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Where we go from here; Pros and Cons of the whiteout
Topic Started: Feb 27 2011, 01:14 AM (689 Views)
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That a was a great game 6 too!


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WHERE WE GO FROM HERE???

ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE WEARING WHITE DURING A WHITE OUT :dontknow:

That was the darkest whiteout ever.


I repeat, these things don't work here. Playoffs, promoted or not, NY is not a white out, orange out place. Didn't work in '93 playoffs, won't work now. Fanbase is too fragmented to mobilize. Internet fans and message boards make up maybe 5% of total fan base.




........sweet child o mine.


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It worked in the 2002 playoffs, so it is possible. But the thing is the fanbase was the most energized I've ever seen it that year. Sold out more than half the home games, had a team that could win on any given night, had blue collar players that the fanbase could love (Webb, Lapointe, Peca, Cairns), made the playoffs for the first time in 7 years. But the most important thing?

Our record was 42-28-8 for 96 points, finished a point out of first place, 5th in the conference. We didn't finish 8th, we didn't get in by the hair on our ass, we had a strong regular season and finished with our best regular season since the 1983-84 season. And that wasn't a "new NHL" 96 points either, that was the old NHL where there were no 3 point games.

This shouldn't be about sneaking in as an 8th seed and maybe pull out a 1st round upset. This should be about winning 45+ hockey games from October-April and then doing damage in the playoffs. You do that, the fans will be here. This organization has only given their fans one chance since the 1983-84 season to really get excited during the regular season. Even 1992-93 we had to make a late run just to get into the playoffs before we had that memorable playoff run.

This organization needs to give the fanbase a chance to show up.

I was there in 2002 and it wasn't that white at all. They started 11-1-1 and went .500 the rest of the way. Cheap tix fueled most of the sellouts as much as the record did. I never got the feeling they'd beat Toronto but I did have the feeling they'd beat the Caps in '93 and they did. And still the place was half orange.

This isn't Duke or NC hoops. It doesn't work here or for the Devils or Rag$. I went to a NJD-Carolina playoff series where they handed out WEAR WHITE T-shirts and nobody wore them. NY/NJ don't play that gimmick crap.

I'm sorry, but the 2002 playoffs it was a white out, and it did work. Go look at the film if you have to. I was there also, I had season tickets. I was at all three playoff games. Go on youtube and find any game highlights you want from that playoff year. Most of the crowd was wearing white, and it was requested by the team that everyone wore white.

As far as the cheap tickets go, those were the Islanders normal prices. They weren't running all of these promotions like they're running now. They had ticket prices appropriate of a team that was coming off a 30th place finish that season. The next season they raised prices, and had their highest season ticket base in years. They flushed it down the toilet on the ice though and lost all of that.

Nope. Grey not white. I wore my blue TROTTIER jersey to game 3 & 4 and my black Center Ice jersey to game 6. I really had a blackout Scorpions. So did many others.

Nope. Wang went on record as in that year he purposely kept tix low to get the fans back and everyone knew he'd raise them the following year which he did.

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That a was a great game 6 too!


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I see a lot of grey matter in between. Not completely white.

Game 3 was the loudest I've been at since the Cup in '83. Louder than game 6.

Was at all 3.
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stevedepot,Feb 28 2011
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That a was a great game 6 too!


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I see a lot of grey matter in between. Not completely white.

Game 3 was the loudest I've been at since the Cup in '83. Louder than game 6.

Was at all 3.

All the gray matter you see is all of the gray Islander jerseys that people were wearing. Used to love those gray jerseys :blink:

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Nope. Wang went on record as in that year he purposely kept tix low to get the fans back and everyone knew he'd raise them the following year which he did.



Isn't that what I said? That their ticket prices were low because they finished 30th the year before? Pretty sure that's EXACTLY what I said.
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That a was a great game 6 too!


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I see a lot of grey matter in between. Not completely white.

Game 3 was the loudest I've been at since the Cup in '83. Louder than game 6.

Was at all 3.

All the gray matter you see is all of the gray Islander jerseys that people were wearing. Used to love those gray jerseys :blink:

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Nope. Wang went on record as in that year he purposely kept tix low to get the fans back and everyone knew he'd raise them the following year which he did.



Isn't that what I said? That their ticket prices were low because they finished 30th the year before? Pretty sure that's EXACTLY what I said.

Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood. A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%

Why would they be running tix discounts like now? They weren't bottom 5 then. I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record. Capiche? See the difference?

The infamous attendance chart out there shows that.

This ain't NCAA.
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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood. A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%

Why would they be running tix discounts like now? They weren't bottom 5 then. I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record. Capiche? See the difference?

The infamous attendance chart out there shows that.

This ain't NCAA.

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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%


Highly doubt that any white out, red out, orange out had 100% of the people wearing the same color. Impossible when you have 16,000-20,000 people going to games. The point is to get the majority of the people in the same color.

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Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.


They weren't running ticket discounts then. As I'm now saying for the THIRD time, the 2000-01 season they had the worst record in the NHL. Because of that, ticket prices for the 2001-02 season were kept low. Understand?

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I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?


If they weren't winning games, the building would have been empty no matter what the prices were. They would have been going on eight straight years missing the playoffs. So no, I don't see the difference.
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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%

Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.  I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?

The infamous attendance chart out there shows that.

This ain't NCAA.

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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%


Highly doubt that any white out, red out, orange out had 100% of the people wearing the same color. Impossible when you have 16,000-20,000 people going to games. The point is to get the majority of the people in the same color.

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Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.


They weren't running ticket discounts then. As I'm now saying for the THIRD time, the 2000-01 season they had the worst record in the NHL. Because of that, ticket prices for the 2001-02 season were kept low. Understand?

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I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?


