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keep Radek?
Topic Started: Apr 2 2011, 06:55 AM (605 Views)
rst033
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I know Martinek is a player that keeps on getting hurt etc but when he's on the ice and healthy he's pretty solid. The team does need some vets on the team & IMO would rather have Martinek then Eaton and Mattou I say let's keep Radek! :yes:
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rst033,Apr 2 2011
06:55 AM
I know Martinek is a player that keeps on getting hurt etc but when he's on the ice and healthy he's pretty solid. The team does need some vets on the team & IMO would rather have Martinek then Eaton and Mattou I say let's keep Radek! :yes:

NO. Wish him luck. But anytime he goes into the corner he could be done for the season. It's time the Islanders find some defensemen who aren't injury proned -- competent ones at that.
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Shooter,Apr 2 2011
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rst033,Apr 2 2011
06:55 AM
I know Martinek is a player that keeps on getting hurt etc but when he's on the ice and healthy he's pretty solid. The team does need some vets on the team & IMO would rather have Martinek then Eaton and Mattou I say let's keep Radek!  :yes:

NO. Wish him luck. But anytime he goes into the corner he could be done for the season. It's time the Islanders find some defensemen who aren't injury proned -- competent ones at that.

Agreed. As much as I respect his play when healthy, the Isles should move on without him and fill his position with someone equally solid without the injury bug. Best of luck to you Radek...now get out!
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Radek goes nowhere.......... :torrey:
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But when he is in the lineup he's reliable and usually one of our best. And look at that last line of his quote at the top of the page. He is Islander thru and thru. I'd offer him another year. Probably would want 3 years, but I'd certainly give him another year until we know what our D will look like with young players coming up over the next season or two.

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Would be a shame to dump him in a "rebuild" year without getting anything from a trade partner - I don't recall exactly, but I think he was injured around the deadline.

Can they do an incentive contract based on games played / some other way to hedge injury (other than just planning to bring up half a dozen AHL guys a year).
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I'd sign him for 2 or 3 years if he would accept a reasonable deal. There won't be any salary cap problems as far as being over the cap, and if he signs for an amount fair to the Islanders, it won't hurt as much if he is injured and could be very tradeable should he play well and stay off the IR. If he plays well like he can, then he is an asset.

He has the right to go out and get the most money as a UFA so he needs to do what is best for him and his family. I don't believe he'll be blown away by offers but you never know.
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They can make a contract say anything, but they wouldn't do that to a 33 year old vet like Radek. We know his history and if Garth offers him a contract it's understood what gamble we take, and it's the reason why Radek's price will remain pretty low for the type of player he is when he is healthy. Besides, if ever there was going to be a hometown discount it would apply here. I don't get the impression Martinek would feel too comfortable moving elsewhere after so many years, he's been an Islander his whole career and probably would want to just keep things the way they are.

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They can make a contract say anything, but they wouldn't do that to a 33 year old vet like Radek. We know his history and if Garth offers him a contract it's understood what gamble we take, and it's the reason why Radek's price will remain pretty low for the type of player he is when he is healthy. Besides, if ever there was going to be a hometown discount it would apply here. I don't get the impression Martinek would feel too comfortable moving elsewhere after so many years, he's been an Islander his whole career and probably would want to just keep things the way they are.

Agree with you 100%. Other than DP I think he's the only current Islander to play a playoff game as an Islander.... could be wrong though.
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We're coming out of the rebuild (don't trip, Rick!) (ok, now stand under the piano lift) and want a steady vet whose defense is solid, want Streit's offense and would like Eaton's back end play and have Brutal's spot to replace, Mottau's spot (he's not that good) and will look solid. Replace Radek with a kid and we're delusional fannies after the same pipedream we've been in since 1994.

He has no chronic injuries, just bad luck injuries. This year he proved he can play a full season even with an injury (he had one short injury).

The team should be about QUALITY and BUILDING QUALITY so unless there's a 3rd defenseman better we can only get by unloading a quality CHEAP defenseman, he stays. If we get a top four guy....Radek is still valuable. Getting rid of him is only a childish response to injury fears.

So if Streit missed a season and gets hurt next year in an unrelated injury, what of him? Hamonic?

You fear injuries but plan on depth. Rick is a CHONIC injury machine. We avoid that. Weight is done....we avoid that. Radek's injuries are all different and based on luck, not an ongoing condition. So what if he plays five more years without incident? It's a gamble, but worth it. He's smart and contributes handily in all three zones and is part of the team's glue.
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Totally take him back for a 1-2yr deal and pencil him as the 6th Dman....if he gets hurt someone can step up but I'm not ready to put Ty, Reese or any other of the Bridgeport fodder. Let DeHann and Davidson earn a spot with thier play in the AHL before giving them an NHL spot. If you want to take the next step you can't keep hoping for 20yrs olds to overachieve.

