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We got Guerin!!!
Topic Started: Jul 5 2007, 04:44 PM (4,138 Views)
CapeBretonIslander
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awol42,Jul 5 2007
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looks like damage control to me.seems like garth trying to save face.

Not an isles fan....

Not an Isles Fan?Who the hell are you to judge me?


if we would have signed "some" of the team that we let go I'd be jumping for joy too by adding guerin.i think at this point it dont matter which of the remaining free agents we sign.signing theese players just to trade at the deadline dont make me want to run out and buy tickets.Garth is going to have to do alot better than that just to compete in our division,nevermind the conference.im still not convinced this just isn't damage control.theres alot of pressure on snow and he's under the microscope after 7/1.

I'm the guy who's forced to read your uneducated comments about Garth and the team.

You may have webby to "vouche" for you as an isles fan but your words ring hollow to me...

Apparently you know better than the rest of us that these moves are "pressure" moves and that these guys will just be traded at the end (although he has a NTC). You have no idea what you are talking about and I'm sick of the naysaying...You're a debbie downer and at this moment there is no need for it

No need to talk condecending to him, Whip is entitled to his opinion like everyone else, and if you knew and sat down and talked hockey with him like I have on many occasions you wouldnt be making these absurd accusations of him.

No offense Webby, but I think your letting your friendship with this guy cloud your judgment....He's completely being a debbie downer he's also made statements that this was: (a) a Panic move; and (B) Guerin is just trade bait.

I'm sorry but his "opinions" are based on assumptions on top of assumptions...no real facts....

I'm sorry if me "calling a spade a spade" is offending you or anyone else on the board but Jeez...enough with the gloom and doom for five minutes

AWOL so what he is able to have his own opinion and it is a good one even if someone likes it or not.

THIS ISNT NORTH KOREA YA KNOW!!!!
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Guerin can be mentioned in the same breath as Smyth, While he's not quite the leader, he does have more overall skill. At 4.5 million on a two year deal, the risk is much lower as well. Nice Job Garth !!!!! Glad none of us ever doubted you ! LOL
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WOW

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4CUPZ,Jul 5 2007
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WOW

EXCUSE ME WHILE I RUN THE STREETS

LMAO :banana:
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actually, I think we should have referrendum on the use of the phrase "DEBBIE DOWNER". Not exactly the most masculine phrase to use......



Not that there is anything wrong with that
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Oh, come on. Just trying to lighten the mood a bit.

Anyone know when the schedule comes out?
I miss these :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: and want more of them
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Ek now claims Comrie is "very close" to signing with us. We will see what happens.
I miss these :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: and want more of them
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Whiplash,Jul 5 2007
05:02 PM
looks like damage control to me.seems like garth trying to save face.

if you can't stay positive, and say something positive, then don't say anything at all..


patience...positivity...Islanders Fans motto....


trust in garth, he is doing the right thing...


hate me if you want, thats your right, but I am trying to be positive, I am trying to spread positivity to everyone I meet....whats wrong with that?


what would you rather have? to be a positive person or a negative person?


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"the arrival of Bill Guerin", Jesus Christ lets not make a big deal out of this like we did with Smyth, when we had f#@king TV camers at the airport

Guerin is a past his prime player, he will not turn this team around and will not lead us to the promised land, he is here to fill the roster and make the minumum salary cap(and maybe be a trade bait at the deadline), lets not make a big deal out of this, a Press Conference is not needed, no one really cares why Guerin is here, and by Guerin saying he is here because he "sees Garths determination to winning", we all know that is a lie, there is a 50% chance he wont be here at the end of this year and a 75% percent chance he wont be here at the end of next, please Islanders dont embarass me any further and make a big deal out of this

jeeze. you really need to get the sand out of your vag-jay-jay.

I bet you think this was a great move and will bring the Islanders closer to the 6th playoff spot, you also probably thought the Smyth trade was a great trade and like Snow would do it all over again

If Dipietro does not get hurt in Montreal... that Smyth trade could have been Perfect. We rolled the dice and got burned. Weren't you happy to see Wang make a statement that we are for real.. no longer the perennial sellers at the deadline or the year we got crazy an added steve webb at the deadline.

