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I'm still sorting my schedule for the week, so I'm not sure if I'm doing the London protest or the one at Blenheim. But I kind of want to see the giant baby Trump.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/06/angry-trump-baby-blimp-fly-london-presidents-uk-visit/

A giant balloon depicting Donald Trump as an angry, orange baby will fly near Parliament during the US president's controversial visit to the UK next week.

Permission for the 20ft (6m) high inflatable, dubbed "Trump Baby", to rise above Parliament Square Gardens for two hours on the morning of Friday July 13 has been granted to protesters by the Greater London Authority.

Mr Trump is expected to arrive in the capital the evening before the planned stunt and is likely to visit Blenheim Palace, meet the Queen at Windsor, hold talks with Prime Minister Theresa May at Chequers, and travel to his golf courses in Scotland during the trip.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan and the American leader have engaged in a long-running war of words over issues like crime and terrorism.

Activist Leo Murray said: "We didn't get off to the best start with the Mayor's office over this, who originally told us that they didn't recognise Trump Baby as legitimate protest.

"But, following a huge groundswell of public support for our plan, it looks like City Hall has rediscovered its sense of humour. Trump Baby will fly."

A spokesman for the Nona Hurkmans group, which is behind the protest, said: "We are just a small group of friends who set out to use humour to take a stand against the rise of racist and fascist politics both here in the UK and over in the US.

The inflatable 'baby' clutches a mobile phone
The inflatable 'baby' clutches a mobile phone
"We have been genuinely overwhelmed and touched by the incredible levels of support we have received for our project."

More than 10,000 people signed a petition calling for the inflatable to be given permission to fly, activists said.
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Keeping it classy! Too bad those 10,000 people don’t get to vote come election time.
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I love that they're doing this.

So sad that they can't be as "classy" as the pussy grabber in chief though, lol. Oh well.
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Since the UK does actually have a titled nobility, class has a specific meaning. It has fuck all to do with public engagement and activitism.
While most of us american immigrants don't have votes in the upcoming november, we'll still remember this dumpster fire for the 2020.
Additionally, citizens of the world have a right to protest against regimes that violate human rights, that destablise and make the world less safe. The UK has a vested interest in the unruly behaviour of the toddler in chief and it's impact on global stability and economics. The tories in particular need to understand that cooperation and capitulation to this regime will cost them.
Seriously though, if you think this is bad, just wait 'til that fucker gets to Scotland.
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I’m so ashamed that this buffoon represents the US now and it’s both funny/fitting and disturbing how other countries are mocking our president.

I was in London in fall 2008 and everyone I met disliked Bush but there wasn’t this virulent disgust.
Edited by Gaping Maw, Jul 9 2018, 08:01 AM.
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I remember how many hated Bush here. I didn’t think it could be topped. I was wrong. And with that I’m off to work. Enjoy your Monday. ^_^
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msrock
Jul 9 2018, 07:21 AM
Keeping it classy! Too bad those 10,000 people don’t get to vote come election time.
Protesting is "classy." I'd rather see a floating orange baby out there to make a point than people resorting to violence.

A giant orange baby on a cell phone is a perfect caricature of Trump - he is orange (bad fake tan), he acts like a baby (see his Twitter rants and other tantrums), and he is unable to put the phone down. He's immature and apparently incapable of acting appropriately in basically any setting (hence the representation as a baby).

It gets the point across without being violent (like the decapitated head stunt) or racist (like the drawings of the Obamas as monkeys).

I think this a great example of an effective way to get your point across to many.

msrock, why are you so insistent that people never speak up and out about a clearly lackluster leader? Would you have preferred it if our forefathers did not protest King George III? Would you be happier if our citizenry did not protest with MLK during the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom? What about the 1987 March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights?

I guess in your world, we should all just sit down and take whatever shit is thrown at us rather than be vocal about our disapproval. I don't accept that and will continue my small part to protest against people like you here and where ever else I can by openly and loudly using my 1st Amendment right to do so.
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I'm fine with the balloon Trump. Imagine how much crime it can see from up there.
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Jul 9 2018, 08:39 AM
I'm fine with the balloon Trump. Imagine how much crime it can see from up there.
And yet, it would still see fewer murders (per capita) than it would in any of the 50 largest US cities.

