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| 19! | May 3 2010, 09:54 PM Post #101 |
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| 19! | May 3 2010, 09:55 PM Post #102 |
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If you don't think the off ice management circus affects the on ice product then you're sadly mistaken. |
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| Jackace | May 3 2010, 10:10 PM Post #103 |
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Where in my post does it even closely infer there is no connection between off-ice management F-ups and the on-ice product? Because I dont get caught up in all things Wang and see things all bad? Whatever. |
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| 19! | May 3 2010, 10:27 PM Post #104 |
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It's implied. And the record proves it. Let me know when NYI isn't the worst or 5th worst team in the league.......because of incompetent management. Hope for the best, expect the worst. It's a NYI fan's way of life. "Whatever". :rolleyes: |
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| Jackace | May 4 2010, 06:43 AM Post #105 |
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You have shown time and again you dont understand what I post. Implied.
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| 4CUPZ | May 4 2010, 08:22 AM Post #106 |
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JACK WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT?
SO YOU AGREE ABOUT ALL THE NONSENSE BUT YOU ALWAYS WANT TO BATTLE THOSE WHO HAVENT GIVEN UP CALLING THE TEAM OUT. IT SEEMS YOU MAY NOT GET IRATE AT THE OWNERSHIP BUT IT APPEARS YOU HAVE THE NEED TO GO TO BATTLE WITH EVERYONE THAT YOU FEEL IS AGAINST THE WANG EMPIRE AND LETS JUST SAY "WE AGREE TO DISAGREE" CAUSE I KNOW AFTER 20 MORE POSTS THIS IS WHERE IT WILL END UP |
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| stevedepot | May 28 2010, 09:53 AM Post #107 |
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I didn't want to start a new thread with this. But I read over at HF that Mike Fatcessa on WFAN talked with Bettman yesterday and suggested that he believes Charles Wang would get building along with a casino and racetrack at the current Belmont site. Anyone here listen to that program or hear that interview? |
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| OlTimeHockey | May 28 2010, 12:07 PM Post #108 |
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I read a snippet about it and have to say......Bettman ruined hockey, is a punchy schmuck and we have faith in his word now why? The Coliseum counterproposal isn't even out yet. Wilpon chases Wang, the news chases Wang, the drama is fed all over, yet Wang has funded a proposal and studies and is about to get a counterp[roposal that likely will make him very rich. So Brooklyn turns to Queens which turns to Belmont and next up Pilgrim State or whatever else gets spoonfed to those selling internet advertising or paper.... Murray, I bet, gives 50% of a huge payout to a developer in return for a reduced traffic and housing load on the community. Wang makes a ton of money. Drama ends. Writers and bloggers are upset but relieved. Now to find other drama to sell ad space for. |
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| Westfall18 | May 28 2010, 12:21 PM Post #109 |
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I can't believe in my right mind that the New York Islanders would be able to build an arena on the grounds of Belmont Park..I just can't see it happening..I read somewhere someone talked about tearing down Belmont and making Aqueduct a year round race track..You gotta be out of your mind..If youve ever been to The Big A it's home to degenerate gamblers and all kinds of seedy characters..Nobody in there right mind goes out to Aqueduct.. |
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The Keeper of All Things Westfall William H. McCue Sr. 1934-2015 Rest in Peace Poppa. | |
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| OlTimeHockey | May 28 2010, 01:00 PM Post #110 |
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It sounds assinine. One third of the Triple Crown removed so Richard Park can play in a nicer venue? |
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| 4CUPZ | May 28 2010, 01:35 PM Post #111 |
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IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE A NEW IDEA? MANY MOONS AGO GRASSHOPPER A SILVER ARENA WAS TO APPEAR IN BELMONTS PARKING LOT AND RUMOR WAS THE ISLANDERS COULD MOVE THERE BUT AGAIN AS THE WANG CLAN ALREADY SAID JUST HAVING FULL CONTROL OF AN ARENA WOULD NOT MAKE HUMPTY DUMPTY WHOLE AGAIN |
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| Shooter | May 29 2010, 07:12 AM Post #112 |
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Is he coming back???
