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NYI 2010-2011 roster; who do you think is on the Island in Oct
Topic Started: Aug 1 2010, 09:41 AM (1,691 Views)
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As we all know, the Isles have a ton of spots on this roster available for fa's to come in and fill, trades to be made and for kids looking to make a name for themselves from the Bridge or Jrs. I thought making a thread on who you think will make the team with possible line combos might be a good idea. As we add/subtract players via deals, feel free to update your ideas.

Personally, I look at our offense as a whole mess. I'd love to see this first line stay in tact the entire season...

Moulson- Tavares-Okposo (LEAVE THEM ALONE THIS YEAR GORDON)
However, second, third and fourth lines are where things get odd. I don't think Schremp is a legit 2nd line center and would like Bailey to be there. However, this org has a hard on for Neilsen and he won't be on the 4th line like he should. Konopa will be there most likely. I see Comeau's future in the NHL as a legit 3rd line winger, but we might need him to be on second line due to a lack of talent up front. Weight and Hunter are question marks. I see Hunter's game having fallen off, perhaps due to several seasons of his high hit totals are wearing on his body. I'm not sure Hunter isn't headed towards 4th line status on a good team, but 3rd line status for us...same with Weight.
Then the question of Matt Martin, Nino and Jesse J. Will they both make it out of camp? I think Martin is definitely going to make it on this team. I see this kid as being a good 3rd line forward who will drop the mits and could put some decent numbers up on the 3rd line if playing with comparable talent. I'd like Nino to spend another season in jrs, but as we saw with Bailey, that might not be Snow's m.o. I think it is time Jesse J make this team otherwise, his window might be closing. As of now, I see the lineup in these terms...

Moulson- JT- Okposo
Bailey- Schremp- ???? (Nino or Jesse J if one of them makes it?)
Matt Martin- Neilsen (urrgh)- Comeau
Weight- Konopa- Hunter

(Let Wieght, Hunter, Neilsen and Comeau be PK guys)

As for defense, I'd rate our guys under contract as follows...
1- Streit
2- Wisniewski
3- Martinek (when healthy)
4- MacDonald
5- Eaton
6- Hillen
7- Jurcina
8- Reese
9- Gervais

The order can certainly be argued, but I don't think there will be much disagreement about who is in the top 6 (their order is certainly debateable) and who is not. At any rate, Bruno should have plenty of time to do more PR work since he shouldn't see the ice unless two dmen go down with injuries.
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The oldest guy in our Top 9 is 27.

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Why urgh for Franzie? He's our best defensive centerman.
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Why urgh for Franzie? He's our best defensive centerman.

because I think our fanbase and our organization overrates him. IF he's a good defensive center, wtf has he been doing on the PP and 2nd line in each of the past two seasons? I think his career potential ON A GOOD TEAM is as a 4th line center, but we play him (sometimes due to necessity) above his ability level far too often. FRanz is 27 and he's still easily knocked off the puck. I don't think he's going to get any better offensively.

Now, I don't have much complaint about him defensively, except that he's soft and doesn't win a ton of battles in front of our net. He might be good positionally, but he gets outmusled alot. It always angered me that this guy was getting PP time and 2nd line centering time while Bailey wasn't. I saw it as an idiotic move by our coaching and front office and in the end, I fear it will stunt the progress of Bailey at the expense of a guy with not nearly as much talent or potential. If Bailey is to learn by "playing the kids" it never made sense to me to play someone else in those situations that does not have the potential to do so 4 years down the road. Otherwise, they should have let Bailey play in the Bridge so he gets to play in those situations and develop. No one develops sitting down.
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I think Franz is an excellent PKer, and I love his speed. He's lethal on breakaways / shootouts and will pot 15 / 40 for a reasonable 750k as a third line center.
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10:41 AM

Moulson- JT- Okposo
Bailey- Schremp- ???? (Nino or Jesse J if one of them makes it?)
Matt Martin- Neilsen (urrgh)- Comeau
Weight- Konopa- Hunter

(Let Wieght, Hunter, Neilsen and Comeau be PK guys)

As for defense, I'd rate our guys under contract as follows...
1- Streit
2- Wisniewski
3- Martinek (when healthy)
4- MacDonald
5- Eaton
6- Hillen
7- Jurcina
8- Reese
9- Gervais

