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| DarthRevan789 | Jan 22 2009, 10:29 PM Post #31 |
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But that doesn't change that the tone and mood are much different from other Star Wars content Oh, and the films are at a higher level content then the films. |
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| Revan 411 | Jan 22 2009, 10:30 PM Post #32 |
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Heh, I completely agree with you Mr. JCarter426.
Okay, let me be as clear as possible. The jedi masters in K2 are different then the movies and games. The Sith lords are also different. K2 is a tragic dark story about the Exile. Return Of The Sith wasn't. Empire Strikes Back wasn't either. They had dark tones, but they had the overall Star Wars feeling. K2 doesn't. Its a whole new universe in K2. The Jedi are all dead, and the remaining masters won't pass on the force to other people. And once you save them, they all attack you. In short, K2 may have the star wars title and the crawl, but in theory it isn't Star Wars. Period. |
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| Logan Starr | Jan 22 2009, 10:30 PM Post #33 |
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Actually it is the same canon JC. The KOTOR II mood mimicks ROTS and ESB. The only diference between Star Wars and KOTOR II is KOTOR II is more broken and hollow. |
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| DarthRevan789 | Jan 22 2009, 10:32 PM Post #34 |
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No, Logan it isn't. Films are on a higher level canon. And no, it doesn't mimick those. First off, ROTS wasn't even out yet. <_< EDIT: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon There is the levels of canon, Logan |
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| Revan 411 | Jan 22 2009, 10:33 PM Post #35 |
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No it doesn't. Episode III wasn't even released in 2004. KOTOR II is more of a tragic story and a darker game... |
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| Logan Starr | Jan 22 2009, 10:34 PM Post #36 |
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Sorry to double post but that is the biggest load of BS I have ever read. Jedi genocide happens as often as the Olympics in Star Wars, in the Original trilogy the Jedi are as gone as they are in KOTOR II. K2 is NOT tragic, no need to even give points as it is so obviosly not tragic, ROTS is more tragic than K2. And KOTOR 2 has a STar Wars feel and mood to it. BTW is is Revenge of the SIth and Return of the Jedi, not Return of the Sith. |
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| DarthRevan789 | Jan 22 2009, 10:37 PM Post #37 |
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The Jedi massacre only happens twice in the Star Wars universe. Get your facts straight before making arguements, please.
Yes, it is
Lies. ROTS is not more tragic. The only thing tragic about ROTS is that Jedi that we don't even care about die, and an arrogant, TERRIBLE Jedi Knight goes bad and kills children. FOR THE SECOND TIME.
No, it doesn't. K1 does. K2 does not |
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| Revan 411 | Jan 22 2009, 10:40 PM Post #38 |
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Okay, Logan Starr, I don't even want to point out how many spelling errors you put in that statement. Oh and EpIII isn't tragic. WTF? It just has a guy killing children and people and wearing a black suit. How the heck is that dark and tragic? In other words, EpIII sucks. But at least its better then the other two prequels. Also, K2 IS dark. The Exile was banished from the force and is trying to connect back to the force. The Jedi masters didn't even pass on the force to others. Instead they were hiding like a bunch of idiots, and then once the Exile rescue's them, they turn there backs on him/her. K2 isn't Star Wars. |
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| Logan Starr | Jan 22 2009, 10:42 PM Post #39 |
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What ever, I am just saying there is an awful lot of Jedi massacre. And the Jedi massacre is the same in K2 as OT ROTS is more tragic than K2, get it straight. K2 is not tragic. It is dark. Both KOTOR's has Star Wars mood. They feel as much like STar Wars as ROTS and ESB. KOTOR II is Star Wars |
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| Logan Starr | Jan 22 2009, 10:45 PM Post #40 |
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I am typing fast 411. I have things to do like a life outside the forum. OK this argument is boring, yo seem to ignore anypoint I make. KOTOR II is not tragic. It is dark. And also 411 you have rasied an inconsistency, in another thread you said Episode III is pretty good. KOTOR II is dark and not bloody tragic. The way you looked at Episode III KOTOR II is just an idiot wearing armor trying to be a Jedi despite he failed at it. EDIT: Bored of all this arguing, leaving boards. Don't delete my acount mods as I may post when Eppy two when released. |
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| Revan 411 | Jan 22 2009, 10:46 PM Post #41 |
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EpIII isn't tragic. It just has a bunch of sith killing jedis that we don't care about. K2 on the other hand has a character that we care about. And the Character is really interesting and the tones and themes are amazing. And the jedi masters almost kills the Exile. |
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| DarthRevan789 | Jan 22 2009, 10:46 PM Post #42 |
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No, it isn't the same. The Jedi are simply killed by the clones in ROTS, as suppossed to being hunted from the shadows, or stripped from the force. K2 provides us with an image of the Jedi being wiped out not to gain control, but...
