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| LEDZEP | Apr 10 2011, 03:12 PM Post #1 |
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BREAKDOWN OF ISLANDER PLAYERS OFFENSE 1. Josh Bailey = 3 years in NHL - this year 28 points = bad to average at best 2. Blake Comeau = 5th year with Isles - this year his best year = bad to average at best 3. Trevor Gillies = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM 4. Michael Grabner = GOOD 1st year with Isles = even if it gets no better - it is OK 5. Micheal Haley = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM 6.Trent Hunter = 8 years with Isles = his days are numbered 7. Jesse Joensuu = bye bye 8. Zenon Konopka = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM 9. Matt Martin = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM 10. Matt Moulson = and he was not a number 1 pick = HE STAYS 11. Frans Nielsen = Good for shoot out = that is why he stays 12. Kyle Okposo = more hype then reality - still remember when he would not fight 13. PA Parenteau = out of know where and he does good = he stays 14. John Tavares = 2nd year numbers went up - but for a number 1 pick is not a well rounded player - sissy..? 15. Doug Weight = become an assistant coach now Michael Grabner - Matt Moulson - PA Parenteau - Kyle Okposo - John Tavares 5 OFFENSE players out of 15 the rest = bad to average at best --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- D MAN 1. Mark Eaton = 11 years in nhl = ...zzzzzzzzzzz 2. Bruno Gervais = 6 years with isles = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 3. Travis Hamonic = after 1 year = you have to keep him - at least for his enthusiasm 4. Jack Hillen = 4 years with isles = keep him you have nobody else to replace him any way 5. Milan Jurcina = needs extra band aids and stitches = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 6. Mark Katic = 11 games into career = ???????????????? 7. Andrew MacDonald = see Jack Hillen 8. Radek Martinek = 9 years with isles = contract up = he should stay = but he may be a goner 9. Mike Mottau = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 10. Dylan Reese = ???????????????????????????????????? 11. Shane Sims = Jon Sims younger brother = ................................... 12. Mark Streit = if he comes back healthy does that mean isles continue to make playoffs = .....? 13. Ty Wishart = ???????????????????????????? IF YOU LOOK ABOVE IT IS REAL THIN UP THERE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOALTENDERS 1. Rick DiPietro = biggest mistake in NY ISLANDER HISTORY If he had a normal contract he would have been a san jose shark 3 years ago 2. Al Montoya = nice run but is it real..????????????????????????? 3. Evgeni Nabokov = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM 4. Kevin Poulin = nice try then = snap crackle pop Rick DiPietro will be on this team but will repeat this year until contract is small enough for Wang to buy him out You have had 1975 to 1984 You have had 1990 to 1994 You have had 2001 to 2004.. 5? Then............................................. .............................................................. ......................................................................
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| dtonelli27 | Apr 10 2011, 04:34 PM Post #2 |
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What are you a Rags fan? I don't think anyone ranks them as tough as you do. Your right Hamonic is terrible and we should trade him |
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| nino10 | Apr 10 2011, 05:09 PM Post #3 |
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BREAKDOWN OF ISLANDER PLAYERS OFFENSE 1. Josh Bailey = MAJOR disappointment thus far. May let him walk after his current contracr if he does not step up. 2. Blake Comeau = 20+ is all you can ask for. Nice 3rd liner 3. Trevor Gillies = Useful deterent...little else. 4. Michael Grabner = Can't say enough good things! 5. Micheal Haley = Nice 4th line player 6.Trent Hunter = GOODBYE! 7. Jesse Joensuu = Hard to judge. Did not show much. 8. Zenon Konopka = STAYS! Guy loves being an Islander! Great emotional leader! 9. Matt Martin = Would like to see what he can do for a full season. 10. Matt Moulson = Showed last year was no fluke! 11. Frans Nielsen = Best 3rd line defensive player we had in a long time! 12. Kyle Okposo = I was VERY disappointed in Kyle this past year. I know he was hurt, but Okposo HAS to produce more! 13. PA Parenteau = Another nice pickup by Snow. Decent 2nd 3rd liner 14. John Tavares = Next year he gets his 30 goals....GUARENTEED! 