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LOL! Town of Hempstead is never gonna go for a casino right next to Hofstra. It ain't gonna happen and in the slightest chance it does it will be ten years down the road after lots of disputes. The Islanders will be gone by then.
Mule, the TOH will not have any say in the matter if the state turns the land into tribal ground. The TOH is irrelevent. What is relevent is NYS and Nassau County. Will be a lot of hurdles. We'll see what happens.
why would the TOH stop the casino that makes no sense, the lh project on the other hand.....
Why??? Because nobody is gonna want a casino right next to a major college. Great for students to blow their tuition money on. Also would probably see a rise in crime in the surrounding area. If I lived there I wouldn't want a casino anywhere near where I live. We will see but I doubt a casino will fly on that land so close to a major college.
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Why??? Because nobody is gonna want a casino right next to a major college. Great for students to blow their tuition money on.
Firstly, there is a reason why they set age restrictions on gambling. If it's 21, then who cares where it is. Most undergrad college students are under age 21. That will be up for the state to decide. If it's 18, I agree with you. Have a hard time believing it would ever be 18, it would be pure stupidity. - Quote:
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Also would probably see a rise in crime in the surrounding area. If I lived there I wouldn't want a casino anywhere near where I live.
Mule, I'm not saying this sarcastically, but are you from Long Island? A rise in crime in the surrounding area? You mean Uniondale and Hempstead? Can those areas get any worse? I don't feel comfortable driving through those areas during the middle of the day. And I was basically forced to do so recently while taking care of a few things. Those areas can only get better.
I respectfully disagree. If those areas are already bad I only see them getting worse with the addition of a casino.
Im sorry but im not sure how that's possible. Its not South Central LA or East NY but its bad. And a casino isn't going to change a thing about it for better or worse.
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Apr 23 2011, 04:42 AM
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
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Apr 23 2011, 07:42 AM
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off. For Canada.
BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half. 50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray. MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.
"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."
The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.
In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."
Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."
Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.
The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.
An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.
Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.
Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."
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Apr 23 2011, 09:57 AM
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off. For Canada. BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half. 50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray. MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095- Quote:
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.
"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."
The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.
In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."
Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."
Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.
The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.
An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.
Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.
Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."
This is why I am more hopeful that this will get some attention. Half the scope of the LH project is what I read was approved by that fat cow and the casino deal delivers tax revenue, jobs and land development in that area. Lets see how Wang responds to this area being developed without him even though he gets a new arena.
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LOL! Town of Hempstead is never gonna go for a casino right next to Hofstra. It ain't gonna happen and in the slightest chance it does it will be ten years down the road after lots of disputes. The Islanders will be gone by then.
Mule, the TOH will not have any say in the matter if the state turns the land into tribal ground. The TOH is irrelevent. What is relevent is NYS and Nassau County. Will be a lot of hurdles. We'll see what happens.
why would the TOH stop the casino that makes no sense, the lh project on the other hand.....
Why??? Because nobody is gonna want a casino right next to a major college. Great for students to blow their tuition money on. Also would probably see a rise in crime in the surrounding area. If I lived there I wouldn't want a casino anywhere near where I live. We will see but I doubt a casino will fly on that land so close to a major college.
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Why??? Because nobody is gonna want a casino right next to a major college. Great for students to blow their tuition money on.
Firstly, there is a reason why they set age restrictions on gambling. If it's 21, then who cares where it is. Most undergrad college students are under age 21. That will be up for the state to decide. If it's 18, I agree with you. Have a hard time believing it would ever be 18, it would be pure stupidity. - Quote:
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Also would probably see a rise in crime in the surrounding area. If I lived there I wouldn't want a casino anywhere near where I live.
Mule, I'm not saying this sarcastically, but are you from Long Island? A rise in crime in the surrounding area? You mean Uniondale and Hempstead? Can those areas get any worse? I don't feel comfortable driving through those areas during the middle of the day. And I was basically forced to do so recently while taking care of a few things. Those areas can only get better.
I respectfully disagree. If those areas are already bad I only see them getting worse with the addition of a casino.
Im sorry but im not sure how that's possible. Its not South Central LA or East NY but its bad. And a casino isn't going to change a thing about it for better or worse.
