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A very brave woman; What would you have done?
Topic Started: Sep 12 2017, 07:25 PM (205 Views)
Currawong
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The thread on the Ned - Catelyn marriage, and Cat's treatment of Jon, mentions the patriarchal society of Westeros, and whether a wife would tolerate the equivalent behaviour from her husband today.

Clearly, women still have a long way to go in terms of patriarchal attitudes.
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So, do we stand up and cheer this woman for having the guts to do what she did - or should she have kept quiet and "stood by her husband through thick and thin" etc? I cannot even begin to comprehend the shock she must have felt, and I certainly applaud her from the bottom of my heart for doing what she did. As she says, it's the children that matter. Yet there are still apparently some people who think she should have kept quiet. :(

I know we have seen pics of wives accompanying their husbands to court when accused of such offences, and outwardly at least supporting them, which in a way I can understand at least until the case is proven. But if a wife discovers the offence(s) herself?
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You don't mess with kids. That's a line that, to me, once crossed cannot be erased. I would have trouble not poisoning that kind of man let alone turning him into the authorities.
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december13
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She did right. I applaud her! Even calling her "a very brave woman" is disrespectful to her and her actions. She was/is a very good human being. There should be more of her...

Standing by your partner who caused pain and atrocities to others, in this case defenceless children, would be almost as bad as the act itself - it would show you're basically condoning the behaviour.
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Currawong
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Why is calling her " very brave". being disrespectful? I certainly did not mean it that way, especially in terms,of what she has gone through because of her decision. Of course she is a very fine woman / human being, but it still took a certain courage to pull the plug on her husband like that, no matter how right the decision was. Alas, cases show that there are many women who - for whatever reasons - remain silent even when their own child is being abused by their partner. This woman is a very fine person AND had the courage to do what was right, even though it has,clearly cost her in many ways.
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Marion
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Absolutely, Curra, she did the right thing. How horrific though.

In my country recently a woman (modern-day Brienne?) knifed three men whom she caught in the act of raping her daughter. She was arrested and charged with murder, but at least people have rallied to help her pay for a proper legal defense.

Mom accused of killing daughter's alleged rapist: 'I don't regret it'

When I read that story I couldn't celebrate it or cheer as I did in the show when Brienne mowed down the three Stark men who had killed the tavern girls. I just thought, how terrible to live in a world where women are under this kind of threat every day. Also, if bravery and heroism were properly acknowledged, how many countries would be led by women?

Though I love Brienne (obviously!) and other female warriors (even those who wear bikinis), I think that all the focus on the hyper-masculine action-hero means we often don't recognise the other varieties of courage that are more characteristic of women's lives e.g. Rachel Carling's tough decision, or, for example, an abuse survivor who finds the courage to to imagine a new life for herself and walk away despite the dangers. Sadly, the mere action of a woman leaving often unleashes even worse violence on her and women are all too aware of that.
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december13
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Sep 13 2017, 01:59 AM
Why is calling her " very brave". being disrespectful? I certainly did not mean it that way, especially in terms,of what she has gone through because of her decision. Of course she is a very fine woman / human being, but it still took a certain courage to pull the plug on her husband like that, no matter how right the decision was. Alas, cases show that there are many women who - for whatever reasons - remain silent even when their own child is being abused by their partner. This woman is a very fine person AND had the courage to do what was right, even though it has,clearly cost her in many ways.
Oh, I agree with you, Curra!

Disrespectful was maybe a strong word, but I didn't mean it for the term "brave", but "woman" and in the sense of the act she took. Yes, she is a woman, but I meant that she was/is first and foremost a fine human being or, if you insist, brave human being. Gender shouldn't apply for when you're doing an act of... stepping up for someone else? Being there for wronged party? Defenceless children, in this case... I know it is, because society still has major issues with how women should be perceived, how women should act, what's their/our role in society,..., but I find it to be awful.

And people calling her out for it, saying she should respect the vow she took, are pure garbage! What about him and his vows?! What about him being the sick and evil individual?!
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Marion
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Update on the case of the woman arrested for attacking her daughters' rapists with a knife - charges have been dropped.
South Africans have started calling her #LionMama
It looks like some kind of sanity prevailed, but in such an insane world. Also this is only the beginning of the story for all the survivors.

Case dropped against #LionMama who stabbed her daughter's rapist

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