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| Kefka Palazzo | May 5 2013, 10:42 AM Post #1 |
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| Kefka Palazzo | May 6 2013, 01:12 PM Post #16 |
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As I posted on Dojo, I would not at all be surprised to see a removal spell or spells in this or the next set that banishes based on level or power, w/o targeting. Such a card or cards would be plenty to make Immolator nothing more than a huge, but manageable threat. |
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| christopherclaybern | May 6 2013, 01:41 PM Post #17 |
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Card should say the following: "When this creature enters the battle zone, your opponent immediately goes to scoop phase and shakes your hand for game or match." Just my funny thoughts to this card from this weekend while talking to KeeperofGraves about it. The card is interesting. We all knew the Monarchs would be nuts because they are the most powerful creatures in the realm. No reason to complain about that. I think though that the other monarchs will have to be part of a race that can get accelerated in as well. I am sure we will begin to see that in each set going forward. At least I hope. |
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| Kefka Palazzo | May 6 2013, 02:42 PM Post #18 |
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lol, or Herald gets a ban/restriction... TBH, I wouldn't be sad to see Herald go; I think it's more of an issue than either Infernus, or Andromeda. |
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| WanderingCaptain3972 | May 6 2013, 06:33 PM Post #19 |
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It looks very intimidating. Until I see more of the set I am not worried by it. Is it a huge step up the power curve? Undeniably. Will it prove to be as balanced with the other options available to counter it? The history of the games balance leaves me thinking it will have equally "broken" counters to it that it won't truly be broke. Andromeda has proven as troublesome as everyone is fearing, but I liked the concept they were working with in designing the card. Very few games that I've played that don't have to address a card that slips past the playtesting teams. And I have no idea how big and experienced the playtest team is for Kaijudo. But long story short I'm not afraid of getting hit by a falling cloud yet. |
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| Nerafim | May 20 2013, 05:57 AM Post #20 |
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Now look here. The problem with this card is that even despite the high levels and the difficulties in using it, it's still the strongest single play in the game. If it's the strongest play, then people will obviously find the best ways to rush to it while countering everything along the way, and I think that will be pretty easy to accomplish on top of it all. It's not that you can't beat it, but cards like Immolator are kind of meh because of how they warp the game. Simply put, the entire meta can easily become "Black and White", between what abuses Immolator (and similar Monarchs at once) and what does not, which is kind of shallow and kills the depth of strategy. Sure, I'd still play along myself, but that kind of meta polarizing is something that's usually not healthy for card games as far as I experienced it. Also, all of the counters we are trying to come up against it do NOT actually work in any easy, satisfying way. You generally have to jump through hoops or make Rub-Goldstein devices to get any of those to work against Immolator, which is just <,<. -Nera |
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| Mikara | May 20 2013, 06:48 AM Post #21 |
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Right. That is my issue with it as well. I can see plenty of ways to get /rid/ of him. Players will /always/ find at least a few counters to such things;. Nor am I saying a deck built with it in mind cant be beat luck and a few counter strategies will always be able to manage such cards every now and then. The issue is as Nera said, this card literally shapes the game in one card. Think about that. A single card could make an entire deck irrelevant. Its that it limits deck variety. Now. Alone, this card entering the deck populace is not actually /that/ bad. Its its supporting cast that unfortunately makes it terrifying meta wise. But when you have cards like bottles of wishes and Herald.... Yeah, this card is awesome but its sad to see them make a meta warping card. Lets just hope there isn't a card that lets you rig deck order... Edit: I realized right when I posted I should clarify, that this card among other things will ALSO be ultra-rare. So the effect on the meta will not be as gigantic as my analysis appears to let on. Yet it will have a hugely disproportionate impact nonetheless, especially at a tournament level. Edited by Mikara, May 20 2013, 06:55 AM.
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Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it. Terry Pratchett | |
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| Sacramento Tzar | May 20 2013, 06:09 PM Post #22 |
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Well slayer doesn't target so that is one way to deal with him. There is that fire/darkness card that gives one of your creatures slayer and the ability to attack untapped creatures. But even that assumes you will have a creature on the board to give those abilities to after they nuke 8k worth of power off of your board and that they won't have a blocker to just stop that attack. |
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| PMysterious | May 21 2013, 07:31 PM Post #23 |
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Herald Of Infernus + Fight + this = Your opponent saying "Well, I'm screwed." That is, if Terror Pit and Root Trap are not splashed. |
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