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Aug 13 2010, 12:03 PM
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http://www.hockeyjournal.com/news/2010/08/13_islanders.php
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Islanders' Snow is a man with a plan
by Stan Fischler
Perceptibly, the New York Islanders are rolling in the right direction under the stewardship of general manager Garth Snow (Wrentham, Mass.), a former star at the University of Maine. His latest move, the acquisition of Ducks defenseman James Wisniewski, is one of the better trades of summer.
Does anyone remember the circumstances around Snow’s hiring four years ago? He stepped into the role after being the Isles’ back-up goalie. Since then, as GM, he has laid out a plan for the Islanders’ future.
In an interview with TFR’s Aaron Whiteman, Snow offers some input about his roles and his club since taking the helm, and sounds off on other topics:
He was forced to lay out that "plan" after the previous plans failed and Wang refused to spend money on free agents as ALL "hockey" decisions are run by the megalomaniac owner.
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* Your support system:
The one thing I’ve benefited from is having good people around me. Any difficult task is made easier if you have solid people around you, and in this regard I’ve been very fortunate to have people like that.
Then please explai about these "good people", give us some effing details ya bastid like Jankowski, Trottier etc and why these good people are no longer here. Otherewise this article is a shill piece even though it's from Stan Fischler.
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* Your biggest surprises since becoming GM:
As a player, you don’t appreciate how much time and effort it takes for the GM and his staff to make things run smoothly. I’m referring to the coordination of travel, and dealing with hotel and charter arrangements.
Manager of hockey administration Joanne Holewa, who has been in this position for many years, brings a wealth of experience that helps quite a bit. Kerry Gwydir, my personal assistant, has a large responsibility as well. He is in charge of coordinating training camps and mini-camps.
There’s a lot of effort and time put into planning day-to-day activities such as ice times, or coordinating flights for 50 players.
No Islanders hockey fan gives a rats arse about this info vs so much other info but I guess this was his answer.
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* Different aspects of the job from when you started to now:
The one thing I have more of an appreciation for is that this is a 24/7 job, and not a situation where the season ends and you go on vacation until training camp. It can get to the point where often it’s busier in the offseason than during the regular season.
The job is something you have to have a passion for, or else you’re not really going to like it. I love what I do, and I love coming to the office every day, whether it’s in January or August. It’s been a great opportunity for me. It’s a lot of work, but a lot of fun too.
I'm sure it's not fun when he has to read the criticism he gets.
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* Mastering the CBA:
I don’t know if it’d be safe to say that anyone’s really mastered the CBA! It’s a situation where you just go into it every day and learn things from the decisions you make.
It’s not like there’s just one guy who sits at his desk and reads the CBA all day, and runs the show from there. There are several people responsible for this and we’re all cognizant of the rules and regulations contained within the CBA. Situations may arise, whether they’re in-season or during the offseason, and the CBA really serves as our guideline on how to do things.
Mastered the CBA???? What CBA? Cheap Bastid Administration?
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* Your difficulties in making the transition from teammate to boss:
It would’ve been a lot more difficult if I hadn’t had such a great cast around me. The members of my staff don’t get the credit they deserve, and much like any NHL team — or, in this case, a business — if you don’t have a great supporting cast, it makes the task that much more difficult.
One aspect that was an eye opener for me from being a hockey player was how much cost was involved in running an NHL franchise.
Bask to "supporting cast"???? WTF? Great acting. Give us something of substance.
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* Most fun part of the job:
There are a few things that are right up there when it comes to getting satisfaction out of being a GM. When the team has had success and you have a good victory, that’s always a satisfying and gratifying moment.
The three other situations that make it fun are the draft, the trade deadline and July 1. It’s a pretty exciting experience to be at the draft table with some brilliant minds and members of my staff who have worked so hard over 12 months to get to that point.
The trade deadline is a moment where the adrenaline gets flowing, from both sides of the ledger. Whether we’re adding a player or moving players to acquire draft picks, one way or the other it’s a way of building your team.
Of course, when July 1 comes around, you’re in a position where you’re building your team for next season, and that’s exciting.
On the ice, seeing a player whom no one else believed can succeed — but does — is always a delight.
Success from a victory? What else can he say here. NO playoffs, hence no playoff series wins. "Brilliant minds"??? Why is Jankowski gone Mr. Snow??? Wasn't he at your draft table?
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* Not so fun part of the job:
Sometimes the administrative part of the job isn’t fun. There are things you have to do on a day-to-day basis that can get tedious.
