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Islanders on thin ice: Old arena, weak play
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Topic Started: Jan 16 2011, 08:05 AM (3,505 Views)
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OlTimeHockey
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Feb 17 2011, 01:44 PM
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I'm a former accountant/analyst and I'm not sure how anyone on this baord can definitively say how much wang has profited or lost with the hockey operation side of his business without seeing his annuals and filings. If you are going solely by Forbes valuations you would need to see what information the NHL had handed over to them on their behalf. And I would assume that the NHL submits numbers that makes them look far more dire to the league to help their position in a CBA. But unless you are privy to the real numbers you are merely speculating what you feel...which doesn't make it true.
If anyone has Wangs Isles' operation's numbers I would love to take a look at it for my own curiosity.
I'm sure Charles Wang would gladly offer you his REAL set of books for your evaluation.
Careful with those books.....   (Ira Zar and others are not on Yahoo photos)
Its better than making sh!t up and pawning it off as the truth.
So you're saying he's lost $20M+ each year but Forbes numbers were right this past one when he only lost $4.5M?
PM me and tell me what parts to agree with in the future.
Or were you talking about the articles regarding CA or other tidbits I always provided links for (from legit sources)? I'll ask if the WSJ is right via PM in the future as well.
Right now, tell me what I made up. This will give me a chance to write the papers/magazines I sourced and give them hell, Killer.
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS
"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann
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Jackace
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Feb 17 2011, 06:31 PM
Post #122
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- OlTimeHockey,Feb 17 2011
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- stevedepot,Feb 15 2011
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- Jackace,Feb 15 2011
- 04:56 PM
I'm a former accountant/analyst and I'm not sure how anyone on this baord can definitively say how much wang has profited or lost with the hockey operation side of his business without seeing his annuals and filings. If you are going solely by Forbes valuations you would need to see what information the NHL had handed over to them on their behalf. And I would assume that the NHL submits numbers that makes them look far more dire to the league to help their position in a CBA. But unless you are privy to the real numbers you are merely speculating what you feel...which doesn't make it true.
If anyone has Wangs Isles' operation's numbers I would love to take a look at it for my own curiosity.
I'm sure Charles Wang would gladly offer you his REAL set of books for your evaluation.
Careful with those books.....   (Ira Zar and others are not on Yahoo photos)
Its better than making sh!t up and pawning it off as the truth.
So you're saying he's lost $20M+ each year but Forbes numbers were right this past one when he only lost $4.5M? PM me and tell me what parts to agree with in the future. Or were you talking about the articles regarding CA or other tidbits I always provided links for (from legit sources)? I'll ask if the WSJ is right via PM in the future as well. Right now, tell me what I made up. This will give me a chance to write the papers/magazines I sourced and give them hell, Killer.
I dont know what wang lost and neither do you. The difference is, toolbag, you state speculation as gospel, whereas I dont. I use to be in the finance industry, but you are telling me you know more about unpublished financials through articles on the web than I do? Show me a 10k report and I will make a post on what I think Wang is reporting...KILLER. Otherwise, I will assume anything published about his financial state is reported through an angle.
Everyone knows your slant on Wang and nothing, facts be damned, will get in the way of your feelings. It is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Just dont expect me to go along with your false premise because you say so.
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LEDZEP
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Feb 17 2011, 06:44 PM
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- Jackace,Feb 17 2011
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- stevedepot,Feb 15 2011
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- Jackace,Feb 15 2011
- 04:56 PM
I'm a former accountant/analyst and I'm not sure how anyone on this baord can definitively say how much wang has profited or lost with the hockey operation side of his business without seeing his annuals and filings. If you are going solely by Forbes valuations you would need to see what information the NHL had handed over to them on their behalf. And I would assume that the NHL submits numbers that makes them look far more dire to the league to help their position in a CBA. But unless you are privy to the real numbers you are merely speculating what you feel...which doesn't make it true.