It doesnt matter, even with Smyth and DP not getting hurt, Isles were no more then a 2nd round playoff team(but with them healthy of course we get knocked in the first), unless you are a contending team you dont even think of making a trade like that

I knew the second I hear that trade it was horrible, you dont trade 3 f#@king 1st round prospects for a f#@king rental player, especially when you are not a lock to make the playoffs and even with that player not considered a contending team for the cup

That trade gets an F when I heard it and an F now

Then you are a genius. Let me ask you a question.

Why are you so upset with losing Nillson? He played a grand total of 4 GAMES for Edmonton, gaining fewer minutes in each game. HE IS A BUM!!! He was a first round pick in 2003!!! It is now 2007!!! Four years and he's contributed nothing on the Island. He played 4 games for Edmonton and then NOTHING. He isn't even listed on their roster. he's listed in their "In the system" section. How long do you wait for a first round pick to develop before you call him a BUST?

That is what kills me about guys who rail about the Smyth trade. Giving up Nillson was NOTHING!!! He was another of MM's first round BUSTS. Yes, losing O'Mara stinks and it was nice of Edmonton waste the first round pick we gave them by taking Plante a round early, but everyone knew this was a thin draft and no one predicted the Russian and Espo would drop that far, so enough griping.

The deal is done. Let's move on. Otherwise, please give us more of your Carnac like predictions since you apparently know how the Isles offseason is going to end up already.

because Nillson is what, 22 years old? And it isnt just Nillson, it is Nillson, O Marra and the 15th overall, you dont trade those guys when you cant afford it, and even if we werent high on all those guys, that is a horrible way to deal with your assests,, if you have a Honus Wagner 1910 baseball card that is valued at 3 million dolalrs but yours is bent in half and is only valued at 1 million dollars, do you just give it away? no you get what you can for it, Snow made a horrible, absolutley horrible trade when he made that trade for Smyth

and everyone says this is a thin draft, who the f#@k knows, at least 1/2 of 1st rounders always turn out to be legitimate NHL players, just look at the past 1st round drafts over the last 20 years, no one can ever tell the draft until 7 years later

My predictions? Isles will most likely miss the playoffs this year, we may sign Comrie or someone else, Isles probably jacked their attendance up a little with the signing of Guerin, but we will again fall last in attendance and have a worse attendance then last year
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Great signing Garth, brings some legitamacy back to the ISLES. As i said in my posts before this group has a plan and is sticking to it. You cannot be pressured by fan discontent to just sign anyone, just to say you are active. Guerin's contract is alot of money but the years are good, and he plays with heart and that's what i love. Also he brings his name which may attract others to come.
Side note please don't sign Souray, i live in Montreal and saw most of the habs games. All he has is a shot and we have MAB for that. He is slow and horible in his own end, plus for the money he is asking it is a horrible contract to undertake. I would rather Markov, or Sutton than him.

Hold your head up high Islander fans, our time is coming soon, let's unite and support this team, because WE ARE ALL ISLANDERS!!!!!!!


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BSutter21,Jul 5 2007
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Just thought of this: If Guerin plays out his contract, then next summer we have someone who can call UFA's ala Sakic and make a pitch to come to LI. Like some others have said, he brings some credibility along with what he does on the ice.

good move garth....keep up the good work...
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awol42,Jul 5 2007
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Whiplash,Jul 5 2007
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looks like damage control to me.seems like garth trying to save face.

Not an isles fan....

Not an Isles Fan?Who the hell are you to judge me?


if we would have signed "some" of the team that we let go I'd be jumping for joy too by adding guerin.i think at this point it dont matter which of the remaining free agents we sign.signing theese players just to trade at the deadline dont make me want to run out and buy tickets.Garth is going to have to do alot better than that just to compete in our division,nevermind the conference.im still not convinced this just isn't damage control.theres alot of pressure on snow and he's under the microscope after 7/1.

I'm the guy who's forced to read your uneducated comments about Garth and the team.

You may have webby to "vouche" for you as an isles fan but your words ring hollow to me...

Apparently you know better than the rest of us that these moves are "pressure" moves and that these guys will just be traded at the end (although he has a NTC). You have no idea what you are talking about and I'm sick of the naysaying...You're a debbie downer and at this moment there is no need for it

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Woo hooo!!
Yes, some respectability.
Comrie too please.
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teknics,Jul 5 2007
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Whiplash,Jul 5 2007
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looks like damage control to me.seems like garth trying to save face.

Seriously, you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself "Am I REALLY an Islanders fan?"

