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NEGATIVITY ON THE BOARDS - END IT!; Stop or you won't like the result.
Topic Started: Jul 1 2008, 07:40 AM (1,092 Views)
Pelintra
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I think we are missing the point of this entire topic :rolleyes:
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Kaydon Sentry
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"Least likely to be a Mod" and "Biggest Spammer" awards will be omitted.

And I have one of two choices: I can either disappear completely and you'll see me whenever this thing is released (which means no more clips or anything), or we work on cleaning this forum up, and ending the petty fights, insults and arguments. I'm talking zero-tolerance.

The forum grows everyday and we need to establish some sort of precedent to make sure its s safe and happy environment for everyone.
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Revan 411
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Kaydon Sentry
Jul 1 2008, 11:05 PM
"Least likely to be a Mod" and "Biggest Spammer" awards will be omitted.

And I have one of two choices: I can either disappear completely and you'll see me whenever this thing is released (which means no more clips or anything), or we work on cleaning this forum up, and ending the petty fights, insults and arguments. I'm talking zero-tolerance.

The forum grows everyday and we need to establish some sort of precedent to make sure its s safe and happy environment for everyone.

I choose clean up the fourms and make it a more safer enveryment.
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Darth Bos Pity
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Jul 1 2008, 11:05 PM
"Least likely to be a Mod" and "Biggest Spammer" awards will be omitted.

And I have one of two choices: I can either disappear completely and you'll see me whenever this thing is released (which means no more clips or anything), or we work on cleaning this forum up, and ending the petty fights, insults and arguments. I'm talking zero-tolerance.

The forum grows everyday and we need to establish some sort of precedent to make sure its s safe and happy environment for everyone.

Now it's just childish, it's a simple matter of stopping, & being baisically happier.

The way it is now is just going to ruin it for all of us, what's going on, it seems like its all stem'd out of controll allof a sudden, how did it get like this? :(
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Pelintra
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Yeah, strange really. I got up this morning and I thought it was some sort of dream and it was April Fools day or something all over again. It's a shame because now many of us will be taking an analysis over everything we say. I understand what you mean Darth Bos, things seem a little over cooked if you ask me. Quite frankly as much as I emphasize with this ordeal, I think a little bit of the carrot and the stick should be applied instead of boycotting everything.

I have been reading up on this event and I have realized this was something Kaydon has been thinking and talking about recently, before going public with it. But the damage is not as "incredible" as it is being described here. This is simply the Wall Street Market Crash meets KOTOR the Movie Forums. A few mis understandings from a few new and old members are giving the illusion that everyone has to take a guilt trip. Now everyone is withdrawing comments and apologizing for things not necessary there fault and we are completely forgetting the point of the awards ceremony in the first place "to have a little fun". I am going to shut up about it the for now on, but I must say, could this whole issue have been taken a tiny bit too far? :blink:
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Kaydon Sentry
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People who need to go over everything they say and apologize for things previously said are people who have been harsh or rude to other members. You don't need to walk on egg shells around here, or dot your i's or cross your t's... you just have to be respectful to people. Act as if you saw these people, in person, everyday - people hide behind the 'safety' of their keyboard, as an avenue to be rude to people and thats how flaming begins - whereas in real life you wouldn't dare talk to someone like that in person.

It's not childish to decide to stop frequenting a place because of negativity. It's in everyone's rights to be places they want to be in. Take for example "aint it cool news" - the website's 'talkback' section, which is basically like a comment board for news articles, is a dreadful place of swearing, spam, flames, and negative, negative posts by wannabe film critics with nothing better to do with their time than to write a four paragraph post on how they "WON'T" be seeing the new Indy film because that little wimp "SHIA" is in it. Four paragraphs! About how they "WON'T" see the film. Suuureeee they won't. I don't really read up on those talk backs anymore.

I'm simply saying that over the last few weeks it has dawned on me that these boards, for me, haven't been as fun. And when I see posts with insults, making fun of each others' mom's - and plain disrespect to people on here, it has jaded me. If I decide to stop coming here, it's within my right. If I want to cancel the damn trilogy, it's within my right.

Fact is I'm not canceling the trilogy, and if I didn't care about these boards I would have simply left and gone away (like my hiatus during the first movie) - but I didn't do that. I voiced how I felt and now people are realizing these petty flame wars aren't worth it.

