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Trotts Out As Player Development Director
Topic Started: Jul 8 2010, 10:04 AM (1,759 Views)
smittyrules31
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Repeat a lie frequently enough....
Fair enough. We'll simply agree to disagree on any number of matters. And please kow that I do apologize if I hurt your feelings with regards to the Chief and other comments. Not my intention. We all went through the Chief drama and you, sir, are no Chief. That said, you do acknowledge that you "like to stir the pot" and use "controversy" to get people to post. Is it possible that in so doing, you fail to recognize the impact that your words have on others and the overall tone of the board? You are a moderator and one of the few surviving members who signed up on day 1 (May 10, 2005). The general tone of this board is set by you and several others. In other words, you're influence here is quite strong. I was just commenting on what I saw as an environment that was, at times, unpleasant. If, in communicating that, I ended up doing the exact thing that I was critiquing, well, then I do owe you an apology. Perhaps we can soothe any hard feelings with a cup of Kool-aid? ;)
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smittyrules31,Jul 9 2010
09:30 AM
Fair enough.  We'll simply agree to disagree on any number of matters.  And please kow that I do apologize if I hurt your feelings with regards to the Chief and other comments.  Not my intention.  We all went through the Chief drama and you, sir, are no Chief.  That said, you do acknowledge that you "like to stir the pot" and use "controversy" to get people to post.  Is it possible that in so doing, you fail to recognize the impact that your words have on others and the overall tone of the board?  You are a moderator and one of the few surviving members who signed up on day 1 (May 10, 2005).  The general tone of this board is set by you and several others.  In other words, you're influence here is quite strong.  I was just commenting on what I saw as an environment that was, at times, unpleasant.  If, in communicating that, I ended up doing the exact thing that I was critiquing, well, then I do owe you an apology.  Perhaps we can soothe any hard feelings with a cup of Kool-aid? ;)

smitty, PLEASE no need to apologize for anything.

I don't want to influence anyone. I vent, and I debate. But I cannot understand how some
can handle the drama with the team but cannot understand the drama on the board.


I don't drink sweetened anything. I drink water. But for you, I'll have kool-aid.

Our future is bright!!!

:banana:

Wang is a #@%&


:dontknow: sorry, only took a sip.
:goofy2: ;)

Don't stay away because you disagree. I'll pay closer attention to what I post
and choose my words more wisely, if possible.
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And in true fashion of this board over it's history, differences and disagreements are settled without getting ugly. You guys are the best.
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Webb20,Jul 9 2010
01:44 PM
And in true fashion of this board over it's history, differences and disagreements are settled without getting ugly.  You guys are the best
:thumbsup:

True enough...and it wasn't me who slashed Steve's car tires tomorrow morning!
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sybo
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BD's (brief) entry on the subject:

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HOT TO TROT: A Source On Bryan Trottier’s Role With Isles

BDGallof | Jul 09, 2010 | Comments 4

As you might know, the Isles also dissolved Bryan Trottier’s position within the organization. That said, they are trying to find a new position for the lauded Islanders Alumni. However, on the backend of the HiJanks panic, it was just another nail in the coffin for some fans who have been searching for ledges to stand on with aplomb lately.

I spoke to a source who knew Trottier and had some things to say on it.

SOURCE:

He always told me that he had “a fancy title, but had no freakin’ idea what his duties really were.” He told me he has always wanted to be a coach again, but that Snow was dead-set against him. He always said he was shocked that they “let him come around.”

He also said. “They just tell me which kid to go see and I go and take him out to dinner and “evaluate” him…whatever that is.” He used to laugh and say “they’ve never listened to me about a kid.”
Garth Snow circa 2006:
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but how can you not be excited about DiPietro…Robert Nilsson…Ryan O'Marra…Petteri Nokelainen…Jeremy Colliton…Kyle Okposo…Blake Comeau…Sean Bergenheim…Chris Campoli…and so many others.
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sybo,Jul 9 2010
08:48 AM
BD's (brief) entry on the subject:

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HOT TO TROT: A Source On Bryan Trottier’s Role With Isles

BDGallof | Jul 09, 2010 | Comments 4

As you might know, the Isles also dissolved Bryan Trottier’s position within the organization. That said, they are trying to find a new position for the lauded Islanders Alumni. However, on the backend of the HiJanks panic, it was just another nail in the coffin for some fans who have been searching for ledges to stand on with aplomb lately.

