doubt in my mind, is an ELITE goalie in the NHL. No question. When healthy, DP is a top 6 goalie.

When looking at DP, he has almost everything you could possibly want in a goaltender. He has almost unparelled reflexes, a bear-trap for a glove hand, and is among the most athletic goalies in the NHL. On top of all that, he has a load of confidence (maybe an understatement). He wants to be there with a minute left in OT. Rick always wants to be the man, which is exactly what I like in a goalie.

Last year, he held a very lack-luster team as a playoff contender for 50 games of the season. That same team, frankly, was not much more talented than the one we have now, if at all. I think we can all agree that Joey Mac has proven himself as a solid goaltender, and we're in last place. With an elite goaltender, such as DP, we may be in the same position as we were around this time last year.

The only thing that holds back Ricky is injuries. As we all know, he has proven to be, well, pretty darn flimsy. Multiple injuries in the past few years have stunted his growth as a goalie. I do not believe that his skills need too much improving, but more the mental side of his game. That kind of experience comes only with playing in real game situations, which he has been deprived from due to his laundry list of injuries.

In order for this team to move foward, we have to play the rest of the year with Rick smart. Give him split time with Joey Mac. By doing this, we can keep him sharp, while still keeping an eye on his health. Another plus in doing this is that, well, realistically we won't win as many games. If we keep it up (last place :thumbsup: ), we can almost gaurantee Tavares or Hedman, both players whom we can honestly build a franchise around. Give DP more games next year, but make sure to give him brakes, and give Big Mac a solid amount of games.

I think we all know that Rick can be an elite goalie in the NHL. But frankly, he isn't Marty Brodeur. He can't play 70 games a year, carrying a team the whole way. What Rick can do is give us an honest chance of winning every game he plays. And by surrounding him by more talented team-mates than he has had, he can prove himself to be the goalie we all saw for the first half of last year.

Ricky + Talented Team-mates = :cup:
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My favorite part of Rick is what you brought up "Thats Nice".... He wants to play and win. I don't mean the I want to play every game play, he wants to play the best team and such.

Snowman and I used to discuss how much he raised his game against the Rangers or Devils. I remember Snowman (John real name ha) saying before the Vancouver game he will be amped up and he did play real well (Shootout loss, he made a ton of saves). I saw it as a double-edge sword though, it would get to me that he couldn't maintain that effort, energy etc. against the other teams.
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Without DiPietro...Isles can move forward :thumbsup:

That may be true Zep. But the team can also move forward with him. It all depends on how it is done, despite which path is chosen.
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Joey Mac bears as much blame for this slide as the coach, and his teammates. Joey Mac has some of the worst rebound control. Blame the D all you want, but it isn't the D's job to keep that puck from bouncing into sweet spots. The goaltender has to do his part, and direct these shots out of harms way. In the game against Atlanta, Joey gave up a bad goal to Schneider (not re-directed, not screened), and he gave up juicy rebounds. Joey needs a rest. I want DP back because he entertains. Let's continue losing, but scatter in some wins, and let's draft #1.
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Joey Mac bears as much blame for this slide as the coach, and his teammates. Joey Mac has some of the worst rebound control. Blame the D all you want, but it isn't the D's job to keep that puck from bouncing into sweet spots. The goaltender has to do his part, and direct these shots out of harms way. In the game against Atlanta, Joey gave up a bad goal to Schneider (not re-directed, not screened), and he gave up juicy rebounds. Joey needs a rest. I want DP back because he entertains. Let's continue losing, but scatter in some wins, and let's draft #1.

Agreed on all counts. I don't want to hear that Joey isn't to blame for anything but then DP comes back and is blamed for everything. Doesn't work that way.
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Yes I agree, but Rick is supposed to be better and MaC carried the team for a month to a near .500 record. A near .500 record now looks miraculious for this squad. I know it was just one month but it was Malkin, AO and Joey Mac as the three best players in the league, pretty impressive.
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Yes I agree, but Rick is supposed to be better and MaC carried the team for a month to a near .500 record. A near .500 record now looks miraculious for this squad. I know it was just one month but it was Malkin, AO and Joey Mac as the three best players in the league, pretty impressive.

and rick had primarily the same squad in the playoffs at the ASG break last year...considerably more than just 1 month.