15. Doug Weight = Should NOT have been resigned! D MAN 1. Mark Eaton = Incomplete due to injuries. 2. Bruno Gervais = HATE HIM! 3. Travis Hamonic = KEEPER! Expect BIG things from him and Dehaan in the future 4. Jack Hillen = Nice 6th or 7th man 5. Milan Jurcina = Plays a GREAT all around game. STAY HEALTHY MAN! 6. Mark Katic = MEH! 7. Andrew MacDonald = Another keeper! 8. Radek Martinek = Stayed realtivly injury free for once. Might let him walk. Would not be a terrible thing if he was retained 9. Mike Mottau = MEH! Does little things, but would not be missed 10. Dylan Reese = SEE YA! 11. Mark Streit = Our recoed showed how much he was missed. Should be named Captain. 13. Ty Wishart = Still young enough to become a full time NHLer. Nothing special though ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOALTENDERS 1. Rick DiPietro = Wish we could be rid of him once and for all! 2. Al Montoya = Would make a nice backup on a good team 3. Evgeni Nabokov = Hope the Isles toll his contract, and he starts next season 4. Kevin Poulin = Too soon. I feel he needs more time in the AHL |
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| rst033 | Apr 10 2011, 06:05 PM Post #4 |
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ever hear of throwing the baby out with the bad water analogy? what the Islanders need to figure out who is expendable and who has value-which I'm sure they already know. I know everyone wants to get more veterans everyone wants to sign ufa's blah blah blah same boring solution that ends in a 1st round exit and more rebuilding. done it, been their-does not work end of story. next years team adds more pieces to the puzzle hey if someone becomes available through waiver or a salary dump make the move but as an Islander fan until then stay the course the Islanders are build a core thats young and will only get better. who know when they move into a new building they'll be ready to win Cup #5! and it will be on LI |
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| BSutter21 | Apr 10 2011, 06:55 PM Post #5 |
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not that I expected much but you lost me after saying Grabner had a good first year and if he gets no better, it is ok. |
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| stevedepot | Apr 10 2011, 07:20 PM Post #6 |
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BREAKDOWN OF ISLANDER PLAYERS OFFENSE 1. Josh Bailey = Rushed. Center, WING, CENTER, 2nd line, 3rd line, minors, back up. Garth Snow's fault. 2. Blake Comeau = 24 goals and one of the biggest pussies in islanders history. 3. Trevor Gillies = 3 minutes per game. cannot skate and is a joke. Get lost 4. Michael Grabner = CORE player. 5. Micheal Haley = Should come back as 4th line reg. 6.Trent Hunter = Start playing taps. 7. Jesse Joensuu = Came on late with minimal icetime. One more camp fr either Bridgeport or trade chip. 8. Zenon Konopka = Tehy'd better bring him back. 9. Matt Martin = Rookie year, played through injuries and stood up for teamates with little icetime. 10. Matt Moulson = CORE player. 11. Frans Nielsen = Should be on 3rd line next year. 12. Kyle Okposo = CORE player. Poor offensive numbers after coming back from injury HOWEVER, his defensive game is BETTER. 13. PA Parenteau = Eh. Not a core guy but was one of the best playmakers this year. 14. John Tavares = CORE player. Little to no protection and he's using his strength better. 15. Doug Weight = Should have retired last year. D MAN 1. Mark Eaton = Get lost 2. Bruno Gervais = Put him in a food processor, mix him with cement and make him useful by filling potholes in parking lot. 3. Travis Hamonic = CORE player. 4. Jack Hillen = Should be in Bridgeport as a callup. 5. Milan Jurcina = Should be a 6th 7th. 6. Mark Katic = Sucks. 7. Andrew MacDonald = CORE player. 8. Radek Martinek = Bon voyage. Stay in Europe. 9. Mike Mottau = Can help with grit if healthy as a #6. 10. Dylan Reese = Get lost. 11. Mark Streit = CORE player. 13. Ty Wishart = No business playing in the NHL this year. Start him at the Bridge. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOALTENDERS 1. Rick DiPietro = Piece of poop, get lost. 2. Al Montoya = Should backup Nabakov if he reports 3. Evgeni Nabokov = Hope he rethinks and apologizes. 4. Kevin Poulin = The recurring knee dislocation (2nd time it's happened to him) is concerning. |
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| oldislesfan | Apr 10 2011, 07:48 PM Post #7 |
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Zep, you stir the pot better than anyone.