I spoke to a source who knew Trottier and had some things to say on it.

SOURCE:

He always told me that he had “a fancy title, but had no freakin’ idea what his duties really were.” He told me he has always wanted to be a coach again, but that Snow was dead-set against him. He always said he was shocked that they “let him come around.”

He also said. “They just tell me which kid to go see and I go and take him out to dinner and “evaluate” him…whatever that is.” He used to laugh and say “they’ve never listened to me about a kid.”

Thanks Sybo. Wang's tearing apart of the franchise continues along with Snow.
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Bossy22
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Assuming the sources are reliable, then it makes sense.

I would love to get the story on Janks though. He was blindsided (as per Katie Strang), something must of really pissed off Snow or Wang
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smittyrules31
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Bossy22,Jul 9 2010
02:00 PM
Assuming the sources are reliable, then it makes sense.

I would love to get the story on Janks though. He was blindsided (as per Katie Strang), something must of really pissed off Snow or Wang

Bossy:

I posted this over in the Jankowski thread, but will also do so here.

http://hockeyindependent.com/blog/bdgallof/19479/
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Anger makes dull men witty, but it keeps them poor.

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Caution.

"sources" are what caused many of you to waste a good portion of your 4th of July weekend
waiting for a Kovy signing.

Just saying. Even though I believe alot of this, it's a rumor from a "source".

:dontknow:
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stevedepot,Jul 9 2010
09:04 AM
Caution.

"sources" are what caused many of you to waste a good portion of your 4th of July weekend
waiting for a Kovy signing.

Just saying. Even though I believe alot of this, it's a rumor from a "source".

:dontknow:

Sometimes the source is better than you think. I don't know in this particular case but many times in a story I will cite a "source" when it's the actual person who doesn't want his name in the story. I'm not saying this is the case though.
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smittyrules31
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Shooter,Jul 9 2010
02:57 PM
stevedepot,Jul 9 2010
09:04 AM
Caution.

"sources" are what caused many of you to waste a good portion of your 4th of July weekend
waiting for a Kovy signing.

Just saying. Even though I believe alot of this, it's a rumor from a "source".

:dontknow:

Sometimes the source is better than you think. I don't know in this particular case but many times in a story I will cite a "source" when it's the actual person who doesn't want his name in the story. I'm not saying this is the case though.

Shooter:

I was just going to post if anyone here thought that maybe it was actually Trotts himself who was the source. There were a few things in the quotes that made me think it might be him. Interesting.
Authority without wisdom is like a heavy axe without an edge: fitter to bruise than polish.

Anger makes dull men witty, but it keeps them poor.

In the beginning, the Universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Shooter
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smittyrules31,Jul 9 2010
10:20 AM
Shooter,Jul 9 2010
02:57 PM
stevedepot,Jul 9 2010
09:04 AM
Caution.

"sources" are what caused many of you to waste a good portion of your 4th of July weekend
waiting for a Kovy signing.

Just saying. Even though I believe alot of this, it's a rumor from a "source".

:dontknow:

Sometimes the source is better than you think. I don't know in this particular case but many times in a story I will cite a "source" when it's the actual person who doesn't want his name in the story. I'm not saying this is the case though.

Shooter:

I was just going to post if anyone here thought that maybe it was actually Trotts himself who was the source. There were a few things in the quotes that made me think it might be him. Interesting.

The quotes sounded well thought out Smitty. It's why I brought it up.
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smittyrules31
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Just another point here...and Steve's caution about the accuracy of what we read from "sources" is particularly true here...but if Trotts was going around and telling people in the know some of the things that are attributed to him here...hmmm, maybe not the wisest of moves? These sound like things more likely to be spoken after (an intelligent) person is let go. Or not.
Authority without wisdom is like a heavy axe without an edge: fitter to bruise than polish.

Anger makes dull men witty, but it keeps them poor.

In the beginning, the Universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
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smittyrules31,Jul 9 2010
10:44 AM
Just another point here...and Steve's caution about the accuracy of what we read from "sources" is particularly true here...but if Trotts was going around and telling people in the know some of the things that are attributed to him here...hmmm, maybe not the wisest of moves? These sound like things more likely to be spoken after (an intelligent) person is let go. Or not.