This org. has had pretty much the same level of talent skating for it the last 4 seasons...and that ain't much. But Rick got these guys into positions to be in the playoffs more than once because he's that good.
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Yes I agree, but Rick is supposed to be better and MaC carried the team for a month to a near .500 record.  A near .500 record now looks miraculious for this squad.  I know it was just one month but it was Malkin, AO and Joey Mac as the three best players in the league, pretty impressive.

because he's that good.

His resume proofs it.

1. 8 years in NHL = 2 playoff wins
2. All Star team 1 year because every team has to be represented.
3. More hype then Brian Bosworth
4. Dr's best friend

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Tinman31,Dec 25 2008
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Yes I agree, but Rick is supposed to be better and MaC carried the team for a month to a near .500 record.  A near .500 record now looks miraculious for this squad.  I know it was just one month but it was Malkin, AO and Joey Mac as the three best players in the league, pretty impressive.

because he's that good.

His resume proofs it.

1. 8 years in NHL = 2 playoff wins
2. All Star team 1 year because every team has to be represented.
3. More hype then Brian Bosworth
4. Dr's best friend

:santa:

LOL... I see those math skills are as sharp as ever.

8 years in the nhl? REally? This is the 7th season he's played an nhl game and in 00-01 he played less than 20. In 01-02 he was in Bridgeport. In 02-03 he played 10 nhl games. So how does 30 games played = 3 seasons?

Please tell me if you would want this goalie by your standards...
5 nhl seasons
no postseason awards
no all star games
started more than 35 games in only 2 seasons
86 wins in 191 starts in 5 seasons
lifetime 2.95 GAA
15-10 playoff record

Like I keep telling you, and Joey Mac showed it in Nov., this team's problems aren't between the pipes. But you keep your singlemindedness. The universe needs it's constants.
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Yes I agree, but Rick is supposed to be better and MaC carried the team for a month to a near .500 record.  A near .500 record now looks miraculious for this squad.  I know it was just one month but it was Malkin, AO and Joey Mac as the three best players in the league, pretty impressive.

because he's that good.

His resume proofs it.

1. 8 years in NHL = 2 playoff wins
2. All Star team 1 year because every team has to be represented.
3. More hype then Brian Bosworth
4. Dr's best friend

:santa:

The universe needs it's constants.

That's why Mr. 15 year man will keep coming back until.........

stretch ...pop........crack

he yells out and it's not the All Star game

I hurt myself real bad

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Phil the talent on the team a few years ago wasn't great but come on, it isn't comparable to the team now.

Andy Hilbert and Richard Park are first line PP come on. Plus I know in sports you are supposed to fight through injuries but ours are absurd. Also if you took the first 20 games of the season and stopped there you could have said Joey MaC had the team in potential for the playoffs.

A few years ago we had a 40 goal scorer, we had some all-stars, had a younger healthier Witt. Miro had 60 points, Sillinger had 59 points, Kozlov, Yashin was almost a point per game, Poti was real good. We had TEN guys with double-digit goals and six guys over 50 points. Last year we didn't have a single guy to crack 50. Simon was a +17, Martinek a +19.

Was Rick part of it? 100%, but come on that talent level was through the roof compared to this team.... Dubie went 4-0 for that squad, what does that show you about the team?

Bottom line I know 06-07 wasn't great, but not fair to compare the talent level. Guys like Meyer and Tambellini couldn't even dress on the squad.
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Phil the talent on the team a few years ago wasn't great but come on, it isn't comparable to the team now.

Andy Hilbert and Richard Park are first line PP come on. Plus I know in sports you are supposed to fight through injuries but ours are absurd. Also if you took the first 20 games of the season and stopped there you could have said Joey MaC had the team in potential for the playoffs.

