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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 16 2011, 08:05 AM (3,504 Views) | |
| MMingE | Jan 16 2011, 08:05 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...-play-1.2613509
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| stevedepot | Jan 16 2011, 08:18 AM Post #2 |
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The sad thing about this Newsday article is that moderate to non hockey fans (be they Isles fans or not) will read that and assume Wang IS actually losing as much as he is when we know full well it's a complete crock of horsespit. Sell the team, we can no longer dream. |
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| 25yearfan | Jan 16 2011, 08:32 AM Post #3 |
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You can call me Joe.
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There goes that hard-hitting investigative reporting at Newsday again. They're probably trying to figure out how to create a whole newspaper out of repurposed press releases. |
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
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| 4CUPZ | Jan 16 2011, 08:58 AM Post #4 |
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WHAT CAN BE SAID THAT HASNT BEEN SAID ALREADY PAUL MARTIN PAUL FREAKING MARTIN THEY USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE WAS HE GOING TO BE THE SAVIOR??? AND HERE IS JUST A GUESS WHEN TEAM MARTIN SAID
I'M PRETTY SURE HE/THEY WERE MEANING THE BRAINTRUST THAT WORKS THEIR MAGIC AT THE COLISEUM MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIM THAT A "LOUNGE"WAS ON ITS WAY I'M SURE THAT WOULD HAVE TURNED THE TIDE IN THEIR FAVOR HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT "THE PLAYERS LOUNGE"? "CHARLES SPENT $250,000 ON THE PLAYERS" WELL SEEING THE GREAT IMPROVEMENT IT HAS BROUGHT THEM MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE DONATED TO HIS ISLANDERS CHILDRENS FOUNDATION INSTEAD OF EVERY DAY LOOKING TO THE FEW FANS LEFT AND ASKING FOR THEIR LAST DROPS OF BLOOD |
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| Jackace | Jan 16 2011, 09:29 AM Post #5 |
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It is notable to add that apparently Snow did make an offer to Martin which many on here suspected was BS by Snow to prove something to the fan base AND that the Coliseum was a consideration for rejecting the proposal. Just saying. |
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| rst033 | Jan 16 2011, 09:40 AM Post #6 |
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does anyone see allot of contradictions in this article? Wang is losing money but spends another $250k on a locker room The team is rebuilding but a nameless big time free agent didn't want sign here because of the arena and took less money from another team Either/green light the Lighthouse project or the Islanders are gone no mention of the TV deal the islanders have the best in the NHL and the reason why people don't show up anymore is because the team sucks-not the arena how expensive it is to go watch the Islanders play....100 bucks a pop for tickets??? a family of 4: $400 parking the car $5 get something to eat another 50 also a majority of NHL teams make their money when??? in the playoffs Newsday protects the fact that Tom Suozzi delayed the LH project as much as he could for propaganda purpose and Newsday conveniently blames a republican Kate Murray for the Islanders leaving Charles WAng was asked to buy the team so he could keep it on LI out of the goodness in his heart but since they won't allow him to rape the taxpayer and over develop the area I guess the Islanders are just going to have to move booo hooo sucks for you Islander fans. Charles WAng is a typical Chinese exploiter rape rape rape take take take pollute the earth burn and destroy what you can just for a dollar these are the same people who made baby formula with poison so they could get rich |
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| THEDRIVE4FIVE | Jan 16 2011, 10:39 AM Post #7 |
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IMPEACH MURRAY!!!!! |
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| rst033 | Jan 16 2011, 11:03 AM Post #8 |
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FOR WHAT? stopping corporate welfare? Wang and his business partners get rich the Islanders still move and we the tax payers get the bill the traffic and a new slum |
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| Webb20 | Jan 16 2011, 12:06 PM Post #9 |
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This article sounds like it was initiated by Mr. Dolan. Isles playing well, let's run our monthly article on how poor a franchise they have over there and plaster it on Page 1. That should squash any recent hopes of Islander fans. Next month we'll get a similar article. It's not to say that most of this is true, but it is also well known and documented and didn't need a front page story to tell us attendance sucks, our team is lost and out of it, our building is old, and our team is poorly run. Newsday just likes to make sure we don't forget. |
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I sold it all, retired and moved to Fabulous Las Vegas! "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Ben Franklin "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."-Ronald Reagan | |
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| OlTimeHockey | Jan 16 2011, 12:26 PM Post #10 |
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10 years. $200M spent by Wang. $22M per year comes from Cable, a sole and separate asset. I wonder how he has the money to keep the team afloat? Could it be the $200++++ million from cable over that time? This infomercial brought to you by Charles Wang.
