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PA Parenteau; Signed to 1 year deal
Topic Started: Feb 17 2011, 11:18 AM (1,763 Views)
OlTimeHockey
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If we had a good GM, Frans gets value back (his defense and two way game are solid; our team never develops players so his scoring is lacking, voted second most underrated) and I can see Comeau and someone like Hunter going in a trade for a good player much like Scatchard and Muckalt (and Weekes) went for Potvin (a trade we won big).

But we would need a good GM; picks are useless and scraps are worse so Garf Garf can't pull this off.
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rst033,Feb 19 2011
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4CUPZ,Feb 19 2011
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Islander4cups,Feb 19 2011
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We can't just package crap together- gervais, schremp, & comeau, frans and expect quality in return.  Do the garbage men leave prizes when they pick up your trash?  If so I need to move into your neighborhood?

THIS HAS TO BE THE POST OF THE DAY :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

you never know one man's garbage is another man's treasure

isles got cap space/you want to dump a salary? isles give this and get that

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4CUPZ,Feb 19 2011
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Islander4cups,Feb 19 2011
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We can't just package crap together- gervais, schremp, & comeau, frans and expect quality in return.  Do the garbage men leave prizes when they pick up your trash?  If so I need to move into your neighborhood?

THIS HAS TO BE THE POST OF THE DAY :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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01:24 PM
Differ all you want, but Grabner (3rd line winger/PKer/Speedster) is Bergie's replacement, and a fine replacement at that.

It worked out that way, which is a definite upgrade. I was just pointing out how much we missed Bergy on the forecheck and PK through much of the season.
If Garth knew he was getting Grabner, letting Bergie go was a great move. I wonder if he knows which number to play, I need to hit Lotto.
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bumpkin,Feb 21 2011
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Webb20,Feb 18 2011
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Differ all you want, but Grabner (3rd line winger/PKer/Speedster) is Bergie's replacement, and a fine replacement at that.

It worked out that way, which is a definite upgrade. I was just pointing out how much we missed Bergy on the forecheck and PK through much of the season.
If Garth knew he was getting Grabner, letting Bergie go was a great move. I wonder if he knows which number to play, I need to hit Lotto.

Even Garth can hit the round hole with the round peg once in awhile.

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i know people have mixed feelings of pa, but i really think he has a spot on this team. he opens up ice for tavares and creates chances in a strange way I think tavares may need him more then anybody else they could put on his line.

For all his troubles he is 3rd on the team in points and respectable -6. He played well today against the devils.

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OlTimeHockey,Feb 19 2011
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If we had a good GM, Frans gets value back (his defense and two way game are solid; our team never develops players so his scoring is lacking, voted second most underrated) and I can see Comeau and someone like Hunter going in a trade for a good player much like Scatchard and Muckalt (and Weekes) went for Potvin (a trade we won big).

But we would need a good GM; picks are useless and scraps are worse so Garf Garf can't pull this off.

Frans' two way game sucks. Gimme a break. I'm so fed up with people overvaluing his abilities. Look at his inability to even get a body on OV in the OT the other night.

Yeah, OV is OV, but Frans was undressed THREE TIMES on that one play, and never once tried to put a body on OV. Instead, he tried lame pokechecks when hitting OV with his purse failed.

He has limited offensive instincts. I see this clown at the blueline when KO or Grabner has the puck in deep instead of going to the high slot...so we have two guys down low and essentially 3 dman across the blueline. Great.

There is a reason why Garth didn't get a good offer for Frans. He's a bum. He's too soft to be a defensive center and couldn't score if he was Charlie Sheen's wingman. Believe me, I wish he had value because I trade his arse for a bag of pucks right now.
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OlTimeHockey,Feb 19 2011
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If we had a good GM, Frans gets value back (his defense and two way game are solid; our team never develops players so his scoring is lacking, voted second most underrated) and I can see Comeau and someone like Hunter going in a trade for a good player much like Scatchard and Muckalt (and Weekes) went for Potvin (a trade we won big).

But we would need a good GM; picks are useless and scraps are worse so Garf Garf can't pull this off.

Frans' two way game sucks. Gimme a break. I'm so fed up with people overvaluing his abilities. Look at his inability to even get a body on OV in the OT the other night.

Yeah, OV is OV, but Frans was undressed THREE TIMES on that one play, and never once tried to put a body on OV. Instead, he tried lame pokechecks when hitting OV with his purse failed.

He has limited offensive instincts. I see this clown at the blueline when KO or Grabner has the puck in deep instead of going to the high slot...so we have two guys down low and essentially 3 dman across the blueline. Great.

There is a reason why Garth didn't get a good offer for Frans. He's a bum. He's too soft to be a defensive center and couldn't score if he was Charlie Sheen's wingman. Believe me, I wish he had value because I trade his arse for a bag of pucks right now.