Right now the focus is Terrace Avenue. Now bring people with large sums of cash to another parts of the area and the scumbags go.......?
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"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann
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Apr 23 2011, 06:34 PM
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off. For Canada. BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half. 50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray. MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095- Quote:
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.
"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."
The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.
In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."
Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."
Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.
The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.
An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.
Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.
Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."
This is why I am more hopeful that this will get some attention. Half the scope of the LH project is what I read was approved by that fat cow and the casino deal delivers tax revenue, jobs and land development in that area. Lets see how Wang responds to this area being developed without him even though he gets a new arena.
New arena plus a nice chunk or development OR you're a tenant with a good lease and a casino outdrawing your team?
He could be negotiating right now but I think he wants to take his toys and go home.
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"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann
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Apr 24 2011, 06:53 AM
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LOL! Town of Hempstead is never gonna go for a casino right next to Hofstra. It ain't gonna happen and in the slightest chance it does it will be ten years down the road after lots of disputes. The Islanders will be gone by then.
Mule, the TOH will not have any say in the matter if the state turns the land into tribal ground. The TOH is irrelevent. What is relevent is NYS and Nassau County. Will be a lot of hurdles. We'll see what happens.
why would the TOH stop the casino that makes no sense, the lh project on the other hand.....
Why??? Because nobody is gonna want a casino right next to a major college. Great for students to blow their tuition money on. Also would probably see a rise in crime in the surrounding area. If I lived there I wouldn't want a casino anywhere near where I live. We will see but I doubt a casino will fly on that land so close to a major college.
maybe the college students get a job at the casino, lets see blow your money at the mall or at the casino
the only thing holding the Islanders is a new arena
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Like I said, wake me up when this thing is over.........or when the first shovel goes in the ground.......because we're years away from that if at all.
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off. For Canada. BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half. 50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray. MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095- Quote:
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.
"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."
The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.
In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."
Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."
Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.
The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.
An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.
Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.
Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."
ABOUT half. ABOUT?
So now we're taking Katie Strang's word as gospel? Katie Strang? The person you and most diehards have laughed at for months but here she's correct?
Pardon me but I'll take Giglia's researched word over a less credible on this issue Botta and a nail painting priority novice anytime. (Botta also said the LHP would get done before the Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.) The 75% less residential puts the whole much less than ABOUT half.
Funny how there might be enough space, water and OK for traffic etc. for a casino, hotel, conference center, bigger arena, stores etc. per Crazy Eddie Mangano though but not enough for ABOUT half of the LHP eh? What a joke.
The day Newsday becomes credible is the day I stop drinking. Hence, I'll never have to stop drinking.
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off. For Canada. BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half. 50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray. MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095- Quote:
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.
"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."
The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.
In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."
Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."
Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.
The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.
An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.
Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.
Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."
ABOUT half. ABOUT? So now we're taking Katie Strang's word as gospel? Katie Strang? The person you and most diehards have laughed at for months but here she's correct? Pardon me but I'll take Giglia's researched word over a less credible on this issue Botta and a nail painting priority novice anytime. (Botta also said the LHP would get done before the Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.) The 75% less residential puts the whole much less than ABOUT half. Funny how there might be enough space, water and OK for traffic etc. for a casino, hotel, conference center, bigger arena, stores etc. per Crazy Eddie Mangano though but not enough for ABOUT half of the LHP eh? What a joke. The day Newsday becomes credible is the day I stop drinking. Hence, I'll never have to stop drinking. :lol:
Wouldn't it be in her best interest to brown nose it and say 35%?
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Nick Googlia is a blogger and his "research" consists of an "unnamed source".
Pretty much every pub reported the overall scope cut to half but I guess for dramatic affect 35% from Googlia sounds better. Doesn't matter either way, the emperor won't go for it.
As for a Casino affecting the water table/power etc more than a reduced residential area, it holds no water IMO. The runoff of waste is smaller. Check the details.
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off. For Canada. BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half. 50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray. MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095- Quote:
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.
"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."
The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.
In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."
Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."
Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.
The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.
An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.
Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.
Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."