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| 3POTI | May 29 2010, 05:24 PM Post #113 |
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Bring back...PRIDE OF THE ISLAND
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Today Is A Great Day To Be An Islander Fan! Live For The Moment! | |
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| LEDZEP | May 29 2010, 07:08 PM Post #114 |
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Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do... ![]() What puckhead says is Islander law Come in with the milk "A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets rough." Ronald Reagan | |
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| 4CUPZ | Jun 21 2010, 08:07 AM Post #115 |
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Nassau Coliseum and Brookhaven Calabro Airport have emerged as the leading casino choices of the Shinnecock Indian Nation as the tribe and its backers work to secure political support for plans for as many as three casino/entertainment complexes around Long Island, tribal and political officials say. With federal recognition approved last week, pending a final comment period, tribal representatives went to Albany on Friday for meetings with Gov. David A. Paterson's staff to build the framework for a revenue-sharing and site-selection compact. Armed with their new status, land claims of nearly 3,600 acres in the heart of the Hamptons and the right to open a casino on their Southampton reservation, the tribe is exerting its influence. In the weeks leading up to, and in the days following last Tuesday's nod from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, tribal representatives held a flurry of meetings with political leaders, union heads and developers such as Charles Wang. "We had a positive meeting today with the governor's counsel" Shinnecock tribal chairman Randy King said Friday. "They said, 'You have to show us you have the support to get this done.' I think we have the support and can get that done." Paterson's office, which is charged with negotiating the compact, has cautioned that, with significant bureaucratic milestones ahead, a casino isn't likely to open anytime soon. "The Shinnecock Indian Nation has numerous hurdles to clear before it could develop a casino off-reservation," said Paterson. He isn't running for election, however, and his successor would have to sign off on the compact if talks extend into next year. A Paterson spokesman did not return several calls for comment about the Friday meeting. Nonetheless, the tribe's overriding message to the state remains: New York is strapped and casino projects would mean thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue. "There's a lot of folks who are out of work in New York and their leaders are really looking to get this project done," King said. "I think they're going to be calling on the governor's office and saying, 'Let's get it done.' " Securing political support Tribal leaders say their goal is to secure as much political support as possible to advance their plans. As part of that effort they: Signed a memorandum of understanding with the politically powerful New York Hotel Trades Council agreeing that any property it develops will hire the union's members. Met last week with the Nassau-Suffolk Building Trades Council, pledging to use union workers on their projects. In addition, Rep. Tim Bishop (D-Southampton) said in an interview Thursday he would be willing to sponsor federal legislation for a "land-in-trust" proposal that the tribe would need for any casino off its reservation. The tribe and its backers at Gateway Casino Resorts of Detroit also are narrowing a list of just over a half-dozen possible casino sites, with Brookhaven Calabro Airport in Shirley and Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale now leading the pack. "Those are definitely the leading candidates," said a tribal representative who declined to be identified because he wasn't authorized to speak for the tribe. He emphasized that "nothing is off the table," and stressed that once sites are finalized the tribe intends to reach out to local communities to communicate its intentions and to hear their concerns. Senior trustee Lance Gumbs said the tribe's checklist for potential sites, as well as traits that would make the Coliseum and airport appealing, include accessibility - nearby highways, rail lines and air transport - and access to vital public services like utilities. "It's got to have infrastructure already in place," he said. "Anything that can cut the potential cost of development" is a plus, he said. King acknowledged, as have Gateway backers, that multiple casino locations are possible. "If the state is willing to entertain multiple sites, I think we have the focus to get it done," he said. Senior Shinnecock trustee Lance Gumbs said the tribe hopes to reach a "compact agreement" with the state akin to that reached by the Seneca Nation upstate in 2002. That agreement allowed three casinos in exchange for Seneca giving up land claims. The Shinnecocks have substantial land claims, too - nearly 3,600 acres in Southampton, including the Shinnecock Hills Golf Course and the former Southampton College - worth more than $1.2 billion. They will also soon have the right to open a casino on their Southampton reservation, though