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| Master0fDoritos | Oct 9 2010, 12:41 PM Post #46 |
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It's called cynicism, but i guess a better word would be realist. Who cares anyways, labels are gay. I'm a very impatient realistic person with a low tolerance for bs. You did say cliche's were story breaking. I find it deep and interesting because now we have no idea whether or not he was a clone in the first place or if it's Vader just messing with him. Now we have no idea whats going on and that makes the story that much deeper. Now if they do the obvious and say... HUUR HUUR HUUR HE'S A CLONE. Then they've destroyed any type of depth they created. The problem is that StarKiller still has his memories but Vader says he's a clone. Interesting and makes you think. It could change you whole perspective on the original saga, if and only if they pull this off right. TFU's story couldn't be screwed up. It was a classic star wars tale. TFU2's story how ever has a large possibility of being a big mistake...... or one of the best SW stories ever. That's up to them though. You used the term fan boy angst incorrectly. I can't be agreeing with the fiction given by LA and have angst towards them. To bad this generalization is true. Let's have fun with words GENERALIZATION..... it starts with the word GENERAL. I was talking about the GENERAL population of "nerds" and whatever else you want to call us. The GENERAL(or major) portion of us are basement dwelling (well not really but they play a lot of video games, I play a lot of video games to but thats not all I do) dudes who don't care much for their appearance and bitch about all the stuff they're nerdy about. Then they act all nostalgic and say the good ol' days are ruined (even though they were never even a part of the good ol' days) and that they were ruined by *inserperson/companyhere*. That is the majority of us "nerds". I know a lot of them, that's how they are. Me and you (as you said) are the exception to the general population, but that doesn't make the generalization untrue. |
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| Revan 411 | Oct 9 2010, 05:13 PM Post #47 |
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You, (and Bman) completely misunderstood by what I meant. The usage of cliches can be two fold; on one hand, they have the potential to drive the story forward without sophisticated explanation, or understanding (which is what the modern age audience hate), or they can damage a story in the most unappropriated terms of story context. The latter of which happens more often then you think. Using a cliche in the most unappropriated terms of story only once can be subtle, and I'll forgive the writer for doing that if the execution is at least 90% true to the story concept. However, the obvious usage of cliches in more unappropriated story context (like, say 90% of the story) will lead me (and several other people) to criticize the story in question. Avatar, the 2009 James Cameron film, is a prime example of this. Now, I will admit that The Force Unleashed only utilized 4 cliches, or so; but even then it still doesn't excuse the horrible execution of the story, or the repetitive nature of its game-play. Using a cliche, in the most appropriated terms of story context, is what I'd like to see more. It's like the "Deus ex machina" plot twist. A "Deus ex machina" has the potential to drive the story forwards in the most subtle, and near-flawless way possible. So subtle, that the audience won't be able to see it. And that's what I'd like to call "proper usage of a Deus ex machina". The opposite side of this is the same as "unappropriated usage of story cliches". Hopefully, I made my point here clear and simple for everyone to read.
Good. At least you cleared my misconception in this statement of yours. I thought you were Generalizing "every" Star Wars, Star Trek, Sci-Fi, (or gamer) to being massive nerdy whining fan-boys. |
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| Master0fDoritos | Oct 9 2010, 06:41 PM Post #48 |
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What exactly is executed poorly in the story? I KNOW the gameplay was sub par but the story was a great pickup to the original trilogy. There are no flaws in the writing. It was too simple a story to screw up. The only real flaw was the corny over night relationship with Juno. But you can blame good ol' George for that. He told the TFU team Marek needs a love interest :rolleyes: I would have rather seen an unloving brutal guy who really doesn't realize that he has feelings until the end. Blegh.... feelings.... egh |
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| Grant SK | Oct 16 2010, 12:36 AM Post #49 |
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The first review is out. GameInformer: 7.75 They said the game is short. |
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| HK-47 | Oct 29 2010, 01:17 PM Post #50 |
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Both Gametrailers.com and IGN are very negative in their reviews, they get average scores. They both think the game is way too repetetive and short. From the footage I've seen, I can see som reasoning in that, but I wasn't going to buy it anyway, they already tricked me into buying TFU, and it is said that gameplay wise this one is actually worse. The only thing improved are the visuals... And I hate Juno's new design. |
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| JCarter426 | Oct 29 2010, 02:48 PM Post #51 |
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Then what makes it any different than the first? This is why I hate sites like these. |
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| Revan 411 | Oct 29 2010, 08:42 PM Post #52 |
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I love it when my predictions are right. ![]() See, I told you folks. The Force Unleashed 2 was going to be horrible, no matter what the circumstances are. Thankfully, I never bought it, and as such, I was able to save up my money for something more extraordinary.