Perhaps we should fly it here to help prevent crime??
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Jul 9 2018, 09:44 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 08:39 AM
I'm fine with the balloon Trump. Imagine how much crime it can see from up there.
And yet, it would still see fewer murders (per capita) than it would in any of the 50 largest US cities.

Perhaps we should fly it here to help prevent crime??
Good idea. Let it peek into the Oval Office for a bit for a start.
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Jul 9 2018, 09:44 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 08:39 AM
I'm fine with the balloon Trump. Imagine how much crime it can see from up there.
And yet, it would still see fewer murders (per capita) than it would in any of the 50 largest US cities.

Perhaps we should fly it here to help prevent crime??
Swing and a miss.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/04/03/londons-murder-rate-higher-than-new-york-citys/480860002/

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LONDON — When British police launched a murder investigation Tuesday into the shooting death of a 17-year-old girl it pushed the homicide rate in Britain's capital to a new, troubling milestone: London's murder rate surpassed New York City's for the first time.
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Jul 9 2018, 11:01 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 09:44 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 08:39 AM
I'm fine with the balloon Trump. Imagine how much crime it can see from up there.
And yet, it would still see fewer murders (per capita) than it would in any of the 50 largest US cities.

Perhaps we should fly it here to help prevent crime??
Swing and a miss.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/04/03/londons-murder-rate-higher-than-new-york-citys/480860002/

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LONDON — When British police launched a murder investigation Tuesday into the shooting death of a 17-year-old girl it pushed the homicide rate in Britain's capital to a new, troubling milestone: London's murder rate surpassed New York City's for the first time.
In the last 2-3months only---not on annualized figures.

And while NY is certainly one of the 50 largest cities in the US, it's not the highest murder rate at all.

So, yes, you can cherry-pick on data from the last couple of months (i've seen those articles, btw) but it doesn't change the overall fact that you are trying to portray London as being full of crime when it's still better than most of the US cities. So...not a 'swing and a miss'----simply a better use of data than what you want to focus on.
Edited by bamafaith, Jul 9 2018, 11:17 AM.
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Or not:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43628494
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Jul 9 2018, 11:17 AM
No Fair Kanye!

You're not letting people cherry-pick the one thing they want to talk about while disregarding actual statistics that show the whole picture!

How can they try to make London look bad if you don't let them look at only the one tiny slice that supports their version of reality? How dare people be expected to look at all sides of something??

So unfair and sad.
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Jul 9 2018, 11:01 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 09:44 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 08:39 AM
I'm fine with the balloon Trump. Imagine how much crime it can see from up there.
And yet, it would still see fewer murders (per capita) than it would in any of the 50 largest US cities.

Perhaps we should fly it here to help prevent crime??
Swing and a miss.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/04/03/londons-murder-rate-higher-than-new-york-citys/480860002/

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LONDON — When British police launched a murder investigation Tuesday into the shooting death of a 17-year-old girl it pushed the homicide rate in Britain's capital to a new, troubling milestone: London's murder rate surpassed New York City's for the first time.
Same article.

“Overall London has so far in 2018 seen fewer killings than New York City: 47 versus 54. Both cities have similarly sized populations of about 9 million.”


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It's possible the statistics are too close to call. I should not have cherry picked such an obscure source as USA Today.
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Jul 9 2018, 12:40 PM
It's possible the statistics are too close to call. I should not have cherry picked such an obscure source as USA Today.
It's not your source that is the problem, as you well know.

The problem is that you want to only look at data from the last couple of months (which has been covered in many different news sources---not just USA Today) and extrapolate that to a larger comment.

The "statistics" aren't too close to call. If you include data from more than two months (even so little as the entire year of 2018) you get a much better picture of what is happening.

You are trying to make a broad point using a tiny data point which is inaccurate.









