| Rumeli Islam and the al-Hibar Delcaration of Faith | |
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| Urcea | Oct 5 2014, 02:39 PM Post #1 |
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As many of you know, I'm working ICly to create a new sect of Islam unique to Ixnay. The basis of it is what Islam might look like under Catholic influence for several hundred years, and the new sect will be created in such a way to have appeal to both Shia and Sunni, as well as its core of initial "new age" Muslim believers. Some elements are to be a sacred tradition element, like in Catholicism, as well as a priesthood of some kind (and an ecclesiastical hierarchy likely looking like Orthodox Christianity). Veneration of Mary is likely to be an element, as well as some kind of different interpretation of the nature of God (not a trinity, perhaps, perhaps more of a duality; God Regnant as the all-knowing, all-powerful sovereign of the universe and God Prophetic as the person of God who takes root in the hearts of men, particularly the prophets?) in addition to other theological issues to be discussed and determined. I'd like to figure out the conclusion before the IC discussion begins. The biggest issue is the rightful succession of Caliphs and Imams, and the big element of Sacred Tradition, of course, is who exactly in history had authority to speak on matters of faith. I figure this, within the Rumeli faith, will be proposed as a series and sequence of historical leaders, both Sunni and Shia, who ruled as "rightly-guided Patriarch of the Faith", perhaps allowing it to extend before Muhammad to some other figures, stretching back to Ibrahim. This would allow a modern day Patriarch of the Faith to rule, similar to the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Who, then, should the "Patriarchs" be, in reference to the successors of Muhammad. |
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| The State of Islam | Oct 5 2014, 03:06 PM Post #2 |
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Caliph = Successor Imam = Leader. We called the patriarchs of the old testament Imams aswell as prophets. Ali Abu Bakr Umar Uthman Hassan Hussain Ali as-Sajjad Muhammad al-Baqir Ja'far as-Sadiq Musa al-Kadhim Ali ar-Ridha Muhammad al-Jawad Ali al-Hadi Hassan al-Askari Muhammad al-Mahdi (goes into occultation and appoints Abbasids as his successors) al-Qahir ar-Radi al-Muttaqi al-Mustakfi al-Muti at-Ta'i al-Qadir al-Qa'im bi-amri 'llah (Abbasid) al-Muqtadi al-Mustazhir al-Mustarshid ar-Rashid (12th century) al-Muqtafi al-Mustanjid Al-Mustadi Al-Nasir Az-Zahir Al-Mustansir Al-Musta'sim Al-Mustansir II Al-Hakim I Al-Mustakfi I Al-Hakim II Al-Mu'tadid I Al-Mutawakkil I Al-Wathiq II Al-Mu'tasim Al-Mutawakkil I Al-Musta'in Al-Mu'tadid II Al-Mustakfi II Al-Qa'im Al-Mustanjid Al-Mutawakkil II Al-Mustamsik Al-Mutawakkil III (Appoints Nizari Fatimids as successors) Abū Dharr ʻAlī Murād Mīrzā Dhū-l-Fiqār ʻAlī Nūru-d-Dīn ʻAlī Khalīlullāh II ʻAlī Nizār As-Sayyid ʻAlī Ḥasan ʻAlī Qāsim ʻAlī Abū-l-Ḥasan ʻAlī ibn Qāsim ʻAlī Shāh Khalīlullāh III Ḥassan ʻAlī Shāh Āgā Khān I Āqā ʻAlī Shāh Āgā Khān II (appoints the Hashemites as his successors) Hussein ibn Ali (of Hejaz) Ali ibn Hussein (of Hejaz) At this point I don't know because those who proceeded on both the hashemite and nizari side are not particularly religious |
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