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| Big Ronnie | Jan 15 2009, 09:37 AM Post #16 |
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Randy pictures like this one bring back ole memberies of alot of good times that I had with David.Men David and his family lived within seeing distance of Robert's house and he grew up in the middle of all of Robert's dogs.Him and Randy had the opportunity to hunt some of Robert's dogs that most of us only know of them by seeing their name on ped. papers.He drove to La. to my house one time and spent a couple of weeks with me. I learned real quick that he was a real coon hunter,he wasn't a couple hour a night coon hunter he was a all nighter and would hunt to daylight with you.It was a month after David went back to Grassy Cove Tn. before the coons got over their neverousness on Lake Yucatan here in La. Big Ronnie |
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100% Kemmer Stock Mtn. Curs Home of Ronnie's Ole Trouble-Yellow Jack- 7/8 Gold Nugget Blackjack and BJ Buck stock" ![]() ![]() Ronnie Taylor p.o. box 413 Mangham,La 71259 (318)-614-8649 Laree's cell phone 318-680-1128 | |
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| TURBO DOG | Jan 15 2009, 11:31 AM Post #17 |
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Well guys, here is a little question for you!! In your opinion, do you think that an 'open trailing dog' has a colder or better nose than a 'silent trailing dog'?? Does the silent trailer put up coon quicker because he is silent or is it because he runs only the hotter tracks? Do you think the excitement level for a silent dog would be enough to pick up an old feeder track or walking track that would be deemed to be cold? I have seen open trailing dog that I wouldn't have because of lack of ability to move a track with any speed and I have seen wide open trailing dogs that would throw there head up and haul boogy cutting the track til it was hot then run to catch. So the ability to run a track, open or silent, is not what I am asking. I would not want any dog that cannot move a track with some speed. The first silent cur dog I ever hunted with was Lloyd Herring's Buck dog and he could flat tree coon and was dead silent. I like that but, like Ben, I love to unravel a track by the tone of my mutt in 'full cry'. You guy give me some opinions!! |
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CHARLES FASOLA 61927 PINE CONE LN, ANGIE, LA 70426;cell 985-516-4763 http://treeprokennels.webs.com/ fasolacharles@yahoo.com ![]() "NATURAL TREE DOGS ARE BORN NOT MADE" | |
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| James_Jamison | Jan 15 2009, 12:08 PM Post #18 |
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Charlie, I kinda feel like a silent mouth dog will put a coon up quicker because the coon won't know he is coming until he's right on him. I don't know if being silent or open mouth has any correlation between hot or cold tracking ability. The one farm I hunt has a lot of coon hunting done with hounds and I know that if you show up there with an open track dog, you'll find them in a hole before long. Those coon have been ran hard and they know what to do when they hear a dog bark. You'll hardle strike more than one coon either. But, the place has tons of coon tracks. I'm going to drop Wally in there in the next couple of weeks and I almost bet he surprises one and gets it treed. I would almost bet also that only one coon will be treed, the others will hit the holes when they hear him treeing. |
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I hunt the "PURE" KEMMER MEAT DOGS. No byproducts!!!! JAMES JAMISON | |
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| born2hunt | Jan 15 2009, 12:58 PM Post #19 |
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I like to hear a good coon race with either open or semi-open dogs. Most of the curs I've ever hunted with that opened any on a track would move the track fast(running to catch)
. It just seems like a silent mouth dog is on them before they know what is happening.I don't know how cold of a nose other silent mouth dogs have, but I seen both Ol'Joe and Sam tree in front of some cold nosed blueticks and plotts. Alot of times they would be giving their locating barks at the tree right at the time the hounds were striking on the track. I think they were actually drifting the track to get to the hotter end instead of trailing like a hound though. Both of these dogs would hunt at a fast trot with heads up and go deep if nothing was found close. I was always amazed at their winding power when we road hunted them. If you ever saw one of them stop and throw their head up before taking off into the woods you knowed it wasn't going to be long before you were looking at one. |
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Randy Phipps 357 Cedar Hills Rd. Grandview,Tn (931)456-2469 | |
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| Big Ronnie | Jan 15 2009, 01:12 PM Post #20 |