Well, that's speculation for sure. But if said, word moves around rather quickly in any business.
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Here's a good read form Botta...

http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2010/08...al-to-his-team/

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Since word got out earlier last month that the contract for his services as a player development coach for the Islanders would not be renewed, Bryan Trottier disappeared for a while. He got away from the phone and spent the last few weeks visiting with his mom in Saskatchewan.



In typical Trottier fashion, he expressed only positive sentiments about the organization and optimism for many of the team’s prospects when contactd by PB, simply confirming that he currently did not have a role with the team. General manager Garth Snow told a newspaper the team was finding a new position for him. Trottier had nothing to report on that front, but asked for the opportunity to speak directly to Islanders fans. He spoke while I took notes.



“I’m very grateful that I had the chance to re-connect with the Islanders, Long Island and New York. I had the player development position for the last four years, but the re-connection to the franchise really began in 2001 when Charles (Wang) and I started dealing with each other one-on-one, going back to my number being retired. I consider Charles a friend. I’m pretty sure he knows I’ll be there for the Islanders if he needs anything, no matter what role I have with the team.



“I loved working with our young players. The best part was the personal time spent with them. I’d go to Denver and see Rhett Rakhshani for a few days. I’d spend a lot of time in Bridgeport. I’d go out West and watch Travis Hamonic play and spend some time speaking with him. I’d speak with the players’ coaches. I really have a soft spot for Casey Cizikas. He’s just a good person and we had a great time getting to know each other and working on his game. I’ll be rooting hard for him, like I will all the prospects. I guess I always had a strong connection with Blake Comeau because we’re both Saskatchewan boys. I like the way Blake plays the game.



“We have a good crew of prospects. If given the time to mature, they should do well and hopefully grow together as important parts of a winning team. I feel good about many of the players’ futures.



“If I’m going to work for a team, I want it to be on the hockey side. That’s where I feel I have everything to give. I’m proud of my record working with Washington’s young players when I was coach in Portland, and of my work in Colorado as an assistant helping develop their players. I’m very happy with how far many of our prospects with the Islanders have come.



“It’s not necessary for me to have any official kind of ambassador-type role with the Islanders. The bottom line is that I’m one of the biggest ambassadors for the New York Islanders you’ll ever find. I’ll do that for nothing for the rest of my life. My family’s home is in Pittsburgh, I was part of Cup teams with the Penguins, but even when they introduce me here they say, ‘Bryan Trottier of the New York Islanders.’



“I’m always going to be a New York Islander. I’m always going to be a supporter of Charles and the franchise. My relationship with the team and the fans there is second only to family. The opportunity to be part of it again these last four years was really special for me. All I have are positive feelings and a lot of appreciation for the people I had the opportunity to work with. Please thank the fans for me. I’m sure I’ll be seeing them at some point down the road.”



Classy guy, always kind words. But I question alot. My favorite Islander and my idol.
I wish he didn't say that he'd work for free because you know Wang will take him up on that.

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I hope they can find a role for him, a real role, like Asst GM, or give him the coaching job of one of our minor league clubs (if that's not beneath him) as he seems to take pride in development of young players.

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Webb20,Aug 4 2010
10:36 AM
I hope they can find a role for him, a real role, like Asst GM, or give him the coaching job of one of our minor league clubs (if that's not beneath him) as he seems to take pride in development of young players.

Well, he did say something negative. :disgraced:

I'd love to see him replace Gorton once things go south with injuries or defense this year.
"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS

"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann

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Well that should put all the bad rumors to rest that Trottier was forced out. That certainly doesn't sound like the case.
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puckhead,Aug 4 2010
02:26 PM
Well that should put all the bad rumors to rest that Trottier was forced out. That certainly doesn't sound like the case.

WHAT DO YOU CALL HAVING A JOB AND THEN YOU DONT???
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4CUPZ,Aug 4 2010
02:55 PM
puckhead,Aug 4 2010
02:26 PM
Well that should put all the bad rumors to rest that Trottier was forced out.  That certainly doesn't sound like the case.

WHAT DO YOU CALL HAVING A JOB AND THEN YOU DONT???

Maybe he didn't want to take anymore of Wang's money because he's filthy rich
and needed a long vacation?

:lol:


They are looking for a spot within the org for him.
We have a housewife that runs the Isles facebook page being paid but nothing for Bryan Trottier.


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