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What ISIS Really Wants
Topic Started: Feb 16 2015, 09:34 AM (174 Views)
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I'm still reading this. It looks like it might be a good article though. I've not really gotten any good answers about this group, what its about, where it came from and why they are so pissed off. I've not gotten good answers about their funding and training either. I'm just supposed to forget all my skepticism and be outraged at their barbarity along with everyone else. Don't get me wrong, I think these people are savages, but I'd like some more and better answers instead of being treated like a 5 year old.
What ISIS Really Wants
So, I'll be reading this later after I shovel out.
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I guess they want to usher in the apocalypse and conquer Rome. :end:

Rev. Graham: ‘Imagine the Outcry if 21 Muslims Had Been Beheaded by Christians? … The Storm is Coming’
By Michael W. Chapman / CNSNews
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The brutal killing of the 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians, who had been abducted in Libya by members of the Islamic State, was videotaped and the entire death film was posted online on Sunday, Feb. 15. It is entitled, “A Message Signed With Blood, To The Nation of the Cross.”

If you read the top article, the nation of the cross is Italy, specifically Rome.
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Oh here's some more.
Why does ISIS keep making enemies?
By Peter Bergen, CNN National Security Analyst
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A key window into understanding ISIS is its English language "in-flight magazine" Dabiq. Last week the seventh issue of Dabiq was released, and a close reading of it helps explains ISIS' world view.

The mistake some make when viewing ISIS is to see it as a rational actor. Instead, as the magazine documents, its ideology is that of an apocalyptic cult that believes that we are living in the end times and that ISIS' actions are hastening the moment when this will happen.

The name of the Dabiq magazine itself helps us understand ISIS' worldview. The Syrian town of Dabiq is where the Prophet Mohammed is supposed to have predicted that the armies of Islam and "Rome" would meet for the final battle that will precede the end of time and the triumph of true Islam.

In the recent issue of Dabiq it states: "As the world progresses towards al-Malhamah al-Kubrā, ('the Great Battle' to be held at Dabiq) the option to stand on the sidelines as a mere observer is being lost." In other words, in its logic, you are either on the side of ISIS or you are on the side of the Crusaders and infidels.
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ISIS plans to invade Europe through Libya – report
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These crazy people need to be stopped! The only reason I can think of that they would be into video taping Christian people being murdered is because they are sick like Uday Hussein. He used to enjoy watching torture tapes and snuff films.

Obviously these sick people are non-humans because they have been separated from all human characteristics. All people have value. Not just unfeeling pawns to be killed to make some creepy point.

I get truly scared and nervous thinking about ISIS. It's impossible to wrap a normal caring mind around the wicked depths of evil in these people's warped souls.
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Agree, they are complete psychopaths.
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Here's another article I had book marked:
ISIS plans to invade Europe through Libya – report

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The Book of Revelations 6:9-11
When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also.
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Just finished reading ISIS article. It's a long article but information packed.

It appears that other members of ISIS think Istanbul will be the site of epic battle to end all battles.
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As far as justifying the murder beheading of 21 Coptic Christians by calling them"crusaders" makes no sense.

They have been there for 2000 years. The word crusaders implies the Coptic's are invaders. How can people who have been there for 2000 years be considered invaders.

That's like saying the Native American people were invaders/crusaders at the time of the genocide against them.

It just proves the mental gymnastics guilty murders will go through to justify themselves and deflect blame for their actions onto the victims.
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Actually twisting the situation around is usual for guilty people or manipulative people. It mostly shows how far gone these"people" are.

It appears that many extremists of any kind play the victims as they actively are killing people. They can claim victimhood even as they are slitting people's throats.

Sort of like when abusive spouses blame the victim or try to create sympathy for themselves by flipping the facts of the situation.
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Good analysis!
They are definitely abusers. They were also calling journalist and humanitarian workers they captured "crusaders" as well.

Oh and the final element of their end of world battles was being cornered in Jerusalem by the armies of Dajal and being saved by Jesus returning.

All of it is just creepy.
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On Europe's doorstep: Islamic State have now infiltrated TURKEY and are 'plotting attack'
MILITANTS from the Islamic State have entered Turkey and are plotting an attack in Ankara and Istanbul, the national intelligence agency reportedly revealed.
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So they are actually going to create a war in Istanbul to set a caliphate up it the center of Islam. That way they can create a central place for sharia government.

According to the article Muslims are encouraged to follow a caliph because that is ideal.

No matter what the whole situation is dangerous. Istanbul is important strategically.
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Well, we can thank Bush et al for this. These ISIS people are Saddam's old homies looking for revenge. Thank Obama et al for not being motivated to care to ensure our blood & treasure expended there wasn't in vain.

The second issue is the one that angers me the most. The fact is that even if we shouldn't have been there we were. It was like Obama didn't care and couldn't disentangle us from there fast enough and now the whole region literally has hell to pay.
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SAS told to 'save last bullet for yourselves' in case of Islamic State capture
BRITAIN'S special forces fighting in Syria and Iraq are under orders not to be captured alive by the brutal Islamic State, it has emerged.

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Good point.

It seems that party politics has made the world unsafe. One group wants wars while the other party ends a war just because the other party started the war. It is stupid and dangerous to end a war just to be contrary.
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