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| OlTimeHockey | Jan 16 2011, 12:29 PM Post #11 |
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Second best. The Laffes own their own network, though. And yes, Chuck has no scruples when he's making money. Just look at the "Who's Who In Prison" list Forbes publishes (or should).
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS "But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann 查理斯 · 請死你混蛋 | |
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| Dr. Generosity | Jan 16 2011, 12:34 PM Post #12 |
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Put the Cup Back in Our Lobby Where It Belongs
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Right on! This "news" article is a g-ddamned disgrace. Where is the "news"? There are no facts in this article that are not at least six month old. What makes this article particularly disappointing is that Newsday's work on this article was well known in advance, and a good number of fans had some hope that it would bring some new facts to the table, and possibly present a balanced picture that not only points blame at Wang and the Coliseum, but explores the TOH's role in this process. Supposedly Newsday is the Island's paper, with a wealth of TOH contacts. But does the local angle really factor in here? No, it's all old stuff, and they quote some far-away player agent and a college professor in Massachusetts, for chrissake. This article has "stomp on the burning embers of the Islanders franchise" written all over it. Articles like this in respectable media outlets are usually accompanied by an inconspicuous notice that the media outlet in question is owned by a major competitor of the business criticized in the article. I don't bother with paying Newsday for access to its content, so perhaps such a disclaimer appeared on the website, but it's not here, and I doubt it's there. One last word, and it's directly at a self-important fan who offered up fun quotes in this article. I don't know if you read this board, but this is the board I post on, and I would like to say the following: You're entitled to your opinions, and to get your name in the paper if you like. And perhaps your comments to Newsday were more nuanced than they've reported. But it sure looks like you've offered yourself up as The Model Fan Who Has Decided to Walk Away from the Team. And all I can say, Art, is don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. I haven't given up hope, I won't until the moving vans are full. And if and when we get a new arena, I'll look forward to you offering up better quotes. And lest you think that I'm some brave Internet Tough Guy who's dishing out hits behind a pseudonym, my name is Josh Millard, you may recall my contributions to Dave Strauss' Isles-List way back in the day, and if you want to respond, feel free to post here or IM me. I'm not hard to find...even if I don't get my name in the paper. |
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| Shooter | Jan 16 2011, 02:37 PM Post #13 |
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There's a reason why Newsday's circulation has dwindled. Part internet, part nonsense that appears on its pages. Paul Martin? LMAO. The best thing that can ever happen is the Snapple guy buying the Islanders and we can be rid of El Cheapo and his excuses, including the over inflated losses he puts out there. We already know from a Forbes article that it's a few million and not the 20 million the kool aid drinkers put out there. |
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| Webb20 | Jan 16 2011, 02:49 PM Post #14 |
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Doc, I agree, this article was pretty much prefabricated with selective sources for a specific view. To me this is the Dolan empire's standard recruiting practice. Every few months, if there are new people who might be interested in hockey we'll make sure they pick the Rangers as their team by showing what a loser you'd be if you were an Isles fan. There certainly was an agenda behind this article. |
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I sold it all, retired and moved to Fabulous Las Vegas! "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Ben Franklin "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."-Ronald Reagan | |
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| gdprof27 | Jan 16 2011, 03:30 PM Post #15 |
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Slow news day (no pun intended) on the Island? Someone on vacation? This was just filler. |
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| THEDRIVE4FIVE | Jan 16 2011, 03:47 PM Post #16 |
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Cop killer caught after manhunt...Congresswoman making an amazing recovery after being shot in the head...they could have put something else on the cover |
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| Dr. Generosity | Jan 16 2011, 04:01 PM Post #17 |
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This was on the cover?!? Of what, the sports section? Surely not the entire Sunday newspaper.
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| MCIVOR16 | Jan 16 2011, 04:06 PM Post #18 |
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empty seats, maybe the cause. or just |
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IT'S A LONG WAY TO THE TOP (IF YOU WANNA ROCK N ROLL) if you want blood ( you've got it) | |
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| THEDRIVE4FIVE | Jan 16 2011, 04:11 PM Post #19 |
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Yes, the entire paper. I just looked. It has a picture of DP all bentover from above. |
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| Webb20 | Jan 16 2011, 04:18 PM Post #20 |
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Cover, Inside cover and the next 2 pages after that. The first 4 pages of Sunday's Newsday. [dohtml]<img src='http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.2613657.1295155105!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/mugshot_171/image.jpg' width=300>[/dohtml] |
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I sold it all, retired and moved to Fabulous Las Vegas! "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Ben Franklin "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."-Ronald Reagan | |
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