ABOUT half. ABOUT? So now we're taking Katie Strang's word as gospel? Katie Strang? The person you and most diehards have laughed at for months but here she's correct? Pardon me but I'll take Giglia's researched word over a less credible on this issue Botta and a nail painting priority novice anytime. (Botta also said the LHP would get done before the Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.) The 75% less residential puts the whole much less than ABOUT half. Funny how there might be enough space, water and OK for traffic etc. for a casino, hotel, conference center, bigger arena, stores etc. per Crazy Eddie Mangano though but not enough for ABOUT half of the LHP eh? What a joke. The day Newsday becomes credible is the day I stop drinking. Hence, I'll never have to stop drinking. :lol: 
Wouldn't it be in her best interest to brown nose it and say 35%?
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Nick Googlia is a blogger and his "research" consists of an "unnamed source".
Pretty much every pub reported the overall scope cut to half but I guess for dramatic affect 35% from Googlia sounds better. Doesn't matter either way, the emperor won't go for it.
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Hopefully within the next 18-24 months an arena is finalized. I feel like if the isles get an arena deal in place the franchise will take off....finally
Even if it doesn't, they'll still take off. For Canada. BTW, in todays print Newsday. yet another article about the Lighthouse project being cut in half. 50% in that counter proposal by Kate Murray. MUCH more palatable for EVERYONE IMO. Let's see if Wang is still full of it by how long he continues to ignore it. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islan...nders-1.2834095- Quote:
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday that Islanders owner Charles Wang wants to stay on Long Island and that the team and public officials need to ratchet up talks in the next year about where the franchise will play.
"With the lease [at Nassau Coliseum] expiring in four years, with the change in [Nassau County's] administration, I think [team owner] Charles Wang is in a bit of a quiet period. He's tried everything and been unsuccessful at getting . . . [Nassau] County and Town of Hempstead on the same page," Bettman said at a meeting with Associated Press sports editors in Manhattan. "With four years to go on the lease -- and Wang has said repeatedly he intends to honor the lease -- then we probably need to get more serious and focus on this in about a year."
The Lighthouse Project -- Wang's massive redevelopment plan that included a new arena for the Islanders -- is all but dead, but Bettman said the owner remains committed to remaining on Long Island.
In July, the Town of Hempstead announced a zoning plan that was about half the density of the $3.8-billion Lighthouse Project. Wang's group said at the time the plan "did not achieve the goals of the county and the developer."
Responding to Bettman, Kate Murray, the Town of Hempstead supervisor, said in a statement: "We are on track to present and consider a dynamic zone for the property surrounding the Nassau Coliseum to the Hempstead Town Board in an upcoming June meeting. I hope that Mr. Wang will take advantage of my invitation to come in and review the proposed zone."
Murray was referring to Hempstead's "dynamic zone" plan proposed in July for the property surrounding the Coliseum and which will be presented to the town board in June.
The Shinnecock Nation and Nassau County were working on a deal that could lead to the tribe buying and developing about 40 acres of county-owned land for a casino adjacent to the Coliseum, a person with knowledge of the talks told Newsday this week.
An Islanders spokesman declined to comment and a call to Wong's office was not returned.
Given what Bettman described as a "well-documented lack" of progress on Wang's pursuit of a new venue, relocation might be the only other option for the Islanders. Bettman hopes that is a last resort.
Brian Nevin, a spokesman for Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano, said, "The county executive has made it a priority to retain the Islanders and create jobs by jump-starting development at the site of Nassau Coliseum."
ABOUT half. ABOUT? So now we're taking Katie Strang's word as gospel? Katie Strang? The person you and most diehards have laughed at for months but here she's correct? Pardon me but I'll take Giglia's researched word over a less credible on this issue Botta and a nail painting priority novice anytime. (Botta also said the LHP would get done before the Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.) The 75% less residential puts the whole much less than ABOUT half. Funny how there might be enough space, water and OK for traffic etc. for a casino, hotel, conference center, bigger arena, stores etc. per Crazy Eddie Mangano though but not enough for ABOUT half of the LHP eh? What a joke. The day Newsday becomes credible is the day I stop drinking. Hence, I'll never have to stop drinking. :lol:
Wouldn't it be in her best interest to brown nose it and say 35%? :rolleyes: Nick Googlia is a blogger and his "research" consists of an "unnamed source". Pretty much every pub reported the overall scope cut to half but I guess for dramatic affect 35% from Googlia sounds better. Doesn't matter either way, the emperor won't go for it. As for a Casino affecting the water table/power etc more than a reduced residential area, it holds no water IMO. The runoff of waste is smaller. Check the details.