Forget it, I am not even going to bother
Bah. No, it doesn't
Only in name and tech
He didn't fail at.... Far from it, in fact, the Exile is one of the best Jedi
Congragulations, so do I. |
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| JCarter426 | Jan 22 2009, 11:05 PM Post #43 |
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Actually, it's only happened twice so far. Guess when.
Yes, because we cared about Anakin so much that we wouldn't want him to murder children... again... or give into his hate... again... or turn on his master... again. And I cried when his relationship for Padme fell apart, because it was so realistic and heartwarming. :rolleyes:
I still haven't had my question answered. Have you even played the game? K2 does mimic the mood of Empire, this is true. Your player is the last Jedi in the galaxy, being hunted by two Sith Lords. That's pretty much where the similarities end. There is no main conflict between good and evil or freedom and oppression. It's just one person facing their past and learning through that conflict. The Exile's enemies and allies merely represent a part of the Exile, something that is very not Star Wars at all. Star Wars relies on archetypes to deliver its message; the characters are all based on universal ideas that the audience has; in a way they each represent a part of the audience. Not the case at all in K2; the characters are all broken by war, just as the Exile, all afraid of their pasts, just as the Exile. They are part of the Exile, and unless you are like the Exile, they will not resemble you at all. It's pretty much this one tiny difference that ends up creating an entirely different atmosphere in K2. Not to mention that the themes aren't at all like Star Wars' themes. And the way they are delivered is very different. But that's enough for now. |
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| JediKnight24 | Jan 23 2009, 12:39 AM Post #44 |
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OK guys, let's calm down a bit and have a civilized discussion regarding our favourite movies and games, shall we? As such, I'll give my opinion on the matter. In label, K2 is as SW as any other game because it's got the label and it was made by LucasArts. In atmosphere and mood, it is indeed darker than any other SW creation and yes it is also tragic, not least considering all the cut content. If I were to compare it to one of the movies I'd say it resembles ESB the most, especially in atmosphere. I think I read an interview with Chris Avellone where he said something like:"TSL is the ESB of KOTOR". Evidently, that's not the exact quote, but you get the point. I personally think that the fact that TSL's mood is so different than other SW games is what makes it so good and interesting. It's definetely more interesting than K1, but not better IMHO. I would actually call TSL the 'new wave' of Star Wars, although it is rare. I've read about some comics and novels, which have a more 'gray pattern' than what we'd call usual SW creations, so maybe a pattern is emerging. On-topic: I haven't actually played TFU, but the way the romance between Juno and Marek plays along is just, ugh terrible. |
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| Darthslim108 | Jan 23 2009, 01:46 AM Post #45 |
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I don't think I've played any Star Wars games the I would consider bad. Some mediocre ones, sure, but I've found at least some enjoyment in all the ones I've played. I'd have to say that while Kotor 2 is one of my favorite SW games, it is also a big disappointment because it could've been so much better but they rushed it. |
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As such, I'll give my opinion on the matter. In label, K2 is as SW as any other game because it's got the label and it was made by LucasArts. In atmosphere and mood, it is indeed darker than any other SW creation and yes it is also tragic, not least considering all the cut content.
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