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baying instinct----info and advice needed
Topic Started: Jun 6 2009, 12:01 AM (605 Views)
monkey49
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I have never hog hunted with dogs and know nothing much about it. My pup shadrack is a treeing fool!!he loves to tree when he can find game and is acurate and will timber pretty good. He has come up with a new game of herding the horses and the neighbors cows. he will stay in front of them barking and jumping back and forth without contac---if they try to run off he will run in and grab ankles or tails. when they stop or turn he is back in front barking his head off.is this a baying instinct coming out or boredom , will he tire of it or does tri-tronics need be applied he has been kicked more than once like a football and it seems to make it worse next time......any suggestions or advice????????
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Best thing you can do is get rid of that trashing, no good for nothing dog! How much do you want for him? :lol:

I can't speak for the tree hunters and how they break dogs from it, but I reckon a shock collar, used correctly, could stop him from messing with the livestock?

But if the shock collar doesn't cure him, give me a call. ;)

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If you don't mind do nothing about it, but if you plan to comp hunt or just don't like it a shock collar will do the trick. Most dotgs if brought up with them will break themselves off of them but dogs not brought up around them will usually run and bay them when they see them.

My old Bo Dog would run them whenever he saw them and Juice when she was 8 or 9 months old Took a kick to the head while giving chase lol We were a good ways off and it sure sounded like it hurt :P Neither were brought up around them and both had to be shocked.
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The trouble I have is with young dogs wanting to bay cattle. This time of year, the cows usually have calves on them, and the dogs can get you caught up in a stampede pretty easily. I wouldn't mind it so much, if the young dog would run off some other direction when the herd gets after them, but it seems they always run to me, especially when coon hunting at night, and the cows are black and hard to see. It will get a shock collar really quick if it happens more than once with me.
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Like Dee said,Get rid of him and how much. :lol: My new pup rared up on my front porch post chasing a lizard yesterday,thought I was going to throw up,I told him to get down before he ended up at the pound! :lol:
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My new pup rared up on my front porch post chasing a lizard yesterday,thought I was going to throw up,I told him to get down before he ended up at the pound!



LMAO.....now that's funny :P :D :lol:
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thanks for the help. figured it might be instinct coming out. hate to use shock collar but he has to stop. he will keep a cow or horse spinning in circles and acts like its the best thing he ever found to do.when his ribs get well-[got kicked again] i will make it a shocking experience for him. he is so sore rite now he treed and barked/screamed 9 barks a minute. That kick knocked about110----120 barks outta him.!! :blink:
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He will probably learn on his own,he`ll learn or they will kill him,There`s one thing about it,you`ll see what kind of sense he has,if he keeps them spinning you would hate to break his spirit,personally,I would let them kick him a couple more times to see,if you gonna be dumb,you gotta be T U F F ! It`s just an opinion,Good Luck. :D
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If 'he' were a 'she, and yellow, I'd be making you an offer on that dog. Hate to see a square peg forced into a round hole.
Dogs with that kind of grit and determination are a big game hunters dream. But either way, I sure hope he works out for you. I know you're better off with a problem like that than with a dog that won't do anything at all.

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thanks for the advice and info. i like to leave a pup run loose and let nature take its course. If bred into a dog it will come out. they then learn what you dont want. shadrack has lived in the barn with horses since i brought him home.this sudden interest in horses and the neighbors cows just hit him. kinda figured it was the hog hunting thing coming out in him. i have hunted treedogs all my life and enjoy them. i am sure he will quit fooling with the baying stuff when i start dropping squirrel on him.If not.....he just might become a texas resident~
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Monkey 49 if you would put the shocking collar on Shadrack and you and him go horse and cow hunting for about 2 or 3 evenings he will stop running or fooling with them at all. After two or three days of this he should turn completely around and hate to even see a cow or horse. This is the way I broke Ole Trouble from running deer. He would run them as long as he could see them and after the 2nd. evening of me and him rideing through the woods with his shocking collar on when he would see one run across the road in the woods he would lay down and whine. He wanted nothing to do with the deer no more.....Big Ronnie
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mr Ronnie, shadrac moved into the barn with horses when i brought him home. he got kicked and stepped on a couple of times and got to where he paid no attention to them. Sweety got her horse out to ride and i guess it triggered the instinct to bay. he acted up so bad we put him in the horse trailer.when we turned him out he went streight to the pasture and started. he then found that cows are even easier to play with.his last encounter a mare got him in the ribs and it sounded like busting a watermellon on the road :P . he has treed sq. since then but it hurts him to bark. he went from 130+barks a min. to about 9 or 10. he has given them no attention since. if he does tri-tronics will have a shocking experience for him.
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I would be ready for him. It sounds like he might have learned something but I really doubt it though. More than likely as soon as he gets over this soreness the want to do it again will be there and when it does I would turn him a flip everytime he got even close to them and it won't be long before he will figure it out (stay away dfrom them). It sounds like Ole Gambler is putting the hunt into his pups though and thats a good thing for me to hear.We have 2 male pups that are bred almost just like him left for sale. They are all Lill Fiddle crossed with the 3/4 Gold Nugget blood. This is the project I'm working on now and Ole Shadrack has just let me know that the 3/4 Nugget and Ole Trouble blood is a sure way to go................Big Ronnie
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Monkey49 how is Shadrack doing? Has he bothered the horses or cows anymore? Just wandering..........Big Ronnie
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Mr Ronnie, so far he stands back and watches them or will lay down with head on paws and watch. I think he got broke ribs on his last outing. has not chased anymore. still treeing anything he can get to climb. barking more too!!maybe he has learned a lesson. I am gonna start trapping coon and turning loose in front of him. His aggression level is not high enough to let him catch one but it wont be long.
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