A few years ago we had a 40 goal scorer, we had some all-stars, had a younger healthier Witt. Miro had 60 points, Sillinger had 59 points, Kozlov, Yashin was almost a point per game, Poti was real good. We had TEN guys with double-digit goals and six guys over 50 points. Last year we didn't have a single guy to crack 50. Simon was a +17, Martinek a +19.

Was Rick part of it? 100%, but come on that talent level was through the roof compared to this team.... Dubie went 4-0 for that squad, what does that show you about the team?

Bottom line I know 06-07 wasn't great, but not fair to compare the talent level. Guys like Meyer and Tambellini couldn't even dress on the squad.

what in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

When was Kozlov "almost a point per game" player? Yashin never was a point per game player for us.

Jason Blake had ONE season over 30 goals and he had to shoot as soon as he got off the team bus to do it.

That team that lost to Buffalo was a "much more talented team"? Really?

How has the defense changed that much? We no longer have Poti or MAB, but we added Streit and Sutton. Otherwise...same defensemen.

Forwards??? Kozlov (51 pts), Satan (59 pts) and TAnk (33pts), Bates are gone. They did nothing all year and nothing in the playoffs.
Blake had ONE CAREER SEASON and has done nothing since. And never did anything in the playoffs. Sillinger and Trent Hunter had a TERRIBLE first half and were the best fowards the second half. But last I checked, don't we still have those two guys?
I'd argue that Weight, Comrie and Guerin are UPGRADES over Kozlov, Satan and Tank.

So how is our talent "that much worse" than it was going into the Buffalo series? It might be slightly, but not much

BTW...Dubie went 4-0 against three bad teams and a DEvils team that didn't play Brodeur.
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Phil the talent on the team a few years ago wasn't great but come on, it isn't comparable to the team now.

Andy Hilbert and Richard Park are first line PP come on.  Plus I know in sports you are supposed to fight through injuries but ours are absurd.  Also if you took the first 20 games of the season and stopped there you could have said Joey MaC had the team in potential for the playoffs.

A few years ago we had a 40 goal scorer, we had some all-stars, had a younger healthier Witt.  Miro had 60 points, Sillinger had 59 points, Kozlov, Yashin was almost a point per game, Poti was real good.  We had TEN guys with double-digit goals and six guys over 50 points.  Last year we didn't have a single guy to crack 50.  Simon was a +17, Martinek a +19. 

Was Rick part of it?  100%, but come on that talent level was through the roof compared to this team.... Dubie went 4-0 for that squad, what does that show you about the team?

Bottom line I know 06-07 wasn't great, but not fair to compare the talent level.  Guys like Meyer and Tambellini couldn't even dress on the squad.

what in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

Dubie went 4-0

BOTTOM LINE:

4-0 is 4-0 :thumbsup:


Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :rotflmao:


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Phil the talent on the team a few years ago wasn't great but come on, it isn't comparable to the team now.

Andy Hilbert and Richard Park are first line PP come on.  Plus I know in sports you are supposed to fight through injuries but ours are absurd.  Also if you took the first 20 games of the season and stopped there you could have said Joey MaC had the team in potential for the playoffs.

A few years ago we had a 40 goal scorer, we had some all-stars, had a younger healthier Witt.  Miro had 60 points, Sillinger had 59 points, Kozlov, Yashin was almost a point per game, Poti was real good.  We had TEN guys with double-digit goals and six guys over 50 points.  Last year we didn't have a single guy to crack 50.  Simon was a +17, Martinek a +19. 

Was Rick part of it?  100%, but come on that talent level was through the roof compared to this team.... Dubie went 4-0 for that squad, what does that show you about the team?

Bottom line I know 06-07 wasn't great, but not fair to compare the talent level.  Guys like Meyer and Tambellini couldn't even dress on the squad.

what in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

Dubie went 4-0

BOTTOM LINE:

4-0 is 4-0 :thumbsup:


Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :rotflmao:


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Yep Dubie did go 4-0. But better question was, what was Dunham's record that season? You know, the guy that Zep wanted to start over DiPietro and talked about all season long as if he was Jacques Plante.

