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Topic Started: Mar 16 2010, 09:22 PM (427 Views)
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I HAVE HERD THE STORYS AND KNOW THERE IS bad blood but why don't the kemmer association allow the mountain view curs to reg.. as kemmers I hear there are some really good kemmer blood in these dogs. Do you think it would help the breed or is it the same blood that is already here I am not trying to start trouble just curious...
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All the dogs Bloodgood used in his MVC were not of Kemmer Stock, if it is not 100% Kemmer Cur it is not a Kemmer Cur.
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Well, my take on it, the founder of the MVC's, got all his dogs for free from Robert Kemmer, then in an attempt to make a name for himself, started that registry and started running down the KSBA and Robert Kemmer, who gave him his dogs in the first place, so why would the KSBA want to register those dogs now?
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EXACTLY, took the words from my mouth James. Brad there are a lot of dogs out there with some good kemmer blood in them but pure kemmer dogs don't have no other kind of blood in them and they don't need no other blood in them. You don't know what has been bred into the MVC's in the past or into anything else with some kemmer in them and thats their buisness what they put into their dogs but we don't want it in ours. We want them to stay 100% PURE KEMMER forever. KemmerSmiley .............Big Ronnie
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dbbishop
Mar 16 2010, 09:22 PM
I HAVE HERD THE STORYS AND KNOW THERE IS bad blood but why don't the kemmer association allow the mountain view curs to reg.. as kemmers I hear there are some really good kemmer blood in these dogs. Do you think it would help the breed or is it the same blood that is already here I am not trying to start trouble just curious...
Brad, the KSBA books are closed to any outside dogs. We have a good diversity of blood in our foundation dogs that should sustain and improve the Kemmer dog for many generations to come.

Plus the fact that the KSBA compromised our Kemmer dogs years ago by allowing the 75% Rule which allow dogs to be registered as white paper Kemmers with at least 75% foundation blood.

This was done in an attemp as a transition to help folks that used the KSBA registry to register their MT Cur dogs but also wanted to breed to Foundation Kemmers and increase the % of Kemmer blood to qualify as White Paper Kemmers.

This was good for a lot of folks but created problems for some folks that was not pro Kemmer thus creating some 'bad blood', if you will.

SO, in the end we COMPROMISED OUR DOGS! but as for as I am concerned, today, all our White Papered dogs should be considered and accepted as Foundation dogs as these were decisions made by the KSBA.

With that being said, the genitic make up of our Kemmer dogs can range from highly inbred/linebred dogs to a vast varity of combinations that can excell on all types of game.

These Kemmer dogs are know for their GAME FINDING ABILITY be it squirrels to bear and the versatility to handle most any hunting situation plus just dang good all around dogs.

There will always be a few folks that will try and alter these dogs via false papering and such but this BREED ASSOCIATION is VIGILANT in trying to preserve these dogs with a group of dedicted Kemer fanciers.

The KSBA tries in earnest to keep acturate records of these Kemmer dogs through our registry. We have no controll of what any outside registry has done in the past or present so we definitely would not allow any outside dogs.



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Several years ago KSBA decided to keep the Kemmer Stock dogs as pure as we can and by mandating that at least one side of the breeding must be 100% Kemmer if the other side is green paper will or has made all Kemmers white paper in two generations. I agree 100% but there is always a "BUT", we can find ourselfs breeding too close after a while. Fortunately our registry is large enough to outcross without going outside the fondution stock, I trully believe there may be a need in the future to breed to less then 100% Kemmer, 75, 80, 90% maybe but at least for now I'll stick with the 100% stock.
I don't believe there's any dogs from another registry that can "IMPROVE" our dogs.
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Thats the stuff I wanted to hear I was just curious about it. I had heard the stories but I did not know The whole fact of the matter I just talked to MR. Kemmer and got the story straight frome the horses mouth so to speak. I was not wanting a MVC I was just wanting the facts.
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There are different "lines" of Kemmer dogs that really allow you to "break" up a tight line breeding program and still use Kemmer dogs.
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Mar 17 2010, 12:38 PM
Thats the stuff I wanted to hear I was just curious about it. I had heard the stories but I did not know The whole fact of the matter I just talked to MR. Kemmer and got the story straight frome the horses mouth so to speak. I was not wanting a MVC I was just wanting the facts.
A wise man will go to the 'horses mouth' when he needs to know something about these dogs!!

I use it often!! B)
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Mar 17 2010, 01:28 PM
There are different "lines" of Kemmer dogs that really allow you to "break" up a tight line breeding program and still use Kemmer dogs.
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