No one needs to edit themselves or apologize for every little word. No one needs to NOT be sarcastic, hell, Vadakin and I are smart-asses to each other all the time. But the trend with some of the posters here has turned ugly and downright mean, and we can all see that.

This is not even something that needs to be discussed anymore. Just be yourselves, but act as if you have to deal with your fellow posters in the real world - and I guarantee your respect level will go up. And it can teach the younger users here how to interact with people on a more adult level.
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Thats what i was doing man i changed in the last months... :(
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so i am i cool with you guys?
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Vadakin
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I guess I should comment...

Look, I try to be lenient. I don't want to give warnings or suspensions, and the last thing I want to do is come down hard on people. That's why the warning system is the way it is. It's designed to let people know that they have done wrong, while giving them a second chance.

And even then I prefer to just send a PM asking a member to calm down rather than giving an official warning if I can help it. I try to be fair and give people the benefit of the doubt.

But this negativity has to stop. This isn't AICN. It's not a place where you can say what you like and not face consequences. While the forum is for people aged 13 and up, it is possible that younger children may visit the forum, and as such, it's important to maintain a family-friendly atmosphere.

If it comes down to it, I can always shut this forum down and everything can move back to TFN, and believe me, the mods there are a lot less tolerant than we are. I don't want to do that. having a forum dedicated to these films has been a great help in crafting the films and letting people know about it.

The negativity isn't that bad here, it's no AICN, but it is becoming a problem. And I've been on enough forums to know that even small problems can grow and spread until the entire forum lives under the shadow of negativity.

With that in mind, the forum rules are going to be enforced more strictly than before. Disruptive behaviour, both here and in chat will result in automatic warnings, increasing for each offense leading to moderator previews of posts, stopping troublemakers from posting at all, suspensions and permanent bans. No more PMs asking you to calm down without giving warnings since they seem to have no effect. Mods are free to handle situations their own way, but as for me, I'm cracking down.

What does this mean? As long as you behave, it won't affect you. You are free to offer opinions and make comments, but no personal attacks. If you want to be a smartass and add a bit of sarcasm, that's fine, but keep it light. If someone offers an opinion you disagree with, don't attack them for it. Debate is encouraged as long as it's not confrontational.

And refrain from spamming and constantly sending sounds in public chat. If you insist on sending sounds, do it in private chat and only then with a member who doesn't mind. Public chat is exactly for that...chatting. It's not for spam, it's not for sending stupid sounds that annoy people. At the moment, chat is available to everyone...there is a way to restrict it if I have to and worst case scenario, I will shut it down completely.

This forum is a place to have fun discussing the movies, and it isn't enjoyable to see posts that are hurtful. So cut it out and there won't be a problem.

And whatever you do...don't make me angry...you wouldn't like me when I'm angry :P
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Jedi Striker
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Wow I certainly have been gone a long time (just got my laptop back from being fixed), which also explains why I'm not up for any awards (lol, jking).

Anyway, sorry to hear that things have been a little rough around the edges here lately. So I'll promise, with my *hopeful* return, I will be civilized as we should be expected to be.
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Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet the Force.

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Welcome back Jadi Striker yeah we are having a rough time
"Those who break laws are scum. And those who abandon their friends to follow the law... they're lower than scum!"-Kakashi
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I must say that I haven't been around here that much as well, It's just not as funny as it was back when it all started.
I think the main reason is the big amount of people here. I just can't read every post as I could when the forum started. I kind of lost the overview and so things get annoying...

I think we have to arrange things better, having competitions and tasks like the ones Kaydon started with the 'review-contest' for example, or Vadakin with the 'banner art contest'. I think that way we could make the forums more attractive for the users and we could use our energy to create nice stuff instead of insulting and pointless speaking.

I don't want to hang around here if the only thing we can talk about is totally senseless, but I am willing to do everything to help to improve things here....

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Ah! Welcome back Jedi Stiriker and Sir-Pal and Vadakin good to have you guys back again! :)

Anyway i agree with what all of you say and i'm actually quite glad the rules are being more enforced more and hope that everything will turn out better in the future.
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none of this would have ever hapened withpout me, o oh


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I think we've all said what is needed to be said. Hope we see changes around here. :)

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