If they weren't winning games, the building would have been empty no matter what the prices were. They would have been going on eight straight years missing the playoffs. So no, I don't see the difference.

Copout per the whiteout. And not even 80%.


They bought Osgood, Peca & Yashin. AND kept tix low. Big difference. Understand?


In 2001-2002 people wanted to get normalcy back after 9/11 and do something and a .500 team after a great start was enhanced by low tix prices.
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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%

Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.  I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?

The infamous attendance chart out there shows that.

This ain't NCAA.

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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%


Highly doubt that any white out, red out, orange out had 100% of the people wearing the same color. Impossible when you have 16,000-20,000 people going to games. The point is to get the majority of the people in the same color.

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Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.


They weren't running ticket discounts then. As I'm now saying for the THIRD time, the 2000-01 season they had the worst record in the NHL. Because of that, ticket prices for the 2001-02 season were kept low. Understand?

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I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?


If they weren't winning games, the building would have been empty no matter what the prices were. They would have been going on eight straight years missing the playoffs. So no, I don't see the difference.

Copout per the whiteout. And not even 80%.


They bought Osgood, Peca & Yashin. AND kept tix low. Big difference. Understand?


In 2001-2002 people wanted to get normalcy back after 9/11 and do something and a .500 team after a great started was enhanced by low tix prices.

Wow man you're really going to stoop low enough to bring up 9/11 to try and prove your point? You win :thumbsup:
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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%

Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.  I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?

The infamous attendance chart out there shows that.

This ain't NCAA.

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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%


Highly doubt that any white out, red out, orange out had 100% of the people wearing the same color. Impossible when you have 16,000-20,000 people going to games. The point is to get the majority of the people in the same color.

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Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.


They weren't running ticket discounts then. As I'm now saying for the THIRD time, the 2000-01 season they had the worst record in the NHL. Because of that, ticket prices for the 2001-02 season were kept low. Understand?

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I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?


If they weren't winning games, the building would have been empty no matter what the prices were. They would have been going on eight straight years missing the playoffs. So no, I don't see the difference.

Copout per the whiteout. And not even 80%.


They bought Osgood, Peca & Yashin. AND kept tix low. Big difference. Understand?


In 2001-2002 people wanted to get normalcy back after 9/11 and do something and a .500 team after a great started was enhanced by low tix prices.

Wow man you're really going to stoop low enough to bring up 9/11 to try and prove your point? You win :thumbsup:

No stooping. If you were there on Opening Night vs. Detroit that was the dominating theme and it carried through the early part of the season. NYI fans responded to low tix prices as much as an OK record as their attendance history proves.
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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%

Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.  I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?

The infamous attendance chart out there shows that.

This ain't NCAA.

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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%


Highly doubt that any white out, red out, orange out had 100% of the people wearing the same color. Impossible when you have 16,000-20,000 people going to games. The point is to get the majority of the people in the same color.

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Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.


They weren't running ticket discounts then. As I'm now saying for the THIRD time, the 2000-01 season they had the worst record in the NHL. Because of that, ticket prices for the 2001-02 season were kept low. Understand?

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I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?


If they weren't winning games, the building would have been empty no matter what the prices were. They would have been going on eight straight years missing the playoffs. So no, I don't see the difference.

Copout per the whiteout. And not even 80%.


They bought Osgood, Peca & Yashin. AND kept tix low. Big difference. Understand?


In 2001-2002 people wanted to get normalcy back after 9/11 and do something and a .500 team after a great started was enhanced by low tix prices.

Wow man you're really going to stoop low enough to bring up 9/11 to try and prove your point? You win :thumbsup:

No stooping. If you were there on Opening Night vs. Detroit that was the dominating theme and it carried through the early part of the season. NYI fans responded to low tix prices as much as an OK record as their attendance history proves.

I was there :thumbsup:

And it wasn't just an OK record, it was the only time since their last Cup appearance that they've had more than 92 points in a season. Must have been a coincidence :thumbsup:
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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%

Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.  I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?

The infamous attendance chart out there shows that.

This ain't NCAA.

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Grey Seal - Elton, in a musical mood.  A white out only works when it's 100% not 70%


Highly doubt that any white out, red out, orange out had 100% of the people wearing the same color. Impossible when you have 16,000-20,000 people going to games. The point is to get the majority of the people in the same color.

Quote:
 
Why would they be running tix discounts like now?  They weren't bottom 5 then.


They weren't running ticket discounts then. As I'm now saying for the THIRD time, the 2000-01 season they had the worst record in the NHL. Because of that, ticket prices for the 2001-02 season were kept low. Understand?

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I said the reason for the good attendance was because of the low tix prices in 2001-2002 as much as the record.  Capiche?  See the difference?


If they weren't winning games, the building would have been empty no matter what the prices were. They would have been going on eight straight years missing the playoffs. So no, I don't see the difference.

Copout per the whiteout. And not even 80%.


They bought Osgood, Peca & Yashin. AND kept tix low. Big difference. Understand?


In 2001-2002 people wanted to get normalcy back after 9/11 and do something and a .500 team after a great started was enhanced by low tix prices.

Wow man you're really going to stoop low enough to bring up 9/11 to try and prove your point? You win :thumbsup:

No stooping. If you were there on Opening Night vs. Detroit that was the dominating theme and it carried through the early part of the season. NYI fans responded to low tix prices as much as an OK record as their attendance history proves.

I was there :thumbsup:

And it wasn't just an OK record, it was the only time since their last Cup appearance that they've had more than 92 points in a season. Must have been a coincidence :thumbsup:

.500 after starting 11-1-1. Not earth shattering except by NYI standards. If your logic is true then NYI fans are only frontrunners and bandwagoners eh? :thumbsup: No the low tix meant nothing. :rolleyes:
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