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| Grant SK | Nov 2 2010, 05:46 PM Post #53 |
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I borrowed TFU2 from my suitemate last night and beat it in three hours on hard. The game is okay, perhaps a bit better than the first. The reason why it was rated so low is just because there is almost no new content and it's ridiculously short. The only new features are the mind-trick (kind of funny for laughs, but useless to actually level up), Starkiller's ability to use two sabers (doesn't really make a difference; a shame you don't have the option to use just one), and new enemy types. The new enemies are actually pretty fun to fight; there are giant droids with shields that you need to force push away to actually do any damage to them. These variants have ice or flame throwers, and they take a lot of damage. Jump troopers are new to the series as well, but a simple shock of lightning sends them flying. Perhaps the most interesting new enemy is the Terror Trooper. These guys have the ability to teleport away from you, which makes them insanely hard to hit. Use lightning on them, though, and you can finish them off rather quickly. The boss fight with the Gorog (huge thing from trailer #1 that ate the rancor) is long, but pretty fun. Unfortunately there's no fight against Boba Fett. In fact, the most screen time he has is during the one cutscene that was revealed with him awhile back. The narrative is mediocre at best. Bringing Starkiller back as a clone felt cheap, and many times I didn't know why I was doing what the game was telling me to do. Starkiller goes to Dagobah for a cutscene. That's it... You walk around collecting free holocrons for about 30 seconds, a scene plays, and then you're off. The creative team at LucasArts probably really wanted Yoda in the game, but how he was implemented made no sense. The gameplay works, and it's fun for a playthrough. If you enjoyed the first one, you'll probably be a bit let down by the second because it doesn't move the franchise forward and it's really short. If you're going to play this game I suggest that you rent it. I'd probably rate it a 7/10. |
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| Omaru | Nov 12 2010, 09:06 PM Post #54 |
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theres more cutscenes that unlock story as you beat the challenge mode, but some of the challenges seem to be hitting the right sequence of buttons to perform 'yay' attack, I did the deflecting rockets challenge to see a cutscene then decided that when I can be bothered, I'll watch the others on youtube, hopefully they'll add to the main game's story which was as mentioned previously, almost nonexistant. |
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| ...bman999 | Nov 13 2010, 01:41 AM Post #55 |
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So... what??? "Play the game well or we'll detract from your story experience!" Come on Lucas Arts, come up with a good idea! :mellow: |
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| Omaru | Nov 14 2010, 09:08 PM Post #56 |
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It was a flash animation type cutscene, like an animated comic (for all I know it could've been lifted from the comic adaptation.) |
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| mr_dad | Dec 21 2010, 12:01 AM Post #57 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWZ7hkYYkA I disliked the game's original Dark ending. I wouldn't say you've beaten the game if you get killed to no avail. I re edited the Darkside Enidng so that you still survive, but there is unfortunate consequences for killing Vader. |
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| Sith Holocron | Dec 21 2010, 01:53 AM Post #58 |
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Mr Dad, did you use the original version of Force Unleashed or the "Ultimate Sith Edition"? |
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| Darthslim108 | Dec 21 2010, 01:54 AM Post #59 |
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I like that idea, and I thought the music was really good, but it doesn't make much sense. Why would Juno die just because you killed Vader? Nothing happens that affects her directly (unless she saw you kill him and lost the will to live :lol: ). Of course, I disliked the original dark side ending for the same reason. If Vader's loyal assassin clone was there the whole time, he should have been in the light side ending as well. It takes away the impact of your choice when other stuff happens that you had no control over. Nice video though, I think it might work better as an alternate sad light side ending. |
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| mr_dad | Dec 21 2010, 03:06 AM Post #60 |
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There is no Sith Edition for TFU2. I'm planning the post this on filefront.com so that if you have the PC version for TFU2 you can replace the original Dark Side Ending with this one. |
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