From a playing standpoint, while we don’t expect to win every game, losing always leaves a bitter taste.
You don't expect to win every game? Shouldn't you set you standards higher? I always thought professionals EXPECT and prepare to win before each game?
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* Taking John Tavares over Victor Hedman Matt Duchene (in the 2009 NHL draft):
Those other guys — Hedman and Duchene — have proven to be great kids, and great players. But for me, the situation with John was more personal. When I had the chance to watch Tavares play in juniors and have him come to Long Islandand stay with my family at my house, I got an opportunity to see what he was like as a person.
He’s been as advertised, having performed very well in his rookie season. He’s a high-character kid, and we’re very fortunate to have him on the Islanders.
No argument there whatsoever.
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* The fans:
I’m not too involved. What I will say is that we have a very passionate fan base. It’s always fun for me, whether it’s at a fan open house or a team event, or if I’m walking the concourse to get to my seat, to see the passion of our fan base. As such, they deserve a new building to call home as much as we do.
Sorry for being so negative on you Mr. Snow.
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* Reorganizing the team you inherited:
It started a few years ago when we had an open house with season ticket holders and fans, and we laid out a plan of how we would build this team in taking the necessary steps to being a contender, and giving ourselves the best chances of winning a Stanley Cup: drafting wisely, developing players correctly, sprinkling in the right free agents, and making timely trades to get us to where we want to be -- that will help us achieve our ultimate goal of being a consistent Cup contender.
"sprinkling in the right free agents" translates into CHEAP additions.
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* Your stance on long-term (life) contracts:
With the situations we’ve had, I can only speak for our long-term deals. We make a decision in the best interests of our organization, and take a hard look at players. We consider them part of our family, and at the end of the day, I make decisions in the best interests of the organization.
Copout. DP is family? Yes, but the contract and his inability to play is ruining the family.
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* Chances of a significant turnaround in the Isles’ near future:
There’s an excellent chance of that. Looking at the players we’ve drafted such as Tavares, Kyle Okposo (and) Josh Bailey and in developing those players, we’ve also restocked the shelves of our prospect pool, whether that’s in Bridgeport (AHL), NCAA colleges or Europe.
We’ve had success with Mark Streit and Matt Moulson from free agency, and right on down the line there’s a great feeling of where we’re going and how we’re getting there. We’re going to stick to our plan that we’ve implemented. We’ve made tremendous strides from just two seasons ago to last year, where we jumped 18 points in the standings — and with a younger team.
To make the next step, it’s up to us to get better this summer, to improve through strength and conditioning, good nutrition, sleeping habits and skill development. We feel really good about where we’re headed.
18 points higher BUT when you factor in the amount of injuries to everyday players from that year AND the better goaltending we had THIS past year, the difference isn't really that much in terms of the talent of both teams. We still SUCKED.
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*Competing in the Atlantic Division:
It’s certainly one of the toughest divisions, but the great thing about our league is that our team can win on any given night.
Obviously, being in a tough division is a challenge. But we cherish the rivalries we have, and overall, that’s great for the game.
Yes, again giving nothing.
Terrible interview by Stan. He got nothing. Love him. Great writer but methinks it's just a case of Snow not giving up much info.
Not much going on but I had to rip this article apart.
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On the ice, seeing a player whom no one else believed can succeed — but does — is always a delight.
MORE LIKE A FREAKING MIRACLE
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To make the next step, it’s up to us to get better this summer, to improve through strength and conditioning, good nutrition, sleeping habits and skill development.
EARLY TO BED AND EARLY TO RISE WILL MAKE THE ISLANDERS HEALTHY WEALTHY AND WISE
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It’s certainly one of the toughest divisions, but the great thing about our league is that our team can win on any given night.
AND IF WE CAN GET THAT 8TH SPOT LOTTERY TOURNY UP AND RUNNING GOOD TIMES THEY ARE A COMING
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Aug 13 2010, 03:50 PM
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Geeze, one would get the impression that you guys are upset with management.
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Less than half a month left for "Mr. August".
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Aug 16 2010, 11:27 AM
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- stevedepot,Aug 16 2010
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by sometime this week, weights contract will finally be again restructored, this time to fit in the salary of kovy's one year 10 mil contract...don't stop dreaming.