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Now if you can get a top 3 Dman...via FA or trade then dump Martinek or keep him around as the 7th Dman and buy out Mottu.
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After a few nice offensive plays against the Rangers, I knew this thread was coming. I have always liked Radek as a player. But let's not turn him into Kenny Jonsson or anything close to it. On any other team in the league he would have been a very good 3rd pairing defenseman. He had a few years here where he was much more than that, but those days are gone. 23, 66, 47, 74, 43, 69, 51, 16, 60. Those are his games played each season of his career. You CANNOT give him a roster spot next season. Because if you do, you automatically have to also figure out who is going to replace the 30 games he misses, and that makes you a worse team. I like Radek, he was a nice player for us, but time to go.
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i think not resigning him is a mistake.,. its hard enough to get a free agent to come here.. if he wants to stay add him.. when he plays hes one of our better defensemen... if we can sign a couple d men that are better than him fine.. but i dont see that happening...
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They can make a contract say anything, but they wouldn't do that to a 33 year old vet like Radek.  We know his history and if Garth offers him a contract it's understood what gamble we take, and it's the reason why Radek's price will remain pretty low for the type of player he is when he is healthy.  Besides, if ever there was going to be a hometown discount it would apply here.  I don't get the impression Martinek would feel too comfortable moving elsewhere after so many years, he's been an Islander his whole career and probably would want to just keep things the way they are.

Agree with you 100%. Other than DP I think he's the only current Islander to play a playoff game as an Islander.... could be wrong though.
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you forgot about Hunter. He is still current........sort of.
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BSutter21,Apr 2 2011
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SniperGod22,Apr 2 2011
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They can make a contract say anything, but they wouldn't do that to a 33 year old vet like Radek.   We know his history and if Garth offers him a contract it's understood what gamble we take, and it's the reason why Radek's price will remain pretty low for the type of player he is when he is healthy.   Besides, if ever there was going to be a hometown discount it would apply here.   I don't get the impression Martinek would feel too comfortable moving elsewhere after so many years, he's been an Islander his whole career and probably would want to just keep things the way they are.

Agree with you 100%. Other than DP I think he's the only current Islander to play a playoff game as an Islander.... could be wrong though.
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you forgot about Hunter. He is still current........sort of.

You are right. Totally forgot about Hunter. Easy to do.


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SniperGod22,Apr 2 2011
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Webb20,Apr 2 2011
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They can make a contract say anything, but they wouldn't do that to a 33 year old vet like Radek.  We know his history and if Garth offers him a contract it's understood what gamble we take, and it's the reason why Radek's price will remain pretty low for the type of player he is when he is healthy.  Besides, if ever there was going to be a hometown discount it would apply here.  I don't get the impression Martinek would feel too comfortable moving elsewhere after so many years, he's been an Islander his whole career and probably would want to just keep things the way they are.

Agree with you 100%. Other than DP I think he's the only current Islander to play a playoff game as an Islander.... could be wrong though.
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I would not be opposed to signing him to a 1-2 year dea at a reasonable pricel because no matter who we have on this team, we are going to need a TON of depth on our d due to injuries. Besides, at best we will add deHaan at some point and who else next season???

He's a serviceable dman when healthy and can be a 6th dman on a team. The problem comes if you are expecting him to step in and play top 4 minutes. That is a no no.
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its ridiculous not to keep him. he is a solid player and who gives a crap what they pay him?, its not like he can command a huge salary, and even if he does, its not like we are struggling to stay under the cap. yeah the guy has had injuries and some bad ones, but he is a loyal Islander and has been his entire career. a lot of you don't give him any respect at all! its shameful
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Snowman39,Apr 2 2011
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After a few nice offensive plays against the Rangers, I knew this thread was coming. I have always liked Radek as a player. But let's not turn him into Kenny Jonsson or anything close to it. On any other team in the league he would have been a very good 3rd pairing defenseman. He had a few years here where he was much more than that, but those days are gone. 23, 66, 47, 74, 43, 69, 51, 16, 60. Those are his games played each season of his career. You CANNOT give him a roster spot next season. Because if you do, you automatically have to also figure out who is going to replace the 30 games he misses, and that makes you a worse team. I like Radek, he was a nice player for us, but time to go.

Come on Snowy. That there is childish thinking. ;) You may need to grow up some. :hug:
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radek is not that good...it was him who allowed staal to get behind him for the go ahead goal against the canes...another game he kneels down on one knew and screens montoya...I expect plays like that done by brutal...not a veteran..



but, if the choice is bet. having a brutal and a radek next year, I'll take radek...but for one year, on a two way...if he wants two years then put a clause he has to play injury free..
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