Moulson-JT-Comeau
Bailey-Schremp-KO
Hunter-Nelison-Weight
Konkopa-Parentau-Gilles/Martin

Maybe Nino or Pertov

Streit-AMac
Wisniewski-Martinek
Eaton-Hillen

Gervis/Jurcina

Roloson
DP/Lawson


Again lines are debatable since chemistry plays a large role in camp and into the season. I think they have to trade Martinek cause I don't see them carring 8 Dmen for a long time and would expect Gervis/Jurcina to be the 6th Dman.
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10:05 AM
I think Franz is an excellent PKer, and I love his speed. He's lethal on breakaways / shootouts and will pot 15 / 40 for a reasonable 750k as a third line center.

I don't think he will EVER reach those numbers. Last year he got a LOT of time on 2nd line and the PP and failed to reach either. He won't reach it as a 3rd liner center, but then again, Gordo will probably play him at second line again like a fool.
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I would be very disappointed if martinek was still on this roster by october. Its because of his injuries that gave gervais playing time...say goodbye to both.


Moulson-JT-Comeau
Bailey-Schremp-KO


okposo and bailey always played good together before tavares got drafted, don't separate those two..


Hunter-Nelison-Weight/Martin, this line will mostly be weightless, being that weight's injuries will keep him out again for another season..


Konkopa-Parentau-Gilles keep the portland line intact...the pest line


Streit-AMac
Wisniewski/Jurcina
Eaton-Hillen

niemi (expect the isles to make a play for him)
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10:52 AM
I would be very disappointed if martinek was still on this roster by october. Its because of his injuries that gave gervais playing time...say goodbye to both.


Moulson-JT-Comeau
Bailey-Schremp-KO


okposo and bailey always played good together before tavares got drafted, don't separate those two..


Hunter-Nelison-Weight/Martin, this line will mostly be weightless, being that weight's injuries will keep him out again for another season..


Konkopa-Parentau-Gilles keep the portland line intact...the pest line


Streit-AMac
Wisniewski/Jurcina
Eaton-Hillen

niemi (expect the isles to make a play for him)
rick/roloson

Don't agree about Neimi. The Hawks just got a GREAT ruling in arbitration. No way the Hawks walk away from a 1 year deal around 2.5 million. Besides, the Isles goaltending situation for next season is fine.

We will have Rollie as our number one and he will start 50-60 games.

We will have DP or Lawson as the backup who will get somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 starts. IF DP can't go, we call up the kid from the Bridge. If he's ready to go and is healthy, great. Nice welcome surprise.

I don't see the Isles making a move to get Neimi because at his price, the Hawks have the right to expect something in return because trading him really does nothing about their cap woes. They have bigger fish to move.
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What this team is still missing is a leader by example, one who puts team first, who's young enough to relate to these guys, but experienced enough to show them what it really takes to win and to teach them what kind of commitment and work it takes. I guess Mike Richards is out of the question.

Other than that I agree I4C, and I too think Franz should be our 3rd line center. Hunter is a square peg into a round hole on this team and I think it'd be best if Garth try and move him before all his value is gone. With his easy contract he may be movable.

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yeah, I guess the niemi thing is just wishful thinking on my part...and you're right I4C, goaltending is good for us...when does anyone think koskinen will be ready? 2-3years?

I would hate to see the islanders trade hunter. Yes, I realize he doesn't have much anymore...but if you keep him on a 3rd or 4th line and don't use him on pp, or sh er,uh, don't know where I'm going with that...want to say by limiting him, he can be more useful..
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won't it be nice in 2011-2012 to see a defensive top 7 of

Streit
Wisniewksi
MacDonald
Hillen
Hamonic
deHaan
Eaton

still with Donovan coming up the system...that would be a much nicer D to see imho
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won't it be nice in 2011-2012 to see a defensive top 7 of

Streit
Wisniewksi
MacDonald
Hillen
Hamonic
deHaan
Eaton

still with Donovan coming up the system...that would be a much nicer D to see imho

I just got goose bumps looking at those names..some excitement..then realized, one more year of mediocre. Though, I'm somewhat happy with the defense this year, have to see it first to judge. I do miss freddy meyer. wish they sign him. I know thats an unpopular opinion.
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yeah, I guess the niemi thing is just wishful thinking on my part...and you're right I4C, goaltending is good for us...when does anyone think koskinen will be ready? 2-3years?