All season long Zep called for Dunham and when he finally got him, Dunham sh!t the bed and almost blew the season for us. Now years later he talks about Dubie like he's God. Zep, I told you back then I'd never let you live that down and I still won't. Doesn't matter who the backup goalie is, you'll just always be that guy who calls for the backup goalie and be a DP hater. You're blinded by your hatred and it makes you sound silly. :disgraced:
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Phil the talent on the team a few years ago wasn't great but come on, it isn't comparable to the team now.

Andy Hilbert and Richard Park are first line PP come on.  Plus I know in sports you are supposed to fight through injuries but ours are absurd.  Also if you took the first 20 games of the season and stopped there you could have said Joey MaC had the team in potential for the playoffs.

A few years ago we had a 40 goal scorer, we had some all-stars, had a younger healthier Witt.  Miro had 60 points, Sillinger had 59 points, Kozlov, Yashin was almost a point per game, Poti was real good.  We had TEN guys with double-digit goals and six guys over 50 points.  Last year we didn't have a single guy to crack 50.  Simon was a +17, Martinek a +19. 

Was Rick part of it?  100%, but come on that talent level was through the roof compared to this team.... Dubie went 4-0 for that squad, what does that show you about the team?

Bottom line I know 06-07 wasn't great, but not fair to compare the talent level.  Guys like Meyer and Tambellini couldn't even dress on the squad.

what in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

Dubie went 4-0

BOTTOM LINE:

4-0 is 4-0 :thumbsup:


Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :rotflmao:


:santa:

Yep Dubie did go 4-0. But better question was, what was Dunham's record that season? You know, the guy that Zep wanted to start over DiPietro and talked about all season long as if he was Jacques Plante.

All season long Zep called for Dunham and when he finally got him, Dunham sh!t the bed and almost blew the season for us. Now years later he talks about Dubie like he's God. Zep, I told you back then I'd never let you live that down and I still won't. Doesn't matter who the backup goalie is, you'll just always be that guy who calls for the backup goalie and be a DP hater. You're blinded by your hatred and it makes you sound silly. :disgraced:

In reality has ZEP brought anything to table with this board? I literally stopped posting here for a while because I just couldnt take the RANGERS SUCK! posts and the emoticon nonsense mixed in with useless knowledge.

Let the kids mesh, build through the draft, sign free agents that fill stop gaps until we can get the lighthouse built. Snow has said it numerous times. if your not onboard then go root for the Devils like Knicks fans did with the Nets. Its gonna be a rough and bumpy road like the 90's but we got through it and were able to make the playoffs with the likes of Yashin-Peca-Jonsson-Aucoin-Hamrlik etc. etc. The free agents will come but we need an arena and the kids to produce until then.

As for the Dipietro comments, the guy is elite. When he healthy he makes some of the most phenomonal plays a goalie can make. Before Dipietro got the 15 year contract he was the only player on a good islander time that none hockey fans knew. Why? Because they seen his plays on sportscenter. Give this team 2 years and I promise you they will produce. I say throw all the money in the world at Komisarek because were gonna need to get cap minimum next year anyway. Let Sillinger retire and take a job in the organization. I love Witt and Guerin but they look too old out there, talk to the kids see if these guys really do benefit the team and if they do then let them ride it out for a year or two more. Get the team meshing and good things will come. Bailey is going to be a 15 goal 50 assist player once his hands catch up to him. Okposo with more muscle and experience will net you 25 goals. Comeau is the wildcard that I can see developing nicely if we dont trade him. We must not forget Nielsen who is injured right now and showed flashes of brilliance during our little .500 run. These are just some of the kids. We have Stamkos' Sarnia sting linemates in our system as well. We also got Marjamaki and Figren waiting in the wings. As well as Kiril Petrov who can come over and provide something. Dont forget the defense with Dustin Kohn who is supposed to pan into something nice. Add all that with a inevitable Top 5 pick this draft, and a new arena and I promise you the trades and free agents will follow right after. So Led im sorry just shut up its pathethic you spend your Christmas debating why Dipietro is no good. Its no wonder no one has seen your picture or knows anything about you. Patience folks, Patience is all you need, and good things will come. EXAMPLE: THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS...:::END RANT:::

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Phil the talent on the team a few years ago wasn't great but come on, it isn't comparable to the team now.

