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Shinnecock land deal; almost complete
Topic Started: Apr 18 2011, 05:22 PM (5,541 Views)
OlTimeHockey
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally

Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off.
For Canada.

BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half.
50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray.
MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095

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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.

"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."

The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.

In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."

Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."

Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.

The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.

An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.

Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.

Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."

ABOUT half. ABOUT?

So now we're taking Katie Strang's word as gospel? Katie Strang? The person you and most diehards have laughed at for months but here she's correct?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Pardon me but I'll take Giglia's researched word over a less credible on this issue Botta and a nail painting priority novice anytime. (Botta also said the LHP would get done before the Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.) The 75% less residential puts the whole much less than ABOUT half.

Funny how there might be enough space, water and OK for traffic etc. for a casino, hotel, conference center, bigger arena, stores etc. per Crazy Eddie Mangano though but not enough for ABOUT half of the LHP eh? What a joke.

The day Newsday becomes credible is the day I stop drinking. Hence, I'll never have to stop drinking.


:lol: :cheers:

Wouldn't it be in her best interest to brown nose it and say 35%?

:rolleyes:

Nick Googlia is a blogger and his "research" consists of an "unnamed source".



Pretty much every pub reported the overall scope cut to half but I guess for dramatic affect
35% from Googlia sounds better.
Doesn't matter either way, the emperor won't go for it.


As for a Casino affecting the water table/power etc more than a reduced residential area, it holds no water IMO. The runoff of waste is smaller. Check the details.



;)

She's too flaky to know her best interest..unless it's cupcake reporting. ;)

Every pub? Like who else besides the 2 geniuses you mentioned?

Who out there has done more research on this and is more credible?

The space and traffic for a casino etc. setup would be the same as for a reduced LHP.

But you're missing the point altogether. If TOH can't support more than ABOUT half growth of nothing and wants to keep the daffodills and goats instead of a pro sports franchise then C YA!!!!!!!! Guess all that corporate support, mass transit, tons of media, guaranteed spiffy arena and great fan support should sway them to stay though. :rolleyes:

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he Town of Hempstead has scheduled a zoning hearing for June 21. In her zoning proposal for the site last summer, town Supervisor Kate Murray allowed for 5.4 million square feet of buildable space, compared with 8.8 million square feet sought by the Lighthouse plan.


That looks like 60% to me.

newsday

You're no fun.....math person. :angrier:
"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS

"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann

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wow, I missed that one.
Thanks Jackace.

Honestly, they said everywhere from day 1 that the entire scope of the project was reduced in half (50%).

Then, the Nick Googlia's and hand picked Wanger media kept using the 75% reduction in HOUSING to drum up an anti TOH uprising amongst Isles fans.


TOH villain, Kate Murray is not someone I care for either but she's not as big a villain as they make her out to be. I can put my fandom aside and see her best interests as a politician just like I can
see the BS from Wang with HIS best interests...REAL ESTATE cashing.

F em both. In a perfect world they'd negotiate something that IS viable for both and IS in the BEST interests of the NY Islanders. I will never ever become a sellout sheep on Wang's behalf.

(wtf is a "sell-out sheep"???)



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stevedepot,May 23 2011
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wow, I missed that one.
Thanks Jackace.

Honestly, they said everywhere from day 1 that the entire scope of the project was reduced in half (50%).

Then, the Nick Googlia's and hand picked Wanger media kept using the 75% reduction in HOUSING to drum up an anti TOH uprising amongst Isles fans.


TOH villain, Kate Murray is not someone I care for either but she's not as big a villain as they make her out to be. I can put my fandom aside and see her best interests as a politician just like I can
see the BS from Wang with HIS best interests...REAL ESTATE cashing.

F em both. In a perfect world they'd negotiate something that IS viable for both and IS in the BEST interests of the NY Islanders. I will never ever become a sellout sheep on Wang's behalf.

(wtf is a "sell-out sheep"???)



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I agree with your post 100%! Well said!!!
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stevedepot,May 23 2011
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wow, I missed that one.
Thanks Jackace.

Honestly, they said everywhere from day 1 that the entire scope of the project was reduced in half (50%).

Then, the Nick Googlia's and hand picked Wanger media kept using the 75% reduction in HOUSING to drum up an anti TOH uprising amongst Isles fans.


TOH villain, Kate Murray is not someone I care for either but she's not as big a villain as they make her out to be. I can put my fandom aside and see her best interests as a politician just like I can
see the BS from Wang with HIS best interests...REAL ESTATE cashing.

F em both. In a perfect world they'd negotiate something that IS viable for both and IS in the BEST interests of the NY Islanders. I will never ever become a sellout sheep on Wang's behalf.

(wtf is a "sell-out sheep"???)



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The sheep said we needed the housing. Murray said no housing (traffic and schools meant the COUNTY would be on the hook) but she would negotiate, but Wang did his little "take it or leave it/yes or no" act.

Yes, Murray didn't cave......which normally would mean a politician acted well on behalf of her constituency.

Now he doesn't need the housing but Wang will want some business erected around the new building.

This should just remind everyone the ONLY side you pick is your own.
"clearly it's Rick DiPietro's stupidity that's put the islanders in this situation getting into an altercation when a game was over..." Keith Jones on VS

"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann

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