If anyone has Wangs Isles' operation's numbers I would love to take a look at it for my own curiosity.
I'm sure Charles Wang would gladly offer you his REAL set of books for your evaluation.
Careful with those books.....   (Ira Zar and others are not on Yahoo photos)
Its better than making sh!t up and pawning it off as the truth.
So you're saying he's lost $20M+ each year but Forbes numbers were right this past one when he only lost $4.5M? PM me and tell me what parts to agree with in the future. Or were you talking about the articles regarding CA or other tidbits I always provided links for (from legit sources)? I'll ask if the WSJ is right via PM in the future as well. Right now, tell me what I made up. This will give me a chance to write the papers/magazines I sourced and give them hell, Killer.
I dont know what wang lost and neither do you. The difference is, toolbag, you state speculation as gospel, whereas I dont. I use to be in the finance industry, but you are telling me you know more about unpublished financials through articles on the web than I do? Show me a 10k report and I will make a post on what I think Wang is reporting...KILLER. Otherwise, I will assume anything published about his financial state is reported through an angle. Everyone knows your slant on Wang and nothing, facts be damned, will get in the way of your feelings. It is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Just dont expect me to go along with your false premise because you say so. 
go along with his false premise if he say's so...............................
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OlTimeHockey
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Feb 18 2011, 04:32 AM
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- Jackace,Feb 17 2011
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- OlTimeHockey,Feb 17 2011
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- OlTimeHockey,Feb 16 2011
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- stevedepot,Feb 15 2011
- 07:48 PM
- Jackace,Feb 15 2011
- 04:56 PM
I'm a former accountant/analyst and I'm not sure how anyone on this baord can definitively say how much wang has profited or lost with the hockey operation side of his business without seeing his annuals and filings. If you are going solely by Forbes valuations you would need to see what information the NHL had handed over to them on their behalf. And I would assume that the NHL submits numbers that makes them look far more dire to the league to help their position in a CBA. But unless you are privy to the real numbers you are merely speculating what you feel...which doesn't make it true.
If anyone has Wangs Isles' operation's numbers I would love to take a look at it for my own curiosity.
I'm sure Charles Wang would gladly offer you his REAL set of books for your evaluation.
Careful with those books.....   (Ira Zar and others are not on Yahoo photos)
Its better than making sh!t up and pawning it off as the truth.
So you're saying he's lost $20M+ each year but Forbes numbers were right this past one when he only lost $4.5M? PM me and tell me what parts to agree with in the future. Or were you talking about the articles regarding CA or other tidbits I always provided links for (from legit sources)? I'll ask if the WSJ is right via PM in the future as well. Right now, tell me what I made up. This will give me a chance to write the papers/magazines I sourced and give them hell, Killer.
I dont know what wang lost and neither do you. The difference is, toolbag, you state speculation as gospel, whereas I dont. I use to be in the finance industry, but you are telling me you know more about unpublished financials through articles on the web than I do? Show me a 10k report and I will make a post on what I think Wang is reporting...KILLER. Otherwise, I will assume anything published about his financial state is reported through an angle. Everyone knows your slant on Wang and nothing, facts be damned, will get in the way of your feelings. It is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Just dont expect me to go along with your false premise because you say so.
Toolbag?
You are seriously a petulant child. Several posts crying over this.
Sally Struthers has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your accounting. Only your hatred can destroy me.
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS
"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann
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stevedepot
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Feb 18 2011, 09:25 AM
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killer, toolbag, petulant child...
Aretha Franklin song is a must listen. Please guys. Attack the message without the attacking the poster.
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OlTimeHockey
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Feb 18 2011, 01:40 PM
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- stevedepot,Feb 18 2011
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killer, toolbag, petulant child...
Aretha Franklin song is a must listen. Please guys. Attack the message without the attacking the poster.
No word on using George Lucas to bring his accounting to the dark side?
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"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS
"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann
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