Andy Hilbert and Richard Park are first line PP come on.  Plus I know in sports you are supposed to fight through injuries but ours are absurd.  Also if you took the first 20 games of the season and stopped there you could have said Joey MaC had the team in potential for the playoffs.

A few years ago we had a 40 goal scorer, we had some all-stars, had a younger healthier Witt.  Miro had 60 points, Sillinger had 59 points, Kozlov, Yashin was almost a point per game, Poti was real good.  We had TEN guys with double-digit goals and six guys over 50 points.  Last year we didn't have a single guy to crack 50.  Simon was a +17, Martinek a +19. 

Was Rick part of it?  100%, but come on that talent level was through the roof compared to this team.... Dubie went 4-0 for that squad, what does that show you about the team?

Bottom line I know 06-07 wasn't great, but not fair to compare the talent level.  Guys like Meyer and Tambellini couldn't even dress on the squad.

what in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

Dubie went 4-0

BOTTOM LINE:

4-0 is 4-0 :thumbsup:


Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :applaud: Joey Joey :rotflmao:


:santa:

Yep Dubie did go 4-0. But better question was, what was Dunham's record that season? You know, the guy that Zep wanted to start over DiPietro and talked about all season long as if he was Jacques Plante.

All season long Zep called for Dunham and when he finally got him, Dunham sh!t the bed and almost blew the season for us. Now years later he talks about Dubie like he's God. Zep, I told you back then I'd never let you live that down and I still won't. Doesn't matter who the backup goalie is, you'll just always be that guy who calls for the backup goalie and be a DP hater. You're blinded by your hatred and it makes you sound silly. :disgraced:

In reality has ZEP brought anything to table with this board? I literally stopped posting here for a while because I just couldnt take the RANGERS SUCK! posts and the emoticon nonsense mixed in with useless knowledge.

Let the kids mesh, build through the draft, sign free agents that fill stop gaps until we can get the lighthouse built. Snow has said it numerous times. if your not onboard then go root for the Devils like Knicks fans did with the Nets. Its gonna be a rough and bumpy road like the 90's but we got through it and were able to make the playoffs with the likes of Yashin-Peca-Jonsson-Aucoin-Hamrlik etc. etc. The free agents will come but we need an arena and the kids to produce until then.

As for the Dipietro comments, the guy is elite. When he healthy he makes some of the most phenomonal plays a goalie can make. Before Dipietro got the 15 year contract he was the only player on a good islander time that none hockey fans knew. Why? Because they seen his plays on sportscenter. Give this team 2 years and I promise you they will produce. I say throw all the money in the world at Komisarek because were gonna need to get cap minimum next year anyway. Let Sillinger retire and take a job in the organization. I love Witt and Guerin but they look too old out there, talk to the kids see if these guys really do benefit the team and if they do then let them ride it out for a year or two more. Get the team meshing and good things will come. Bailey is going to be a 15 goal 50 assist player once his hands catch up to him. Okposo with more muscle and experience will net you 25 goals. Comeau is the wildcard that I can see developing nicely if we dont trade him. We must not forget Nielsen who is injured right now and showed flashes of brilliance during our little .500 run. These are just some of the kids. We have Stamkos' Sarnia sting linemates in our system as well. We also got Marjamaki and Figren waiting in the wings. As well as Kiril Petrov who can come over and provide something. Dont forget the defense with Dustin Kohn who is supposed to pan into something nice. Add all that with a inevitable Top 5 pick this draft, and a new arena and I promise you the trades and free agents will follow right after. So Led im sorry just shut up its pathethic you spend your Christmas debating why Dipietro is no good. Its no wonder no one has seen your picture or knows anything about you. Patience folks, Patience is all you need, and good things will come. EXAMPLE: THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS...:::END RANT:::

PS: I will be around tonight at the game would like to see all you guys again over at Gate 1

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