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Well they liked Obama so maybe it is the people Republican’s keep on electing that are the problem and not the people who are protesting....
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msrock
Jul 9 2018, 07:21 AM
Keeping it classy! Too bad those 10,000 people don’t get to vote come election time.
I’m jealous they get to send the orange asshole home. He can’t ruin their country.
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Jul 10 2018, 01:19 PM
msrock
Jul 9 2018, 07:21 AM
Keeping it classy! Too bad those 10,000 people don’t get to vote come election time.
I’m jealous they get to send the orange asshole home. He can’t ruin their country.
I've already apologized to my Finnish friends on my FB page for when he gets to Helsinki.
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Jul 10 2018, 01:19 PM
msrock
Jul 9 2018, 07:21 AM
Keeping it classy! Too bad those 10,000 people don’t get to vote come election time.
I’m jealous they get to send the orange asshole home. He can’t ruin their country.
Sadly, he has the ability to seriously fuck with the Canadian economy. If you guys go down, we're along for the ride too.

In some ways who you elect is almost as important as who we elect.
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Jul 10 2018, 01:48 PM
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Jul 10 2018, 01:19 PM
msrock
Jul 9 2018, 07:21 AM
Keeping it classy! Too bad those 10,000 people don’t get to vote come election time.
I’m jealous they get to send the orange asshole home. He can’t ruin their country.
Sadly, he has the ability to seriously fuck with the Canadian economy. If you guys go down, we're along for the ride too.

In some ways who you elect is almost as important as who we elect.
Trade you !!!
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Jul 10 2018, 02:04 PM
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Jul 10 2018, 01:48 PM
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Jul 10 2018, 01:19 PM
msrock
Jul 9 2018, 07:21 AM
Keeping it classy! Too bad those 10,000 people don’t get to vote come election time.
I’m jealous they get to send the orange asshole home. He can’t ruin their country.
Sadly, he has the ability to seriously fuck with the Canadian economy. If you guys go down, we're along for the ride too.

In some ways who you elect is almost as important as who we elect.
Trade you !!!
I'll be honest, I don't want trump, but I sure as hell won't be voting for Justin again. He's nice and shiny on the world stage, but I'm not impressed with anything this administration has done, save for the weed thing.

He's a wishy washy, smile and make nice for the cameras, but do nothing leader. He's hung my province out to dry, and hasn't stepped up where he should have. I've been fortunate enough to meet him in person several times, and while I find him extremely likable as a person, I'm less than impressed with his leadership to date. Despite being a card carrying member of the liberal party, they won't get my vote with him as their leader.
Edited by shantroy, Yesterday, 2:16 PM.
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He does have a nice butt though!
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Jul 10 2018, 03:38 PM
He does have a nice butt though!
He's definitely pretty! And I'd much rather see my leader with his shirt off than yours!

If we had a Mr. World Leaders Pageant, I'd vote for Justin. :P
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My sister-in-law lives in Glasgow but will be in Bristol during Trump's visit. She commented on FB that she's going to start practicing her Glaswegian accent while he's in the country.

I'm sure her comment was meant to be sarcastic, however I wouldn't want to be associated with him in any way while he is visiting either. Even if the only association is that we share the same nationality.
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Well there’s a lot of people over there that are not happy and are really embarrassed about this. They are very disgusted with their mayor and they are speaking out. I do feel better... gives me hope that common decency does still exist.
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I wonder if they would loan that giant balloon to people in the USA? It's pretty damned hilarious.
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lol!
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Jul 10 2018, 04:38 PM
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Jul 10 2018, 03:38 PM
He does have a nice butt though!
He's definitely pretty! And I'd much rather see my leader with his shirt off than yours!

If we had a Mr. World Leaders Pageant, I'd vote for Justin. :P
I did not need that visual! :X :X :X
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Lol.
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Maybe some enterprising entrepreneur will make mini sized ones and market them in the USA. Can you imagine releasing them into the air at a Indivisible Rally?
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Jul 10 2018, 06:43 PM
Well there’s a lot of people over there that are not happy and are really embarrassed about this. They are very disgusted with their mayor and they are speaking out. I do feel better... gives me hope that common decency does still exist.
Why are you so insistent that protesting be stifled?

Flying a giant orange baby effigy of the US President sends a pretty clear message without being violent or racist.

Great Britain has been a close ally of ours for quite a while now, as have many other countries. I think it's important to note that our democracy defending partners are not happy with the turn our country has taken. This should not be dismissed as merely a distasteful stunt.
Edited by Potatochiplady, Yesterday, 7:53 PM.
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Trump fans love freedom as long it's only their own.
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Jul 10 2018, 07:50 PM
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Jul 10 2018, 06:43 PM
Well there’s a lot of people over there that are not happy and are really embarrassed about this. They are very disgusted with their mayor and they are speaking out. I do feel better... gives me hope that common decency does still exist.
Why are you so insistent that protesting be stifled?