I would hate to see the islanders trade hunter. Yes, I realize he doesn't have much anymore...but if you keep him on a 3rd or 4th line and don't use him on pp, or sh er,uh, don't know where I'm going with that...want to say by limiting him, he can be more useful..

I think that is a fair timetable for Koskinen. Might be closer to 3 than 2.

As for Hunter, I just think he's going to be more successful in a checking line, defensive forward role in the next 2-3 seasons than he will being expected to be a strong offensive player. I think any cup contender would be thrilled to pick up Hunter at a trade deadline and put him in that role of 4th liner and PK guy. He can also, unlike Richard Park, move up a line or two to fill in for injured guys, but I don't think he can maintain the offense needed to stay on those lines.

Remember last year when the Isles rolled a 4th line of Bergie-Weight and Park for about 10 games and they were an excellent 4th line, but of course Gordo broke that up. :doh: :dontknow: and moved Park up to first line for a while :rofl:

I think Hunter would be highly successful in such a role as a 4th liner guy, but that would mean we need more talent above him to push him off the top 3 lines. We might not be there yet. I do think Matt martin will be more successful on the 3rd line than Hunter will be this season. If Martin were on the 4th line, I'd rather keep him at the Bridge. No need to have a kid that young playing 10 minutes a night.
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won't it be nice in 2011-2012 to see a defensive top 7 of

Streit
Wisniewksi
MacDonald
Hillen
Hamonic
deHaan
Eaton

still with Donovan coming up the system...that would be a much nicer D to see imho

I just got goose bumps looking at those names..some excitement..then realized, one more year of mediocre. Though, I'm somewhat happy with the defense this year, have to see it first to judge. I do miss freddy meyer. wish they sign him. I know thats an unpopular opinion.

I'd rather have him over Gervais, but it is like deciding if you rather live next to a landfill or a sewage treatment plant. :bfart: :fart:
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won't it be nice in 2011-2012 to see a defensive top 7 of

Streit
Wisniewksi
MacDonald
Hillen
Hamonic
deHaan
Eaton

still with Donovan coming up the system...that would be a much nicer D to see imho

I just got goose bumps looking at those names..some excitement..then realized, one more year of mediocre. Though, I'm somewhat happy with the defense this year, have to see it first to judge. I do miss freddy meyer. wish they sign him. I know thats an unpopular opinion.

I'd rather have him over Gervais, but it is like deciding if you rather live next to a landfill or a sewage treatment plant. :bfart: :fart:

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Niemi :P

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Moulson-Tavares-Comeau
Bailey-Schremp-Okposo
Hunter-Neilsen-Neiderreiter
Gillies-Konopka-Martin

Streit-Hillen
MacDonald-Wisneiwski
Eaton-Gervais

Niemi :P

Roloson
DP/Lawson

please tell me as coach or gm you wou'dn't play Gervais above Jurcina or Martinek.

And why would you have your first rounder with tremondous upside wasting on third line with Franz and Trent. Keep him in jrs if you are going to do that.

And where is Weight? He's making this team out of camp.
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Moulson-Tavares-Comeau
Bailey-Schremp-Okposo
Hunter-Neilsen-Neiderreiter
Gillies-Konopka-Martin

Streit-Hillen
MacDonald-Wisneiwski
Eaton-Gervais

Niemi :P

Roloson
DP/Lawson

please tell me as coach or gm you wou'dn't play Gervais above Jurcina or Martinek.

And why would you have your first rounder with tremondous upside wasting on third line with Franz and Trent. Keep him in jrs if you are going to do that.

And where is Weight? He's making this team out of camp.

Don't for get AMAC, he's got a 3yr deal...I would believe he'll play over all 3 of them.

Gilles will be your press "boxer" most nights and Nino plays he should see top 6 time, otherwise back to juniors.
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The lack of toughness and grit is scary IMO and I'm not just talking enforcers, I'm talking about team toughness. Where is it coming from??? Who is to stop Tavares from getting beaten from pillar to post again this year???
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