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| RYAN JANKOWSKI AND ISLANDERS SPLIT; Contract not renewed for draft director | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 7 2010, 02:55 PM (1,228 Views) | |
| smittyrules31 | Jul 7 2010, 04:45 PM Post #21 |
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Repeat a lie frequently enough....
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Agreed. This is an "odd" decision. If there is something more than simply $, I would hope one of the reporters covering this team can shed some insight. Not sure there is though. I spoke with Neil Smith a handful of time just after he was let go from the organization. Some of what is going on now makes me think back to his strong words about Wang. Obviously, not flattering. On a more neutral note, I recall Gordie Clark was also hailed as the next genius in training and history seems to show his loss wasn't so catastrophic. Still, this is just odd. A few questions: 1- What are the unique and specific job duties of Jankowski? Does he bring/add something more than what the scouts bring to him or does he just organize/prioritize the info for Garth? 2- How much does he make? 3- While this decision is obviously up to Wang, was it suggested/supported by Garth? If so, why? If not, what are the implications? P.S. If we do ever consider hiring another Director of Scouting, the applicant may want to watch Spinal Tap and think "drummer." |
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| Webb20 | Jul 7 2010, 05:21 PM Post #22 |
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You sure have alot of questions. Questions that will never be answered. And that should read "reporter of one covering this team" |
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I sold it all, retired and moved to Fabulous Las Vegas! "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Ben Franklin "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."-Ronald Reagan | |
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| smittyrules31 | Jul 7 2010, 05:25 PM Post #23 |
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Repeat a lie frequently enough....
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Really curious to hear what Janks has to say about this. |
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| Bossy22 | Jul 7 2010, 05:27 PM Post #24 |
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It makes sense. Snow is doing nothing else (signing free agents or making trades), may as well scout. |
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| stevedepot | Jul 7 2010, 06:46 PM Post #25 |
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You neither took it out of context nor should you take it personally. There are many who choose not to post as much or at all. I did the same thing you did 2 years ago up until I said enough and left for the dark side. I like the koolaid free zone <------JOKE it's just a joke, I swear!!!!
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| stevedepot | Jul 7 2010, 07:04 PM Post #26 |
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So now since Garth Snow is not only the GM but also the Director of Amateur Scouting, it's safe to say that his track record for multitasking ![]() helped in Wang's decision to NOT offer a new contract to Jankowski and reassign his duties to Snow. |
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| Andy | Jul 7 2010, 08:37 PM Post #27 |
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Enjoying the game.
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Drinking beer and watching chicks make out? Somebody give that man a raise! |
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| Dr. Generosity | Jul 7 2010, 08:50 PM Post #28 |
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Put the Cup Back in Our Lobby Where It Belongs
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Whew, damn hard to get back to the business of talkin' hockey when I have to follow that classic pic. Just read this sentence real slowly, like it's a paragraph long or something, and that'll clear the short-term memory a bit. Okay, I'm back. Anyhow, I was going to say the following: Failing to resign Janks, or promptly replace him with a new director of scouting, is a mistake on so many levels. First, this was a young, talented guy with obvious zest for the job who's been scouting a long time for his age. I was looking forward to seeing him grow in the job. And yes, the Isles sure did build him up. Hard to say he's a buffoon now. Interesting to see whether the Isles try to tell that story. Second, if you fire one director of scouting, you replace him with another. Sorry, I feel like I'm insulting your intelligence and mine by pointing this out, I know it could not be a more obvious point. Even during the dark days of Milstein et al., we had a director of amateur scouting. It's a full time job, always has been, back to the days of Ed Chadwick and Hank Bassen et al. helping out the younger Bill Torrey. Third, firing this guy isn't going to save a lot of dough, unless he engaged in some sort of incredible financial improprieties, which is hard to believe, since guys like this presumably depend on the GM and really the controller and other financial staff to get themselves and their staffs paid. Fourth, I'm just speculating here, but I suspect this is a real knee to the groins of our scouts, some of whom are not exactly Isles vets yet. I mean, firing the guy is one thing (yes, I know he was technically not re-signed, but please) but not hiring a new head scout? WTF?? Snow's going to handle the admin duties of the job? Uh, sorry, NO. Joanne Holewa or someone like her is going to bear the brunt of this decision. Fifth, every Islanders employee on the last year of their deal (hellooo Scott Gordon) will remember how we gave Janks little warning and then cut him loose. Loyalty is repaid with loyalty. Treating people like interchangeable parts gets you screwed. Sixth, it would be interesting to learn why this really went down. Perhaps we'll find out. It can't be because Snow et al. inquired about Kovalchuk and didn't bat down the rumors. Wrapping up: From time to time, I get tagged as an optimist in these parts. And it's true, since Wang fired Milbury, and especially since Wang and Snow started the rebuild, I've been a real happy camper. But this decision totally undercuts what we're supposedly trying to do. Without a really good explanation --- and a new director of amateur scouting who is qualified and given the tools to do that job --- two things I'm ready and willing to hear, Wang & Co. lose my confidence here.