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| 3POTI | Apr 10 2011, 08:15 PM Post #8 |
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Bring back...PRIDE OF THE ISLAND
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breakdown of the islanders...uh, heres a breakdown..they all suck because they didn't make the playoffs...AGAIN..I really don't care about their stupid individual acts..because as a team..they SUCKED..big whoop..they played somewhat good later stages..WOW.. how exciting..until the owner the gm the coach and the players learn to start to be a great organization..all of the pr crap, and individual crap means nothing..lose as a team...win as a team.. THEY ALL SUCKED..AND THEY WILL SUCK AGAIN NEXT YEAR..UNLESS THEY MAKE THE DAMN PLAYOFFS..isn't that what its about? |
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| rifleman22 | Apr 10 2011, 08:30 PM Post #9 |
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I honestly think Zep and 3Poti are the same person, just different usernames. Rate the players? Zep, you should rename this thread RIP the players. Some of your "ratings" make no sense at all. And 3 Poti, yeah, making the playoffs is what it is all about. But we don't suck. There were quite a few things we can be happy about but all you say is WE SUCK. Then why do you bother watching? We sucked all year, no? We are on the right track, but it will take time. Now, the Rags made it, right? And they're gonna win the cup, right? Uhhh, no. They're gonna get their asses handed to them by the Caps. They SUCK. They squeaked in against a Devil team that didn't give a crap and the Canes sh!t the bed against the Bolts or they would be watching just like us. Point is making it doesn't make you NOT SUCK. Just watch the playoffs and you'll see what I mean. IF we had made it we could've made some noise. Why? Because we were playing well and playing like a team. We didn't make it but the effort from this team is something to be proud of. Just saying we suck because we didn't make the playoffs is pretty shallow, IMO. |
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| 3POTI | Apr 10 2011, 08:58 PM Post #10 |
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yep it is shallow rifle..and why I bothered to watch..I still wonder..and yeah, I will watch the playoffs..because those are the real games..the exciting ones..sorry, but I'm tired of the good effort crap from this team every year..tired of applauding the individual awards..I want a team in the friggen playoffs I can be proud of. right now, I can't be happy for tavaras almost getting 30 and his strong play in his second year..or moulson's back to back 30gs..or grabs, or for the first time in ages..team toughness..WHY??? because 16 fans teams are in the darn playoffs..and we are not..again..so I pout..and I will continue to pout right through it..watching another team raise Lord stanley..and it won't be..the islanders.. |
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| Snowy | Apr 10 2011, 10:51 PM Post #11 |
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The only thing I would take from Zep's ratings are that he got the players names correct. Whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinion. What I think is important is to figure out who is a core player and who isn't. I think Steve hit the nail on the head already with that one. I'll disagree about Comeau though, he did drop the gloves recently. He may not be fearless but I think calling him one of the biggest pussies in the league is a bit strong. He is what he is: a 25 year old who scored 24 goals this year. You can do a lot worse than that. Agreed about him not being a core player though. Anyway, Larry Brooks wrote today that the Islanders plan on buying out out more player contracts. Trent Hunter was the first name that came to mind, and then oddly enough I saw him at the train station today. DiPietro won't be bought out obviously. Not sure about anyone else, only player I would guess would be Eaton. First step of the offseason happens on Tuesday, hopefully we get lucky. |
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| Webb20 | Apr 11 2011, 08:54 AM Post #12 |
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BREAKDOWN OF ISLANDER PLAYERS OFFENSE 1. Josh Bailey = 3 years in NHL - this year 28 points = bad to average at best... agreed 2. Blake Comeau = 5th year with Isles - this year his best year = bad to average at best A good 3rd line player who can score, hit, and setup goals when motivated 3. Trevor Gillies = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM agreed 4. Michael Grabner = GOOD 1st year with Isles = even if it gets no better - it is OK agreed 5. Micheal Haley = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM sign this guy, Steve Webb type player, can inspire a team, but can also fight and show some offense...great 4th liner 6.Trent Hunter = 8 years with Isles = his days are numbered agreed...shouldn't even be considered when looking at the roster for next season 7. Jesse Joensuu = bye byegets another year to prove, showed some spark at the end of the season, too big to just discard right now 8. Zenon Konopka = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM huge vocal leader both in the lockerroom and to the media. Can take the heat for the club while sheltering the younger guys from it. Inspirational leader, sign him 9. Matt Martin = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM you are sick LED. This kid can play, is as tough as nails and will be the next Milan Lucic 10. Matt Moulson = and he was not a number 1 pick = HE STAYS agreed but we knew he'd stay as he's already signed 11. Frans Nielsen = Good for shoot out = that is why he stays many more reasons why he should stay other than the shootout. How about the only guy who can actually skate the puck out of our zone and up ice. And he can kill penalties if you've forgotten 12. Kyle Okposo = more hype then reality - still remember when he would not fight He'll need to show a hellava lot more next year, than just being tough along the boards. Another Trent Hunter is not needed, he needs to put up more points, otherwise he'll be playing with Comeau on the third line. 13. PA Parenteau = out of know where and he does good = he stays 1 year no more was about the most I