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Why we started this rebuild...; Look no further than our crosstown rival
Topic Started: Apr 21 2011, 03:23 PM (1,324 Views)
Lexhair
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I'll give the excuse makers some ammo.

1. I don't see any UFA defensemen available this summer that will either improve this team or consider signing here.
2. The injury to Andy Mac will result in a degraded defense for game 1.

With another top 5 pick coming who's going to get paid, I don't see the Isles signing a Bieksa or Erhoff for $3.5M+, especially since you've got Ty Wishart making $1.1M.

Keep in mind that Andy Mac is not even going to skate until August/September. If you're banking on Streit, Garff's rehab comments on him read like a reduxed version of Mr. Fifteen's rehab plan last year. There's a very real chance neither Streit nor Andy Mac will regain their pre-injury form this coming season.
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In the case of Streit, a shoulder is nothing like both knees and both hips ala DP. AMac may be a different story.
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Lexhair,Apr 28 2011
10:13 AM
I'll give the excuse makers some ammo.

1. I don't see any UFA defensemen available this summer that will either improve this team or consider signing here.
2. The injury to Andy Mac will result in a degraded defense for game 1.

With another top 5 pick coming who's going to get paid, I don't see the Isles signing a Bieksa or Erhoff for $3.5M+, especially since you've got Ty Wishart making $1.1M.

Keep in mind that Andy Mac is not even going to skate until August/September. If you're banking on Streit, Garff's rehab comments on him read like a reduxed version of Mr. Fifteen's rehab plan last year. There's a very real chance neither Streit nor Andy Mac will regain their pre-injury form this coming season.

Exactly.

And we forget Streit was not nearly as good year two as year one, so after year three's injury.....

Now add the Snow effect: Zenon is going (likely) and he was a major uniting presence in that lockerroom. Wang hates toughness and there have been whispers of others going (Haley?). Martinek is going (our most stable d-man), so it's not far fetched at all to expect our D being worse this year. It's quite likely it won't be improved.
"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS

"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann

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10:31 AM
In the case of Streit, a shoulder is nothing like both knees and both hips ala DP. AMac may be a different story.

Point taken. However, the Okposo excuse after his shoulder injury is quite acceptable apparently. Will it apply to Streit if it takes half a season for him to "shake the rust"?

Can/Should you go into a season with an already suspect defensive corps having questionable 1 and 2s?
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Lexhair,Apr 28 2011
11:46 AM
Webb20,Apr 28 2011
10:31 AM
In the case of Streit, a shoulder is nothing like both knees and both hips ala DP.  AMac may be a different story.

Point taken. However, the Okposo excuse after his shoulder injury is quite acceptable apparently. Will it apply to Streit if it takes half a season for him to "shake the rust"?

Can/Should you go into a season with an already suspect defensive corps having questionable 1 and 2s?

No, which is the exact reason why Snow should be proactive and prepare for that. But he won't. The bad GMs are the ones who are reactionary. The good ones are proactive.

Just like with your car:

When the check engine light comes on, you have some people who go to the repair shop the next day to get it checked out. Maybe you wind up paying a lesser price because you got whatever fixed before major damage could happen. ]

Then you have others who ignore it and drive around with the light on for three months until the car breaks down. Then those people will not only cry about their car breaking down, but will also cry about the expensive bill they get to have it fixed. Well, if you would have addressed the issue right away, you wouldn't be in that situation.

We'll see what Snow does this summer. I am not accepting any excuses from him.
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Snowman,Apr 28 2011
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Lexhair,Apr 28 2011
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Webb20,Apr 28 2011
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In the case of Streit, a shoulder is nothing like both knees and both hips ala DP.   AMac may be a different story.

Point taken. However, the Okposo excuse after his shoulder injury is quite acceptable apparently. Will it apply to Streit if it takes half a season for him to "shake the rust"?

Can/Should you go into a season with an already suspect defensive corps having questionable 1 and 2s?

No, which is the exact reason why Snow should be proactive and prepare for that. But he won't. The bad GMs are the ones who are reactionary. The good ones are proactive.

Just like with your car:

When the check engine light comes on, you have some people who go to the repair shop the next day to get it checked out. Maybe you wind up paying a lesser price because you got whatever fixed before major damage could happen. ]

Then you have others who ignore it and drive around with the light on for three months until the car breaks down. Then those people will not only cry about their car breaking down, but will also cry about the expensive bill they get to have it fixed. Well, if you would have addressed the issue right away, you wouldn't be in that situation.

We'll see what Snow does this summer. I am not accepting any excuses from him.

Excellent anology about our Peugot of a team.
"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS

"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann

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So glad Snowy's posting regularly again.

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The Moose,Apr 21 2011
08:25 PM
If we just invest MARGINALLY MORE than the dead weight coming off the books, we should upgrade the roster.

A top 6 forward and a #3 or #4 D should cost you $6.5 million total.

Try 8-9 mill a year
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Snowman,Apr 26 2011
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Lexhair,Apr 26 2011
02:33 PM
Finishing eighth and drafting in the middle of rounds is not a death sentence. Ranger fans are using that as a crutch.

Go take a look at the last eleven drafts by the Isles and tell me how many NHL players they got out of it, let alone guys who actually played for the Islanders. I don't really care where you draft but you've got to do better than Ryan O'Marra and Wes O'Neill.

The Isles fell apart after the 2005 season because their previous 4 years worth of draft picks (all rounds) blew chunks PLUS MM stood pat with his 2001-2002 core roster.

There are no quick fix UFA defensemen out there this summer. This team was 20 points out of a playoff spot this year. If you think they'll make that up with this same roster and the gimp squad defensemen (who weren't very good when they got hurt), I think you'll be back next year telling me how 2012-2013 is really the "make or break" year. And you'll mean it this time.

Ranger fans aren't using it as a crutch. In fact, Ranger fans feel that their prospects are equal to/better than the Islanders prospects. A bunch of horseshit if you ask me, but in speaking to many of them that's what they think. The point was that they are saying "all they need is scoring and they'll be set". The point was that its nearly impossible to find elite scoring in this league these days.


great point. Listening to Rangers fans is like listening to Knick fans say "All we needed is one elite talent like Melo and we'll contend"...

great call Knicks fans.

The Rangers don't have a SINGLE legit first line forward on their team...not even Gaborik. He's a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped up in the Euro attitude of "I'll play when I play".

So the Rangers will be stocked with 2nd & 3rd line talent...great. They will lose a tone of 2-1 games for the next half decade, then Queen Lundvist will be ready to retire without a single Vezina trophy or a single trip to the Conference finals.

then what?

All the Mets need are two more 40/40 bats...

All the Red Bulls need are some goal scorers...

All the Rangers need are fans with a clue... :thumbsup:
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I cannot believe how underrated that Ryan Callahan is.
He finished with close to 50 points in 60 games and he's still a youngster.

He's a budding star and a legit 1st liner if you ask me.
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stevedepot,May 1 2011
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I cannot believe how underrated that Ryan Callahan is.
He finished with close to 50 points in 60 games and he's still a youngster.

He's a budding star and a legit 1st liner if you ask me.

ryan callahan is the heart and soul of that team..and he was missed big time against the caps..I would take him on my team any day.He is future captain material..they should dump drury's butt, and make ryan the capt.
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