Flying a giant orange baby effigy of the US President sends a pretty clear message without being violent or racist.

Great Britain has been a close ally of ours for quite a while now, as have many other countries. I think it's important to note that our democracy defending partners are not happy with the turn our country has taken. This should not be dismissed as merely a distasteful stunt.
I’m not telling you to quit protesting. By all means keep protesting.
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Just that a lot of other people don’t feel the same way as you do about it... and they are just as passionate. That is all I’m trying to say. Take that for what it’s worth. I’m not trying to fight with you or start an argument.
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Jul 10 2018, 07:25 PM
Maybe some enterprising entrepreneur will make mini sized ones and market them in the USA. Can you imagine releasing them into the air at a Indivisible Rally?
There is pinata store near me that has Trump baby pinatas.
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Jul 10 2018, 07:25 PM
Maybe some enterprising entrepreneur will make mini sized ones and market them in the USA. Can you imagine releasing them into the air at a Indivisible Rally?
There is pinata store near me that has Trump baby pinatas.
Shut up!!! Off to Google.
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Jul 10 2018, 08:28 PM
Just that a lot of other people don’t feel the same way as you do about it... and they are just as passionate. That is all I’m trying to say. Take that for what it’s worth. I’m not trying to fight with you or start an argument.
And that's fine. It just seems that every time you post regarding people protesting, it's done in such a way so as to suggest people are wrong for speaking out at all.
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Maybe some enterprising entrepreneur will make mini sized ones and market them in the USA. Can you imagine releasing them into the air at a Indivisible Rally?
There is pinata store near me that has Trump baby pinatas.
Shut up!!! Off to Google.
OMG

https://www.pinatas.com/collections/donald-trump-pinatas/products/donald-trump-poo-emoji-icon-pinata
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Jul 10 2018, 07:50 PM
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Jul 10 2018, 06:43 PM
Well there’s a lot of people over there that are not happy and are really embarrassed about this. They are very disgusted with their mayor and they are speaking out. I do feel better... gives me hope that common decency does still exist.
Why are you so insistent that protesting be stifled?

Flying a giant orange baby effigy of the US President sends a pretty clear message without being violent or racist.

Great Britain has been a close ally of ours for quite a while now, as have many other countries. I think it's important to note that our democracy defending partners are not happy with the turn our country has taken. This should not be dismissed as merely a distasteful stunt.
Protesting is only good when it is done by her side...anyone who protests against the Republicans (or especially Trump) is wrong and uncivil.


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Jul 10 2018, 07:25 PM
Maybe some enterprising entrepreneur will make mini sized ones and market them in the USA. Can you imagine releasing them into the air at a Indivisible Rally?
There is pinata store near me that has Trump baby pinatas.
Shut up!!! Off to Google.
OMG

https://www.pinatas.com/collections/donald-trump-pinatas/products/donald-trump-poo-emoji-icon-pinata
:wub:
It's the shitz!
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Not including the shoes thrown at Bush junior.....did you respond so adamentaly that such displays were wrong when these occurred to Obama’s.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319448/Obama-book-thrown-Philadelphia-rally.html

https://www.memri.org/tv/palestinians-bethlehem-vandalize-obama-poster-swastikas-and-throw-shoes-protest-his-visit

Shoes have also been thrown at Hillary....
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Jul 10 2018, 09:49 PM
Not including the shoes thrown at Bush junior.....did you respond so adamentaly that such displays were wrong when these occurred to Obama’s.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319448/Obama-book-thrown-Philadelphia-rally.html

https://www.memri.org/tv/palestinians-bethlehem-vandalize-obama-poster-swastikas-and-throw-shoes-protest-his-visit

Shoes have also been thrown at Hillary....
I don’t agree with throwing shoes or any item at anyone. I will speak out about it if I know about it. I don’t endorse or agree with that kind of behavior.
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I would love to see little Trump baby helium balloons at retail stores mixed in with the Happy Birthday ones.
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