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Roton the Destroyer; Why?
Topic Started: Nov 26 2012, 12:32 PM (561 Views)
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I'm not sure how I feel about this card. My initial knee-jerk reaction was "what the hell?", but after thinking about it a little more, maybe it'd be nice to summon a decent blocker / attacking monster later in the game. It's solid enough, I suppose. I still feel like the "Rare" status is kinda wasted on it.

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WanderingCaptain3972
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I think like Hydrobot Crab and Writhing Bone Ghoul this was intended as one of their intended to be bad cards so that new duelists could learn to identify a coaster on their own. I remember that Earthpower and Thundersultan mentioned something about them having that as their justification for having such painfully bad cards. Pretty weak reasoning in my opinion, but coasters are a fact of life in TCG's.
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In my opinion it's too high of a cost and there are better turn 7 plays than him. Dream Pirate is much better since it's lower cost and has decent power/cost ratio and it can just sit there until you need him most (whether to block or finish off the opponent).
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@Captain: Interesting. I didn't know they did that. Seems a little silly. Oh well.

@Raptor: Yeah, my point exactly. The card's pretty weak. It might be okay if you have nothing else. Not to mention there's no real support for Evil Toy combos, so that's out the window too.
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If they didnt print "bad" cards, then there would be farrrr too much power creep in any said card game. By printing bad cards for filler and what not - it gives people the ability to recognize what's good and not good, as well as keep the game from powering itself out of relevance.

That said, this card is just bad. ESPECIALLY for a rare. I, unfortunately, have pulled 4...
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Dec 8 2012, 10:55 PM
I, unfortunately, have pulled 4...
lmao. That's terrible. You probably can't even give them away.
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Dec 8 2012, 10:55 PM
If they didnt print "bad" cards, then there would be farrrr too much power creep in any said card game. By printing bad cards for filler and what not - it gives people the ability to recognize what's good and not good, as well as keep the game from powering itself out of relevance.

That said, this card is just bad. ESPECIALLY for a rare. I, unfortunately, have pulled 4...
I have 3 or 4 myself... Along with like 12 King Bullfang and tons of other bad rares...
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Mandatory article.
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Dec 11 2012, 08:03 PM
Excellent read. Thanks!
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BioMasterZap
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Good article, but I think some of you may be judging the card a bit too harshly to begin with. I consider 4K power to be rather respectable. To have that on a blocker without any limits on how it can attack is pretty good. The 7 cost is a tad high, but it still isn't that terrible. Darkness may have blockers, but most can't attack with banishing themselves or die after they block. So if you're playing mono-darkness, this may be one of the few viable choices for a darkness, sad as it is (Although if you're playing mono darkness I wouldn't expect you to want blockers).
Also, the only other blockers without guard, skirmishers, or a suicide effect like All Teeth that come to my mind are Very Rares or Super Rares. And of course the higher rarity will beat the lower rarity... I think it can even pass as a rare, although uncommon could have worked to. If t he card was 1 cost lower or 1K attack better, I'd say it would actually be pretty amazing then. I mean a 6 cost 4K blocker with no negatives or a 7 cost 5K blocker with no negatives? If it were a 6 cost 5K blocker with no negatives, I could see it being one of the foil rarities! It would be even more interesting if it kept the same cost and power and had double breaker.
So it may not be a good card and I can't say it would be what I'd want to see in a draft, but I'd say it is at least decent. The real problem is no one wants to spend 7 mana on a weak blocker that is also an attacker. At the mana stage they want a strong blocker or a stronger attack.
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A level 6 blocker for 5000 power wouldn't be good. Roton is miserably crappy.

If you admit it's not a good card and not exactly what you want to see in a draft, how can you say it's decent? :/

And the kinds of decks that want to go mono-darkness (Chimera beatdown with [card]Scavenging Chimera[/card]) don't want Roton.
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A level 6 blocker with 5K power with no attacking restriction as a rare would be pretty good. Especially for darkness. At the moment I don't expect Roton to be used, but in the future he may just be useful. How so? Maybe in the future there will be a card that gives a +2K buff, or other effects, to Evil Toys. That could make him pretty worthwhile then.
Still, I feel most people are comparing him more to Very Rares and Super Rares Blockers than to Rare Blockers. Having blocker without skirmisher, guard, or other mechanics has always made the cost seem unreasonable (and by that I am referring to Duel Masters). I am not sure what more you're really expecting it to be, besides non-existent.
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Yeah I've got to agree with you guys, it sucks. Unless they do something REALLY worthwhile with evil toys, this guy will be pretty much useless. It may be just one of those misunderstood cards, but I seriously doubt it.
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Personally, I see it as the new Night Master, Shadow of Decay (6, Ghost, 3K, Blocker). I think we can all agree that card is lacking. But, 5 sets later Duel Masters got Frost Specter, Shadow of Age (3, Ghost/Evolution, 5K, each of your Ghosts has Slayer). Now a 3K blocker for 6K may seem bad, even if it is an attacker. But a 3K Blocker with Slayer for 6K is much more useful. Still, I doubt it saw too much play outside a Darkness only Ghost Deck.
So yah, Roton isn't a great card, and probably not a good card. But I think it is a bit better than Night Master since 4K can survive better against removal and could block most Rush creatures. At the moment I doubt anyone will use outside of Sealed. But if Evil Toys get some good support, I can see it being worth playing. Imagine if it got +2K and gained Slayer through a card or two =P I could see it be worth consideration then at least.
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