She's too flaky to know her best interest..unless it's cupcake reporting.
Every pub? Like who else besides the 2 geniuses you mentioned?
Who out there has done more research on this and is more credible?
The space and traffic for a casino etc. setup would be the same as for a reduced LHP.
But you're missing the point altogether. If TOH can't support more than ABOUT half growth of nothing and wants to keep the daffodills and goats instead of a pro sports franchise then C YA!!!!!!!! Guess all that corporate support, mass transit, tons of media, guaranteed spiffy arena and great fan support should sway them to stay though. :rolleyes:
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All I can say is the TOH must have a TON of money. I mean, in these financial times, why would they turn away JOBS, TAX REVENUE and oh yeah, JOBS AND TAX REVENUE.
What a joke. I don't even want to read any of this politcal horsesh!t any more.
Get out of there and find somewhere else to play. Then listen to all those fat cat politicos whine on the Island when their cash cow dies.
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nice crazy eddie reference
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Wait just a cotton picken minute.
Levy still trying to entice Shinnecocks to develop in Suffolk.
[dohtml]<iframe src='http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/levy-suffolk-in-casino-talks-with-tribe-1.2840812?print=true' width=700 height=700></iframe>[/dohtml]
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All I can say is the TOH must have a TON of money. I mean, in these financial times, why would they turn away JOBS, TAX REVENUE and oh yeah, JOBS AND TAX REVENUE.
What a joke. I don't even want to read any of this politcal horsesh!t any more.
Get out of there and find somewhere else to play. Then listen to all those fat cat politicos whine on the Island when their cash cow dies.
You overbuild and chase away the middle/upper middle class and you're left with what?
The casino won't affect students or parents of students, will it?
This should have been negotiated through and through to come to a resolution but instead, they're gonna shoot themselves and the residents in the foot at the 11th hour. The only winners will be the developer(s) and the politicians who get kickbacks.
Oh, and the team will have a new arena with a ticket price hike as a result for the fans to absorb. There is no winning in this unless Wang/NY just paid to upgrade the arena. (If the Shinny's rebuild the Coliseum, DOES WANG KEEP HIS ARENA DEAL?)
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Wait just a cotton picken minute.
Levy still trying to entice Shinnecocks to develop in Suffolk.
[dohtml]<iframe src='http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/levy-suffolk-in-casino-talks-with-tribe-1.2840812?print=true' width=700 height=700></iframe>[/dohtml]
I was under the impression that the Shinnecocks planned to build two casinos on LI: one in Nassau and one in Suffolk. Definitely read that someplace more than once. The one in Suffolk being pretty far out East. I think Newsday is trying to create a competition here that is non-existent. Things with Nassau remain the same I'm sure.
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http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20110...STATE/110429878
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The Shinnecock Indian Nation in Southampton, L.I., is expected to sign a memorandum of understanding by the end of this week, the first step in what will be a very long process of creating a casino on the island, according to sources. The new casino would someday compete against the highly anticipated racino scheduled to open at Aqueduct Racetrack in Ozone Park, Queens, this summer.
The agreement is expected to be with Nassau County, where the tribe has been eyeing Nassau Coliseum as a potential gaming site. Reports published on Wednesday indicate that the tribe is also in discussions with Suffolk County officials about building their gaming facility on a parcel of land in Yaphak.
Interesting stuff.
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Wait just a cotton picken minute.
Levy still trying to entice Shinnecocks to develop in Suffolk.
[dohtml]<iframe src='http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/levy-suffolk-in-casino-talks-with-tribe-1.2840812?print=true' width=700 height=700></iframe>[/dohtml]
SOUNDS LIKE BAD NEWS FOR LAS VEGAS AND THEM EVENTUALLY INHERITING THE WEBB20 FORTUNE
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We'll see. I'm not big on Indian run casinos. They have no regulations to follow, no authority to check on them. I will still probably drive past them to go to AC, where there are real gaming casinos and services that treat you like royalty with suites and meals, not quite as easy with the natives.
And I'm headed west, for the great wide open, and the off strip small town gaming.
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