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Aug 16 2010, 11:32 AM
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- stevedepot,Aug 16 2010
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Less than half a month left for "Mr. August". :rofl: :rofl: :rolleyes: B)
by sometime this week, weights contract will finally be again restructored, this time to fit in the salary of kovy's one year 10 mil contract...don't stop dreaming.
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Steve I agree with everything except the DP issue. This team is so far away from max cap that four million isn't "ruining" the Islanders. If the Islanders were to tell DP to go away and take the four million hit, it has little impact on the franchise's future. Perhaps he can help KRod out with anger management this offseason?
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- stevedepot,Aug 16 2010
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Less than half a month left for "Mr. August". :rofl: :rofl: :rolleyes: B)
He's got his eyes and ears set on making this club better. Remember, he sent invitations to all FAs who don't have contract to join him and the Islanders at camp for tryouts.
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Puck Daddy says we're still going to suck this season
didn't think i needed to start a new thread being that this is Snow's team, afterall. Puck Daddy says we're still gonna suck...but so will the rangers.
I don't agree we'll be 14th. I have high expectations this season....I say 10th
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:lol: :lol: :lol: http://www.hockeyjournal.com/news/2010/08/13_islanders.php- Quote:
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Islanders' Snow is a man with a plan
by Stan Fischler
Perceptibly, the New York Islanders are rolling in the right direction under the stewardship of general manager Garth Snow (Wrentham, Mass.), a former star at the University of Maine. His latest move, the acquisition of Ducks defenseman James Wisniewski, is one of the better trades of summer.
Does anyone remember the circumstances around Snow’s hiring four years ago? He stepped into the role after being the Isles’ back-up goalie. Since then, as GM, he has laid out a plan for the Islanders’ future.
In an interview with TFR’s Aaron Whiteman, Snow offers some input about his roles and his club since taking the helm, and sounds off on other topics:
He was forced to lay out that "plan" after the previous plans failed and Wang refused to spend money on free agents as ALL "hockey" decisions are run by the megalomaniac owner. - Quote:
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* Your support system:
The one thing I’ve benefited from is having good people around me. Any difficult task is made easier if you have solid people around you, and in this regard I’ve been very fortunate to have people like that.
Then please explai about these "good people", give us some effing details ya bastid like Jankowski, Trottier etc and why these good people are no longer here. Otherewise this article is a shill piece even though it's from Stan Fischler. - Quote:
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* Your biggest surprises since becoming GM:
As a player, you don’t appreciate how much time and effort it takes for the GM and his staff to make things run smoothly. I’m referring to the coordination of travel, and dealing with hotel and charter arrangements.
Manager of hockey administration Joanne Holewa, who has been in this position for many years, brings a wealth of experience that helps quite a bit. Kerry Gwydir, my personal assistant, has a large responsibility as well. He is in charge of coordinating training camps and mini-camps.
There’s a lot of effort and time put into planning day-to-day activities such as ice times, or coordinating flights for 50 players.
No Islanders hockey fan gives a rats arse about this info vs so much other info but I guess this was his answer. - Quote:
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* Different aspects of the job from when you started to now:
The one thing I have more of an appreciation for is that this is a 24/7 job, and not a situation where the season ends and you go on vacation until training camp. It can get to the point where often it’s busier in the offseason than during the regular season.
The job is something you have to have a passion for, or else you’re not really going to like it. I love what I do, and I love coming to the office every day, whether it’s in January or August. It’s been a great opportunity for me. It’s a lot of work, but a lot of fun too.
I'm sure it's not fun when he has to read the criticism he gets. - Quote:
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* Mastering the CBA:
I don’t know if it’d be safe to say that anyone’s really mastered the CBA! It’s a situation where you just go into it every day and learn things from the decisions you make.
It’s not like there’s just one guy who sits at his desk and reads the CBA all day, and runs the show from there. There are several people responsible for this and we’re all cognizant of the rules and regulations contained within the CBA. Situations may arise, whether they’re in-season or during the offseason, and the CBA really serves as our guideline on how to do things.
Mastered the CBA???? What CBA? Cheap Bastid Administration? - Quote:
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* Your difficulties in making the transition from teammate to boss:
It would’ve been a lot more difficult if I hadn’t had such a great cast around me. The members of my staff don’t get the credit they deserve, and much like any NHL team — or, in this case, a business — if you don’t have a great supporting cast, it makes the task that much more difficult.
One aspect that was an eye opener for me from being a hockey player was how much cost was involved in running an NHL franchise.