that, too, is considered a remote option. Leverage from land claims No one expects the tribe to annex Southampton properties. But like the right to build on the reservation, the land claims remain key chess pieces in a strategy designed to deliver for the tribe and its Detroit backers one or more world-class "entertainment" complexes on Long Island. Political backing already appears to be building at the local and federal level. Assemb. Fred Thiele (I-Sag Harbor) said he has a handshake agreement with the tribe to support its efforts after it decided not to pursue a casino in the Hamptons. "Being a member of the State Legislature, I have access to public officials. . . . I see myself as playing a role in terms of a compact," Thiele said. Bishop said he's had an "evolving agreement" with the tribe over what his role would be. "I have made clear my opposition to a casino on the East End of Long Island since February of 2003," Bishop said. Since then, he said, "I have been working with them to try to find a spot where a casino would be accepted." Gumbs stressed that site selection is far from finalized. "We have ideas and still a number are being looked at," he said. Gumbs said the aim of any casino project will be for a "family-run entertainment complex." He rejected the idea that a Shinnecock facility would look like a traditional casino. "What I've been hearing from people is, you say 'casino' [and] they think Atlantic City," Gumbs said. "Indian gaming is far removed from that. This is a family business, and as such we intend to fully operate it that way." In addition, he said, there will be benefits for the surrounding community - not only in jobs, but also in the potential to lower property taxes. "People keep saying, 'What a strain it will put on public resources,' " Gumbs said. "Well, the opposite is true. Gaming enhances those resources." With Celeste Hadrick and James T. Madore THE HURDLES AHEAD Before any ground can be broken for Shinnecock casino: -- The tribe must finish a 30-day waiting period, during which the recognition decision will be published in the Federal Register. The process is expected to conclude July 15. -- The tribe must negotiate a compact with the State of New York. It would stipulate how revenue from casino operations would be shared with the state and which locations are most suitable, among other things. -- An off-reservation casino would need to secure an agreement with the federal government. Known as a land-in-trust agreement, it would essentially declare the remote property tribal ground. This agreement can be secured either through a decision by the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs or by an Act of Congress. -- The tribe also must either be welcomed, or convince a host community that a casino is in its best interests. The tribe has expressed a strong desire to secure the support of local community groups and political leaders. http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk...oster-1.2039560 |
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| stevedepot | Jun 21 2010, 08:26 AM Post #116 |
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Last thing we need. I can just hear all the RAG fans yelling "FISH n CHIPS". |
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| Webb20 | Jun 21 2010, 10:52 AM Post #117 |
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The best place for this by far is still the former Calverton Naval base. 2900 acres will act as a huge buffer to any communities. You'd never know it's there. Exit 69, wading river road north would have to be expanded, but after 3/4 of a mile it runs thru state land so highway expansion wouldn't upset many residents. And the Town of Riverhead doesn't care much for environmental impact studies, they love development, as anyone who's driven rt58 (exit 73) could tell you from Tanger to Target, the TOR says no to no-one. Calabro is right in the middle of tightly packed shirley neighborhoods. And if the Shinnecocks really could learn something from the lighthouse project, they should stay far away from the Coliseum site as the politicians would slow progress to a crawl. |
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I sold it all, retired and moved to Fabulous Las Vegas! "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Ben Franklin "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."-Ronald Reagan | |
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| RWWallpaper | Jun 21 2010, 11:11 AM Post #118 |
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I grew up 5 blocks from that Airport, my parents and sister still live there, and could not agree more Webby...nowhere near enough room to handle the traffic created by something of this nature... |
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| OlTimeHockey | Jun 21 2010, 01:59 PM Post #119 |
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I'm hoping the Shinnicock tribe wins the NVMC property. I'm ready to come in with a load of cloth, beads, hatchets, and other odds and ends (roughly $24 worth) to buy it off them, which would be ENORMOUS given Manhattan went for the same price in 1626. ![]() I'll even throw in some of these paddleballs. |
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| THEDRIVE4FIVE | Jun 21 2010, 02:06 PM Post #120 |
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