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Charles I know that people have different opinons about how they want their dog to hunt and so on and I'm one of them.When I first started to hunting the mtn. cur dogs what impressed me first thing was (TN. Mtn. Rusty)was the first mtn. cur that I owned and up to then I had always hunted with blueticks which would most of the time take a cold track and work it and work it untill it got to be a hot track and they treed.Old Tn. Mtn. Rusty wouldn't fool with no cold track very long beore he would drop it and go find something hotter to work with.Immediately I was looking at 3 times or more treed coons a night than I ever did with the blueticks.I'm not saying that Rusty was a better coon dog than someones hounds but where I live here in La. we have always had good supply of coons to hunt which makes all the difference in hunting.With plenty of coons to hunt and Rusty being a silent dog,you never heard a word out of him untill he had his mind made up which tree mr. coon was in or you heard him and the coon haveing a showdown on the ground is what made me and Laree have to skin more coons the next morning.Rusty treed somewhere around 8 to 12 coons a night and I remember one morning after a long nights hunt while Rusty slept all morning while me and Laree skined 21 coons and a mink that Rusty just couldn't pass up the opportunity to kill.Our type of hunting might or would be totally different if we were hunting where the coons are few and far between where your dog needs to work all the track he can.Even now as I coon hunt for pleasure I still like a silent dog because I feel like they don't give mr coon but 2 choices (climb something quick or fight for his life)Big Ronnie |
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100% Kemmer Stock Mtn. Curs Home of Ronnie's Ole Trouble-Yellow Jack- 7/8 Gold Nugget Blackjack and BJ Buck stock" ![]() ![]() Ronnie Taylor p.o. box 413 Mangham,La 71259 (318)-614-8649 Laree's cell phone 318-680-1128 | |
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| Deleted User | Jan 16 2009, 11:57 AM Post #21 |
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I don't know if it has anything to do with hot or cold nosed or not but I have seen ol boomer pull-up treed 2-5 min. ahead of hounds on the same track, he would play shut mouth & be quit a ways ahead of them, I have also saw him wind & tree coon & sq. that other dogs didn't know were in the woods , as for silent or open track dogs & which one has a better nose I don't know but ol boomer has treed quit a few both ways. Hunt what you like & thank GOD for the blessing . GOD BLESS you all, Roger B. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 16 2009, 02:38 PM Post #22 |
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I hunt a son off of b.j. buck an woodens double blondie iv that has treed alot of coon for me. He is a n.k.c. an k.s.b.a. nt. champion. He is a bawl mouthed track dog, chops when the track gets hotter. Locates with a dying bawl. Then triple chops on tree.He has sold me on the kemmers for life!! good hunting yall. :ph43r:
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| born2hunt | Jan 16 2009, 10:01 PM Post #23 |
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That's the wonderful part of these Kemmers being such a versatile and eager to please breed. There is something for every hunter. How many other breeds do you see out there today that produces hog dogs, coon dogs, squirrel dogs, bear dogs, and big cat dogs all in the same litter
. I've also seen litters that some were open while others from the same litter were silent on track. An example of this was Phipps' Smokin' Joe x Kemmers Blondie's Runt. From what we heard they all made coon and squirrel dogs, but some were open on coon while others were silent. |
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Randy Phipps 357 Cedar Hills Rd. Grandview,Tn (931)456-2469 | |
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| treedog45 | Jan 19 2009, 12:12 PM Post #24 |
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I was wondering what bloodlines within the breed has produced the best coondogs? I have a young male dog that has Ronnies Ole Trouble, Kemmers Yellow Target, Kemmers Gold Nugget, Kemmers Yellow Bob, Kemmers Gold Matt, KZ Biscuit, Kemmers Yellow Jack and Herrings TJ in the second generation on the male side. He seems to be doing very good and most of his litter mates have good reports of making good treedogs. I coonhunt my dogs. I haven't really gotten in to the squirrel hunting yet, but as I am getting older I may start doing some squirrel hunting. I know that their are a lot of people out there that know a lot more about the breed than I do and was just wanting to get the best advice of what dogs over time has produced the best coondogs.
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Dennis Miller 214 State Hwy N Blythedale,Mo. 64426 660-867-5110 | |
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. It just seems like a silent mouth dog is on them before they know what is happening.
. I've also seen litters that some were open while others from the same litter were silent on track. 
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