Funny, I think he's been taking his game up a notch lately. He's got more speed then ever, and is approaching pre Mottau confidence. You can't blame him on the Ovechkin goal. It could have happened to anyone.
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OlTimeHockey,Feb 19 2011
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If we had a good GM, Frans gets value back (his defense and two way game are solid; our team never develops players so his scoring is lacking, voted second most underrated) and I can see Comeau and someone like Hunter going in a trade for a good player much like Scatchard and Muckalt (and Weekes) went for Potvin (a trade we won big).

But we would need a good GM; picks are useless and scraps are worse so Garf Garf can't pull this off.

Frans' two way game sucks. Gimme a break. I'm so fed up with people overvaluing his abilities. Look at his inability to even get a body on OV in the OT the other night.

Yeah, OV is OV, but Frans was undressed THREE TIMES on that one play, and never once tried to put a body on OV. Instead, he tried lame pokechecks when hitting OV with his purse failed.

He has limited offensive instincts. I see this clown at the blueline when KO or Grabner has the puck in deep instead of going to the high slot...so we have two guys down low and essentially 3 dman across the blueline. Great.

There is a reason why Garth didn't get a good offer for Frans. He's a bum. He's too soft to be a defensive center and couldn't score if he was Charlie Sheen's wingman. Believe me, I wish he had value because I trade his arse for a bag of pucks right now.

NHL players agree with me, though.....voted #2 most underrated player by players at the ASS break.
"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS

"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann

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Franz has been one of our best forwards over the last 10 games. Comeau, who always has the late season surge to tease us, also has played well. Things change as the season goes on, but Franz Nielsen, IF he can play like this for a whole season, is a very valuable part of the mix needed in today's NHL. Undressed by OV? He's not the first nor the last to have that happen.

As for PA, he has played very well for us. Is he a first line wing? Probably not, but he can certainly fill third line duties.

I think a lot has changed, opinion wise, about this team over the past month and a half.

Bailey? From the Bridge to being visible. he has more to go for sure, but he has his confidence back.
Franz? You won't get value back and he will be missed next year.
Comeau? As usual, he has the late season surge but he has been playing decent hockey (I would like to see less floating, but he can put it in when he tries).

As for the rest, the debate can continue.
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Frans Nielsen has played great. I don't know what player you're looking at I4C, but he's a very stablizing force, in our zone. He calmly gains control of the puck and moves it smoothly from one zone to the other. Does he have a great shot, no, but his vision of the ice has improved remarkably. He's a threat shorthanded, he our only SO guy that can be counted on, he's a +8 on this team with the assignment of covering the other teams top foward. What more do you want our of your second or third line foward?

I'm glad we have him.
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Frans Nielsen has played great. I don't know what player you're looking at I4C, but he's a very stablizing force, in our zone. He calmly gains control of the puck and moves it smoothly from one zone to the other. Does he have a great shot, no, but his vision of the ice has improved remarkably. He's a threat shorthanded, he our only SO guy that can be counted on, he's a +8 on this team with the assignment of covering the other teams top foward. What more do you want our of your second or third line foward?

I'm glad we have him.

Couldn't have said it bettter, Nick.
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Franz has been one of our best forwards over the last 10 games. Comeau, who always has the late season surge to tease us, also has played well. Things change as the season goes on, but Franz Nielsen, IF he can play like this for a whole season, is a very valuable part of the mix needed in today's NHL. Undressed by OV? He's not the first nor the last to have that happen.

As for PA, he has played very well for us. Is he a first line wing? Probably not, but he can certainly fill third line duties.

I think a lot has changed, opinion wise, about this team over the past month and a half.

Bailey? From the Bridge to being visible. he has more to go for sure, but he has his confidence back.
Franz? You won't get value back and he will be missed next year.
Comeau? As usual, he has the late season surge but he has been playing decent hockey (I would like to see less floating, but he can put it in when he tries).

As for the rest, the debate can continue.

he is not a first line guy, that is true, but your first line doesnt have to be made up of your three most talented players at all, so putting him with Tavares (at least with the current crew we have) makes sense to me. Its all about chemistry.

In fact for considerably less money he helps get the best out of JT (I think) and makes our second and third line respectable as well.

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OlTimeHockey,Mar 7 2011
02:26 AM
Islander4cups,Mar 6 2011
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OlTimeHockey,Feb 19 2011
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If we had a good GM, Frans gets value back (his defense and two way game are solid; our team never develops players so his scoring is lacking, voted second most underrated) and I can see Comeau and someone like Hunter going in a trade for a good player much like Scatchard and Muckalt (and Weekes) went for Potvin (a trade we won big).

But we would need a good GM; picks are useless and scraps are worse so Garf Garf can't pull this off.

