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Apr 13 2018, 01:08 PM
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So, I'm looking for some clarification here, DH had 50% custody of one of the girls at the time, but his ex filed it only under her information, does that seem legit? Technically they were both the custodial parent so in that case would both households be required or just whichever parent wanted to claim them? One of the girls was 18, so no custody on her, the other was 17 with a 50/50 split.
It would be whomever the child spends the majority of time.
If she is at ex's majority it needs to filed with her income.
If she is at your home the majority it needs to filed under your husbands income and your income would be included as well.
Right, but in our case it was 50/50 so there is literally no majority for either parent.

This isn't a huge deal to me now, the girls are 20/21 and it's long done, I'm just curious.
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Apr 13 2018, 01:00 PM
So, I'm looking for some clarification here, DH had 50% custody of one of the girls at the time, but his ex filed it only under her information, does that seem legit? Technically they were both the custodial parent so in that case would both households be required or just whichever parent wanted to claim them? One of the girls was 18, so no custody on her, the other was 17 with a 50/50 split.
It would be whomever the child spends the majority of time.
If she is at ex's majority it needs to filed with her income.
If she is at your home the majority it needs to filed under your husbands income and your income would be included as well.
Right, but in our case it was 50/50 so there is literally no majority for either parent.

This isn't a huge deal to me now, the girls are 20/21 and it's long done, I'm just curious.
In that case it is the person with highest income.
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DarlingDewey
Apr 13 2018, 01:00 PM
So, I'm looking for some clarification here, DH had 50% custody of one of the girls at the time, but his ex filed it only under her information, does that seem legit? Technically they were both the custodial parent so in that case would both households be required or just whichever parent wanted to claim them? One of the girls was 18, so no custody on her, the other was 17 with a 50/50 split.
It would be whomever the child spends the majority of time.
If she is at ex's majority it needs to filed with her income.
If she is at your home the majority it needs to filed under your husbands income and your income would be included as well.
Right, but in our case it was 50/50 so there is literally no majority for either parent.

This isn't a huge deal to me now, the girls are 20/21 and it's long done, I'm just curious.
In that case it is the person with highest income.
Okay, interesting.
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Apr 13 2018, 01:13 PM
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Apr 13 2018, 01:11 PM
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DarlingDewey
Apr 13 2018, 01:00 PM
So, I'm looking for some clarification here, DH had 50% custody of one of the girls at the time, but his ex filed it only under her information, does that seem legit? Technically they were both the custodial parent so in that case would both households be required or just whichever parent wanted to claim them? One of the girls was 18, so no custody on her, the other was 17 with a 50/50 split.
It would be whomever the child spends the majority of time.
If she is at ex's majority it needs to filed with her income.
If she is at your home the majority it needs to filed under your husbands income and your income would be included as well.
Right, but in our case it was 50/50 so there is literally no majority for either parent.

This isn't a huge deal to me now, the girls are 20/21 and it's long done, I'm just curious.
In that case it is the person with highest income.
i was incorrect. I found this:

If the student’s legal parents are divorced or separated, and do not live together, the parent with whom the student primarily lives (often called the custodial parent) should complete the FAFSA. If the parents have 50/50 custody, the FAFSA should be completed by the parent who provides more financial support. This is not necessarily the parent who claims the student on their tax return.
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Apr 13 2018, 01:08 PM
DarlingDewey
Apr 13 2018, 01:00 PM
So, I'm looking for some clarification here, DH had 50% custody of one of the girls at the time, but his ex filed it only under her information, does that seem legit? Technically they were both the custodial parent so in that case would both households be required or just whichever parent wanted to claim them? One of the girls was 18, so no custody on her, the other was 17 with a 50/50 split.
It would be whomever the child spends the majority of time.
If she is at ex's majority it needs to filed with her income.
If she is at your home the majority it needs to filed under your husbands income and your income would be included as well.
Right, but in our case it was 50/50 so there is literally no majority for either parent.

This isn't a huge deal to me now, the girls are 20/21 and it's long done, I'm just curious.
In that case it is the person with highest income.
i was incorrect. I found this:

If the student’s legal parents are divorced or separated, and do not live together, the parent with whom the student primarily lives (often called the custodial parent) should complete the FAFSA. If the parents have 50/50 custody, the FAFSA should be completed by the parent who provides more financial support. This is not necessarily the parent who claims the student on their tax return.
Okay, so technically she could have just claimed that she provided more financial support and then she's not breaking any rules. Thanks.
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When I completed the FAFSA, there wasn't anything that asked for documentation, just the info. I only put down my mom's info. My dad was unemployed at that point, but even if he had been, I was only going to put down my mom's info.

I don't recall anyone in any way questioning the info I provided. I've also never heard of a FAFSA being audited.

Maybe when the time comes, just Hagatha's info is provided?
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Apr 13 2018, 01:28 PM
When I completed the FAFSA, there wasn't anything that asked for documentation, just the info. I only put down my mom's info. My dad was unemployed at that point, but even if he had been, I was only going to put down my mom's info.

I don't recall anyone in any way questioning the info I provided. I've also never heard of a FAFSA being audited.