Some people are complete oxygen thieves, I am tired of being nice. This is why I can't post anywhere anymore - its not worth it.



Awwww c'mon, don't let one A.H. stop ya from posting here.

You got some good stuff, (most of the time :P )
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Guerin is a good signing regardless of past personel misjudgements by Snow and company. I don't understand how people could see this as a negative thing. He is not our savior, but he's a start in the right direction.
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We are going to have to consider this move as the return for the 3 draft picks istead of Smyth. I think they are both similar players - the "down and dirty" types. Guerin is actually a Cup champion while Smyth is not - may he never gets his name on a Cup.

To those criticizing this move, you have to be fair - you can't knock them for doing nothing and than knock them again when they pull a fairly significant move like this. This is not a Jon Sim sgning - Guerin is a major player.

Comrie would be a good second line center- if they close the deal. They are still going to need a 1st line center and top 2 d-man, but this is much better off than we were just a couple of days ago.
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Guerin is a good signing regardless of past personel misjudgements by Snow and company. I don't understand how people could see this as a negative thing. He is not our savior, but he's a start in the right direction.

Short but probably the most useful and correct post in this thread.
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Garth the suspense kills us fans. But way to go signing Billy. Hopefully more positive news is coming. With some young and older blood this team can compete. DP needs to be healthy and at his best and he has shown he can do that if he just sticks to the gameplan. Is it October yet???


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3POTI,Jul 5 2007
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Whiplash,Jul 5 2007
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looks like damage control to me.seems like garth trying to save face.

if you can't stay positive, and say something positive, then don't say anything at all..


patience...positivity...Islanders Fans motto....


trust in garth, he is doing the right thing...


hate me if you want, thats your right, but I am trying to be positive, I am trying to spread positivity to everyone I meet....whats wrong with that?


what would you rather have? to be a positive person or a negative person?

Dont say anything at all!!!!!! Who the hell do you think you are to say that!! This is a message board for everyone not just you! I like the fact Snow signed Guerin but I do like to hear all opinions by all in this message board, positive and negative. Long as no one is being personal and slandering someone its OK!!

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"the arrival of Bill Guerin", Jesus Christ lets not make a big deal out of this like we did with Smyth, when we had f#@king TV camers at the airport

Guerin is a past his prime player, he will not turn this team around and will not lead us to the promised land, he is here to fill the roster and make the minumum salary cap(and maybe be a trade bait at the deadline), lets not make a big deal out of this, a Press Conference is not needed, no one really cares why Guerin is here, and by Guerin saying he is here because he "sees Garths determination to winning", we all know that is a lie, there is a 50% chance he wont be here at the end of this year and a 75% percent chance he wont be here at the end of next, please Islanders dont embarass me any further and make a big deal out of this

jeeze. you really need to get the sand out of your vag-jay-jay.

I bet you think this was a great move and will bring the Islanders closer to the 6th playoff spot, you also probably thought the Smyth trade was a great trade and like Snow would do it all over again

was this a good move? Yup. was getting smyth here a good move? yup. did it hurt when he signed with the avalanche? Of course. it's the nature of Islanders hockey, lad. never did i say this will get us far in the playoffs nor did i ever say we will dominate in the atlantic division. making early predictions such as yours is not my forte and who knows, you could be right all along OR wrong(im optimistic so i choose the latter). youre right on about blowing this out of proportion; i thought it was a bad media move by the islanders to video tape smyth landing at the airport but we if land more well-known names, even those with SOME pop-credibility, what's wrong with a press conference? its good publicity and honestly, and even you have to admit this, we need the press. its not gomez, its not drury but like i've been saying all week - i'd rather depend on 20 guys than 2 all-star players. its only july and plenty of room to add more hard working and dedicated players to fill the roster. snow is building the future NOW, not destroying it. cheers. :cheers:

nice read. :)
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Comrie's agent was quoted as saying Guerin and Comrie talked to each other about coming to the Islanders. Comrie wants a one year deal to legtimize himself as a first line center:

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After learning of the Guerin signing, Winter said he expected negotiations for Comrie to continue tonight. Comrie is prepared to accept a one-year contract, Winter said, “for the opportunity to establish himself as a first-line center.” Landing Guerin, he added, makes it a more attractive destination for Comrie because “he would have a 35-goal scorer on the wing to pass the puck to.”


http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/hockey/i...mrie_close.html
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