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| Shooter | Jul 7 2010, 08:54 PM Post #29 |
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| 5-9-19-22-23-31 | Jul 7 2010, 09:27 PM Post #30 |
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What is Snow thinking? Or does that question presuppose a fact not in evidence ... that he thinks? Wow. We're going to build from within, without hiring anyone to oversee the process. |
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| Isles_Goal | Jul 7 2010, 09:28 PM Post #31 |
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I think it's time the NHL takes over this joke of a franchise. Wang is a joke of an owner...and needs to be forced out. Get the f#@k out Wang...and stop holding this franchise hostage...you f#@king tool!!! I'm so f#@king glad I decided not to renew for the up-coming season... |
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| 4CUPZ | Jul 7 2010, 09:42 PM Post #32 |
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HEAD OF SECURITY
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SLOWLY BUT SURELY THE HARDCORE FANBASE WEAKENS THEY BETTER START WINNING AND FAST OR NOBODY WILL BE HERE TO CARE WHEN CHUCKY PULLS UP THE STAKES AND ROLLS HIS CIRCUS OF FOOLS TO THE NEXT TOWN |
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| stevedepot | Jul 7 2010, 10:28 PM Post #33 |
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Amen. A while ago I posted this following article to not much of a response. Many Isles fans took the, oh no not us defense or just used the old tired line of "we need the Lighthouse". Well...time to rethink your stance fellow Isles fans. Let's revisit soemthing that we perhaps should have payed more attention to. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hock...article1548055/
In other news at Isles prospects camp, rumors spread that the coaching staff could only afford 1 puck.
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| 4CUPZ | Jul 8 2010, 12:22 AM Post #34 |
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HEAD OF SECURITY
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GEEZ AFTER READING ABOUT 50 REPLIES AT PB THIS TEAM HAS A WONDERFUL FAN APPROVAL RATING |
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| bumpkin | Jul 8 2010, 12:50 AM Post #35 |
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If Garth had better legs, he would be an Ice Girl this year, too! Another myopic move by the Islander "brain trust". Just adding another reason why UFA's avoid this team like the Black Death. |
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| LEDZEP | Jul 8 2010, 01:38 AM Post #36 |
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The Best That Ever Skated 80-81-82-83
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Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do... ![]() What puckhead says is Islander law Come in with the milk "A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets rough." Ronald Reagan | |
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| OlTimeHockey | Jul 8 2010, 02:22 AM Post #37 |
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It's the building. I told you. Jankowski was caught with a chisel and 12lb sledge in the upper rafters. Call it damage control. Wang is doing all he can to make us great. Parking at this post is $8, but it will all go to charity.
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| OlTimeHockey | Jul 8 2010, 02:50 AM Post #38 |
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Amazing....how can he stand to lose so much money (when not calculating the cable revenue all these years) yet still put out such a quality product so unselfishly? Next year, Wang will endure the same losses (Coliseum revenue goes into another account so the team will lose money while his cable revenue continues to come in and the arena revenue streams augment that) and suffer, suffer, suffer.... Help us Obi Wan Kenobe, you're our only hope. |
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| smittyrules31 | Jul 8 2010, 07:59 AM Post #39 |
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Repeat a lie frequently enough....
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The morning after and still left scratching my head on this one. More than anything, I'm just not sure what to make of it until I get some clarification from some/all of the parties involved, though some of the speculation seems obvious. Still, I don't feel as bothered as I think I should simply because I'm not sure how/if this move (or lack thereof) impacts what we will see on the ice this year. I, too, am very optimistic about this team and their future. While there is enough drama and chaos in the front offices to fuel several (poorly written) soap operas, my bottom line is wins and losses. Will this move help us attract free agents? Probably not, but I doubt that this event is going to be the deciding factor in a free agent's decision to come here or not. We've already seen what types of FAs we are going to land. Over the last two years our point totals jumped from the low 60s to the high 70s. I am hoping to see another 12-15 point jump again this year. If the team continues on that trajectory, I'll be happy (even with front office shenanigans that make us look bad). That said, I'm not sure how much play this is getting outside of the die-hard supporters. Anyway, all things considered, I'd rather that this didn't happen, but before I go jump off a bridge, I'd like to get some more info. |
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Authority without wisdom is like a heavy axe without an edge: fitter to bruise than polish. Anger makes dull men witty, but it keeps them poor. In the beginning, the Universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. | |
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| Webb20 | Jul 8 2010, 09:39 AM Post #40 |
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Don't hold your breath. You'll get a well crafted comment, but I doubt you'll get any true clarification of the reasoning. Smitty, you won't see an impact on ice for a few years. What our farm system looks like today may not look as good a few years from now. I don't know how much influence Jankowski had on our picks, but if he was the 'eye' for talent then this could hurt us. |
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