Maybe when the time comes, just Hagatha's info is provided?
That's what I would push for.
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Apr 13 2018, 01:28 PM
When I completed the FAFSA, there wasn't anything that asked for documentation, just the info. I only put down my mom's info. My dad was unemployed at that point, but even if he had been, I was only going to put down my mom's info.

I don't recall anyone in any way questioning the info I provided. I've also never heard of a FAFSA being audited.

Maybe when the time comes, just Hagatha's info is provided?


I had to submit FAFSAs mulitple times as 3 out of 4 of the kids went to college.

Middle kid's FAFSA was selected for "verification" 3 times over her 4 years of school. I had to submit copies of our tax return and all the associated documents to the school financial aid office her freshman, junior, and senior years. They would then verify that the information all matched what the IRS had on file.
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Good friend went through hell filling out the FAFSA for her daughter last year. Deadbeat Dad never provided a penny in support, she had a restraining order on him for years, and he never saw his daughter after she was three years old. Still, friend had to provide the court orders and at least three letters stating that Deadbeat provided no support to daughter.
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Apr 13 2018, 12:24 PM
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Why does he want to file an amendment for permanent physical custody?
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I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Why does he want to file an amendment for permanent physical custody?
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Apr 13 2018, 10:05 AM
The older I get, the more disadvantages I see to getting married.

Which is a paradox, because I wouldn't have a man who drug his feet about *wanting* to marry me.

But I'LL there are more scenarios where I think marriage is a risk not worth taking than scenarios I think it's perfect.

Young, in love, no kids? Marriage is great.

But once you add in kids or large sums of money, being married takes away more rights and imposes more obligations than it offers benefits.

-the increasingly cynical Ladybugging
Get out of my head.

Dh and I were discussing exactly this last night and how if we could have seen into the future we would have drawn up paperwork that allowed us POA and such, but never gotten married. And we don’t even have kids involved. But financially it’s a really bad idea. We’d be getting money back instead of having a tax bill in the thousands of dollars.
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Why does he want to file an amendment for permanent physical custody?
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Can't DH just keep him? Or is this really about child support?
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How would he just keep him if the mom has physical custody?
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I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Why does he want to file an amendment for permanent physical custody?
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Can't DH just keep him? Or is this really about child support?
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And why is it surprising that a dad would want custody, particularly when the mother is unstable and has a history of allowing her kids to be abused by her flavor of the month?
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I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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It's about child support, welfare, whatever for Hagatha. It's sad.
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For FASFA, DSS lived with ExW until the day he turned 18 with her having primary custody. DSS moved in with us on his 18th. ExW filled out FASFA the first year and so did we. We did not see her info, she did not see ours. She refused to fill it out after that so it was DHs and my info. I actually did the forms, not him. Yes, both of us made too much money for any kind of aid.
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For schools that provide premium financial aid such as my alma mater and Brown (where my LS is), you have to fill out the CSS form in addition to the FAFSA.
It is through the College Board (runs SAT).
Both parents have to fill it out in great detail, no matter who has custody or claims them, and it calculates each parent's out-of-pocket payment separately.

Only fair, I think.
If they are offering to provide $250,000 of free tuition because you are low-income, they have a right to know your parents haven't arranged things to hide the higher-paid parent's income and assets.
Such as dividing custody 51/49 to tip official custody into the poorer parent's favor, so only the low income is used on the FAFSA.

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Wait, the parents were supposed to fill it out? Hahahahahahahahhaaa, no.

My mom didn't know how to operate a computer. She had nothing to do with FAFSA except handing me her tax returns for my " school forms"

My dad isn't even on my birth certificate, so I just didn't put him on there at all. Like he didn't exist. Because I remember if I put in his name, they wanted a social, and hell if I know that.

Not like he was going to help pay for my college anyway, he sent a Navy recruiter to my house on my 18 bday. We were both confused.

Edit, seafaring fighter , not belly button.
Edited by Fluffy Pumpkin, Apr 14 2018, 08:24 PM.
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I’d be really confused, too, if someone was trying to recruit my navel.
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I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Great update, Pennies!
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What a great update! Glad someone stood up to her.

And I love that her own kid mentioned that her behavior wasn't appropriate!
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I'm really glad it worked out (pretty) well. Niece7 is just the right age for that brattiness. It will likely pass, but if it doesn't, disengagement is totally the right move.
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I'm really glad she didn't show up and you were able to have an enjoyable day with your family.
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Yay for you Pennies
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Yaaaaahhhhh and happy 🎂!
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Woot woot!
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Glad it turned out well (minus bratty niece, though that could just be a phase - kids are weird).
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I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Apr 17 2018, 12:13 PM
What a great update! Glad someone stood up to her.

And I love that her own kid mentioned that her behavior wasn't appropriate!
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Yay, Pennees! So glad you could enjoy the day and not worry about her presence.
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Yay!
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Great update.
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Yay what a great update!!
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Excellent update!!! :) :) :)
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Apr 12 2018, 11:11 AM
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Apr 10 2018, 05:28 PM
I have a question, who is paying for the kid's phone? My response depends on that.
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Haven't read the rest of the thread yet.
Sorry I'm so late to respond.
But without a lot of vitriol going on,I just have to say
Fuck that bitch, she has no right.
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