Bask to "supporting cast"???? WTF? Great acting. Give us something of substance. - Quote:
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* Most fun part of the job:
There are a few things that are right up there when it comes to getting satisfaction out of being a GM. When the team has had success and you have a good victory, that’s always a satisfying and gratifying moment.
The three other situations that make it fun are the draft, the trade deadline and July 1. It’s a pretty exciting experience to be at the draft table with some brilliant minds and members of my staff who have worked so hard over 12 months to get to that point.
The trade deadline is a moment where the adrenaline gets flowing, from both sides of the ledger. Whether we’re adding a player or moving players to acquire draft picks, one way or the other it’s a way of building your team.
Of course, when July 1 comes around, you’re in a position where you’re building your team for next season, and that’s exciting.
On the ice, seeing a player whom no one else believed can succeed — but does — is always a delight.
Success from a victory? What else can he say here. NO playoffs, hence no playoff series wins. "Brilliant minds"??? Why is Jankowski gone Mr. Snow??? Wasn't he at your draft table? - Quote:
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* Not so fun part of the job:
Sometimes the administrative part of the job isn’t fun. There are things you have to do on a day-to-day basis that can get tedious.
From a playing standpoint, while we don’t expect to win every game, losing always leaves a bitter taste.  You don't expect to win every game? Shouldn't you set you standards higher? I always thought professionals EXPECT and prepare to win before each game? - Quote:
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* Taking John Tavares over Victor Hedman Matt Duchene (in the 2009 NHL draft):
Those other guys — Hedman and Duchene — have proven to be great kids, and great players. But for me, the situation with John was more personal. When I had the chance to watch Tavares play in juniors and have him come to Long Islandand stay with my family at my house, I got an opportunity to see what he was like as a person.
He’s been as advertised, having performed very well in his rookie season. He’s a high-character kid, and we’re very fortunate to have him on the Islanders.
No argument there whatsoever. - Quote:
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* The fans:
I’m not too involved. What I will say is that we have a very passionate fan base. It’s always fun for me, whether it’s at a fan open house or a team event, or if I’m walking the concourse to get to my seat, to see the passion of our fan base. As such, they deserve a new building to call home as much as we do.
Sorry for being so negative on you Mr. Snow. - Quote:
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* Reorganizing the team you inherited:
It started a few years ago when we had an open house with season ticket holders and fans, and we laid out a plan of how we would build this team in taking the necessary steps to being a contender, and giving ourselves the best chances of winning a Stanley Cup: drafting wisely, developing players correctly, sprinkling in the right free agents, and making timely trades to get us to where we want to be -- that will help us achieve our ultimate goal of being a consistent Cup contender.
"sprinkling in the right free agents" translates into CHEAP additions. - Quote:
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* Your stance on long-term (life) contracts:
With the situations we’ve had, I can only speak for our long-term deals. We make a decision in the best interests of our organization, and take a hard look at players. We consider them part of our family, and at the end of the day, I make decisions in the best interests of the organization.
Copout. DP is family? Yes, but the contract and his inability to play is ruining the family. - Quote:
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* Chances of a significant turnaround in the Isles’ near future:
There’s an excellent chance of that. Looking at the players we’ve drafted such as Tavares, Kyle Okposo (and) Josh Bailey and in developing those players, we’ve also restocked the shelves of our prospect pool, whether that’s in Bridgeport (AHL), NCAA colleges or Europe.
We’ve had success with Mark Streit and Matt Moulson from free agency, and right on down the line there’s a great feeling of where we’re going and how we’re getting there. We’re going to stick to our plan that we’ve implemented. We’ve made tremendous strides from just two seasons ago to last year, where we jumped 18 points in the standings — and with a younger team.
To make the next step, it’s up to us to get better this summer, to improve through strength and conditioning, good nutrition, sleeping habits and skill development. We feel really good about where we’re headed.
18 points higher BUT when you factor in the amount of injuries to everyday players from that year AND the better goaltending we had THIS past year, the difference isn't really that much in terms of the talent of both teams. We still SUCKED. - Quote:
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*Competing in the Atlantic Division:
It’s certainly one of the toughest divisions, but the great thing about our league is that our team can win on any given night.
Obviously, being in a tough division is a challenge. But we cherish the rivalries we have, and overall, that’s great for the game.
Yes, again giving nothing. Terrible interview by Stan. He got nothing. Love him. Great writer but methinks it's just a case of Snow not giving up much info. Not much going on but I had to rip this article apart.
all he talks about is his staff and what they do. How about telling us what you do...Garth?