Frans' two way game sucks. Gimme a break. I'm so fed up with people overvaluing his abilities. Look at his inability to even get a body on OV in the OT the other night.

Yeah, OV is OV, but Frans was undressed THREE TIMES on that one play, and never once tried to put a body on OV. Instead, he tried lame pokechecks when hitting OV with his purse failed.

He has limited offensive instincts. I see this clown at the blueline when KO or Grabner has the puck in deep instead of going to the high slot...so we have two guys down low and essentially 3 dman across the blueline. Great.

There is a reason why Garth didn't get a good offer for Frans. He's a bum. He's too soft to be a defensive center and couldn't score if he was Charlie Sheen's wingman. Believe me, I wish he had value because I trade his arse for a bag of pucks right now.

NHL players agree with me, though.....voted #2 most underrated player by players at the ASS break.

I4C, you gotta get over that play. It was one play of the season which of course stood out, but ovechkin got him spinning, off balance and made him look bad. He may not be having a banner year but that guy is all world and makes lots of players look bad.
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Football analogy:

1 deep threat - double covered
2 deep threats - TD.

Need another guy on the top line. Moulson picks up the garbage, JT is starting to make plays. PA...eh, doing alright, but doesn't take pressure off.
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Football analogy:

1 deep threat - double covered
2 deep threats - TD.

Need another guy on the top line. Moulson picks up the garbage, JT is starting to make plays. PA...eh, doing alright, but doesn't take pressure off.

Good analogy.

maybe add another good offensive defensemen and bring back streit and you start to get there.
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rifleman22,Mar 7 2011
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Frans Nielsen has played great.  I don't know what player you're looking at I4C, but he's a very stablizing force, in our zone.  He calmly gains control of the puck and moves it smoothly from one zone to the other.  Does he have a great shot, no, but his vision of the ice has improved remarkably.  He's a threat shorthanded, he our only SO guy that can be counted on, he's a +8 on this team with the assignment of covering the other teams top foward.  What more do you want our of your second or third line foward?

I'm glad we have him.

Couldn't have said it bettter, Nick.

Franzie is one of my favorite players.

Some players, when they have the puck, can cause me a heart attack (Gervais, for example). Other players like AMac, JT and Franzie, I never have to worry about them. They always do the smart and safe play - without panic.

Can he improve? Sure, he needs to bury his chances. He only has 8-9 goals, that is unacceptable for him. The Rangers' Prust has 10 goals, for God's sake. Franzie is better than that, IMO.

Otherwise, he creates chances for teammates, is a great PK'er, wins faceoffs, and is a shootout dynamo. What's not to like? Ovie made him look bad, yes. But, as mentioned above, Franzie is not the 1st nor the last to be in that category.
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tsharaf,Mar 7 2011
09:33 AM
rifleman22,Mar 7 2011
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Webb20,Mar 7 2011
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Frans Nielsen has played great.  I don't know what player you're looking at I4C, but he's a very stablizing force, in our zone.   He calmly gains control of the puck and moves it smoothly from one zone to the other.   Does he have a great shot, no, but his vision of the ice has improved remarkably.   He's a threat shorthanded, he our only SO guy that can be counted on, he's a +8 on this team with the assignment of covering the other teams top foward.  What more do you want our of your second or third line foward?

I'm glad we have him.

Couldn't have said it bettter, Nick.

Franzie is one of my favorite players.

Some players, when they have the puck, can cause me a heart attack (Gervais, for example). Other players like AMac, JT and Franzie, I never have to worry about them. They always do the smart and safe play - without panic.

Can he improve? Sure, he needs to bury his chances. He only has 8-9 goals, that is unacceptable for him. The Rangers' Prust has 10 goals, for God's sake. Franzie is better than that, IMO.

Otherwise, he creates chances for teammates, is a great PK'er, wins faceoffs, and is a shootout dynamo. What's not to like? Ovie made him look bad, yes. But, as mentioned above, Franzie is not the 1st nor the last to be in that category.

T..........Franzie is more of a good passer than a goal scorer..........and is a very good skater.

His shot however aint gonna bowl anyone over.
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I usually agree with alot of posts from I4C but on this occasion I couldn't be more on the opposite, I think Franz has been one of our best forwards this year, hes a perfect 3rd line centre if and when Bailey can blossom into the 2nd line centre we all hope he can, but as it stands right now, between Grabner and KO, I wouldnt take him out of there for nobody, and like i said on the Blues gameday, as of right now, he is ahead of Bailey for me.

He's plus 8 on a team that has been outscored by 30+ goals at even strength, that should tell you alot about the guy and his qualities

Voted 2nd by NHL PLAYERS as the most under-rated in the ENTIRE league at the All Star weekend, and even the NHL recognises how well he's done on a defensively poor team.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=554949

I really really like the guy!
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great article. :yes:
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