can tolerate of his giveaway mastery 14. John Tavares = 2nd year numbers went up - but for a number 1 pick is not a well rounded player - sissy..? sissy no more, he really showed some toughness in the last few weeks, and obviously his hands and vision are tremendous. Give this guy a 10 year contract 15. Doug Weight = become an assistant coach now agreed --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- D MAN 1. Mark Eaton = 11 years in nhl = ...zzzzzzzzzzz agreed, buy him out 2. Bruno Gervais = 6 years with isles = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz agreed, say bye bye 3. Travis Hamonic = after 1 year = you have to keep him - at least for his enthusiasm Will be one of 4 Isles All star representatives next season. He's for real, and we've only just seen a small bit of the future for him with his play this year. He's the complete player, and a team player who tough and understands the entire game 4. Jack Hillen = 4 years with isles = keep him you have nobody else to replace him any way 6th D man can hold a spot until better comes along 5. Milan Jurcina = needs extra band aids and stitches = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz agreed 6. Mark Katic = 11 games into career = ???????????????? we will see alot more of this guy 7. Andrew MacDonald = see Jack Hillen no way. AMac is developing into a premiere Defensive Defenseman and will be this teams Kenny Jonsson for the next 8 years 8. Radek Martinek = 9 years with isles = contract up = he should stay = but he may be a goner agreed 9. Mike Mottau = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz agreed 10. Dylan Reese = ???????????????????????????????????? good call up in a pinch, not a full time NHLer, at least not yet 12. Mark Streit = if he comes back healthy does that mean isles continue to make playoffs = .....? we get a allstar back next season. It's like tapping the FA pool for us 13. Ty Wishart = ???????????????????????????? potential to be a 3-6 Dman ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOALTENDERS 1. Rick DiPietro = biggest mistake in NY ISLANDER HISTORY agreed, this is terminal cancer for any rebuild or growth for this team If he had a normal contract he would have been a san jose shark 3 years ago 2. Al Montoya = nice run but is it real..????????????????????????? steady, stable 3. Evgeni Nabokov = GET HIM OFF THE TEAM agreed 4. Kevin Poulin = nice try then = snap crackle pop we have to see if he can come back before we put the snap-crackle-pop label on him Rick DiPietro will be on this team but will repeat this year until contract is small enough for Wang to buy him out agreed, and that saddens me as an Islander fan that this contract will supersede what's actually good for the teams development |
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| oldislesfan | Apr 11 2011, 04:34 PM Post #13 |
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"I honestly think Zep and 3Poti are the same person, just different usernames" Rifle, I luv ya guy.
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| Snowy | Apr 11 2011, 04:52 PM Post #14 |
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| DiPi | Apr 11 2011, 05:26 PM Post #15 |
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I do not really know what everyone sees in Parenteau. If it was not for being on a line with Molson and JT his numbers would be even worse. Not to mention the many many many turn overs that could have been potential points for Molson and JT. I think it was the two that made him better as he made the two worse. Twenty goals on a top line with alot of powerplay time and that is all he has. JT set up a lot more goals than Parenteau. |
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| 25yearfan | Apr 11 2011, 06:01 PM Post #16 |
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Double meaning of "Breakdown of Islander Players" duly noted: Mark Streit - full season Kyle Okposo - most of season, not really the same afterward Doug Weight - big chunk of season Trent Hunter, etc. etc. etc. p.s. In the Technicality Schmecnicality category: Doesn't Nabokov have to be ON the team to get him OFF the team? |
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| 3POTI | Apr 11 2011, 06:38 PM Post #17 |
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considering this was pa's first full year being in the nhl as opposed to up and downs with the rags..I would give the benefit of the doubt..right now the team has nobody else..and beings since they have chemisty I wouldn't want to break it up..yeah, perhaps everyone is right, and he may drop down to a 3rd liner..But right now, he is a 1st liner on this team..have to make do.. I think next year will be a real test for him..to see if he can duplicate his performance..as for the turnovers..he is not the only turnover machine..one could say the whole team is a turnover machine.. the whole team needs to improve on team defense..JT def. showed improvement down the stretch on defense, but there was one game, I think it was the pitt game were he turn it over, and moulson was slow to get back on defense, allowed his man to get behind him..and they score... team defense needs improvement..commit to team defense..stay true to it the whole year..its starts with camp..actually it should start in the offseason after a few weeks..then when they do the individual training..they should also review tapes of great defensive players..or whatever. |
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| nino10 | Apr 11 2011, 09:04 PM Post #18 |
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Meh, I think you are giving JT and MM too much credit. They are good players, but they are not the type of players that make players around them better. |
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| Webb20 | Apr 11 2011, 09:55 PM Post #19 |
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Oh they made Parenteau better. You get real talent on that line and you'd see some real numbers. |
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| bumpkin | Apr 12 2011, 02:18 AM Post #20 |
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John Tavares is the kind of player who makes the guys around him better. How the heck do you think PA got 50 points? |
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