What a waste!!!
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Aug 19 2010, 08:20 AM
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- oldislesfan,Aug 13 2010
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Geeze, one would get the impression that you guys are upset with management.
:rolleyes:
I guess there's so much to be happy with regarding their decisions, right? :lol:
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- Shooter,Aug 19 2010
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Geeze, one would get the impression that you guys are upset with management.
:rolleyes:
I guess there's so much to be happy with regarding their decisions, right? :lol:
its just real embarrassing.. this organization is one of the biggest jokes around.. lets go back in time after 84 .. if the team was rebuilt the right way and we were competitive all along with a few losing year instead of the opposite where would we be?? we woulda had a new building by now and a loyal fan base that sells the new building out night after night...
i love the draft this year.. but im just tired of waiting.. its time to spend some money to get some talent to help the kids develop .. the way we are going the kids will never reach their true potential... some will be good ... but maybe they should be special.. and great with the right guys around them who then can help develop the new kids we would get...
it just seems so simple to pull off... other teams do it.. with less fans and less money.. why cant we? this is ny.. sure its long island but winning teams steal fans locally.. im sure in the late 70s early 80s for every ranger fan there was an islander fan... with all the losing i cant imagine that to be true today... time for a resurgence !! spend some money god damn it!!!!
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Aug 19 2010, 01:53 PM
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Oh gee, their not doing things the way I want them to.
Boo Hoo.
just because they're in the NHL doesn't mean they know what they're doing, but we sure as hell know what to do.
Sorry M i B, but during the late 70's and early 80's I didn't see any ranger converts, just a lot of fighting in the stands.
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read the first paragraph again. it was not written by stan. It was written by one of his interns.
But I'm sure you don't really care because you already got the jist of your ire out anyway.
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- 7th Woman,Aug 19 2010
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read the first paragraph again. it was not written by stan. It was written by one of his interns.
But I'm sure you don't really care because you already got the jist of your ire out anyway.

The GIST of my "ire" is with Snow, not Stan. Was published by Stan but thank you for pointing that out that the questions were not his.
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GUESS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TITLED
Islanders' Snow is a man with a plan
for Stan Fischler
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- oldislesfan,Aug 19 2010
- 01:53 PM
Oh gee, their not doing things the way I want them to. Boo Hoo. just because they're in the NHL doesn't mean they know what they're doing, but we sure as hell know what to do. Sorry M i B, but during the late 70's and early 80's I didn't see any ranger converts, just a lot of fighting in the stands.
not talking about converts... talking about new fans... plenty of people became islander fans over ranger fans because of the success... who in their right mind would choose to cheer for the isles now? its just basically dads forcing their kids to root for the islanders now.... and that is a sin because ur basically forcing a team that stinks with no hope anywhere on the horizon on to your child..
and as far as boohooing, every thread on this board ends up with boohooing... the team is one big boohoo... and we just keep eating the sh!t sandwiches they feed us....
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HELLO BROOKLYN, MY NAME IS JOHN TAVARES
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Aug 20 2010, 06:20 PM
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Bring back...PRIDE OF THE ISLAND
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- Man in the Box,Aug 20 2010
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- oldislesfan,Aug 19 2010
- 01:53 PM
Oh gee, their not doing things the way I want them to. Boo Hoo. just because they're in the NHL doesn't mean they know what they're doing, but we sure as hell know what to do. Sorry M i B, but during the late 70's and early 80's I didn't see any ranger converts, just a lot of fighting in the stands.
not talking about converts... talking about new fans... plenty of people became islander fans over ranger fans because of the success... who in their right mind would choose to cheer for the isles now? its just basically dads forcing their kids to root for the islanders now.... and that is a sin because ur basically forcing a team that stinks with no hope anywhere on the horizon on to your child.. and as far as boohooing, every thread on this board ends up with boohooing... the team is one big boohoo... and we just keep eating the sh!t sandwiches they feed us....
I wouldn't want force my kid to be a fan...(that is if I had one).
there ain't no boohooing here. the islanders are the proud owners of being a dynasty. Not many can say that.
and soon there will be another dynasty from the new core group.
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Today Is A Great Day To Be An Islander Fan! Live For The Moment!
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Shooter
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Aug 20 2010, 07:20 PM
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All Star
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- 4CUPZ,Aug 19 2010
- 03:36 PM
GUESS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TITLED
Islanders' Snow is a man with a plan
for Stan Fischler
by Aaron Whiteman
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