Lying about lying

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Lying about lying; This is unsolvable
Topic Started: Nov 30 2006, 11:54 PM (662 Views)
KRK	Dec 10 2006, 12:05 AM Post #31
Poincaré Conjecture Posts: 563 Group: Student Member #14 Joined: December 2, 2006	But it is technically NOT a lie.



Edwardted	Dec 10 2006, 06:17 PM Post #32
Twin Prime Conjecture Posts: 1,171 Group: Student Member #17 Joined: December 5, 2006	Yea. but a Lie still isn ta direct contradiction either
	You cannot win without losing.


KRK	Dec 10 2006, 06:47 PM Post #33
Poincaré Conjecture Posts: 563 Group: Student Member #14 Joined: December 2, 2006	When claiming the truth, it is.



Edwardted	Dec 10 2006, 07:17 PM Post #34
Twin Prime Conjecture Posts: 1,171 Group: Student Member #17 Joined: December 5, 2006	No its never a direct contradiction
	You cannot win without losing.


KRK	Dec 10 2006, 09:33 PM Post #35
Poincaré Conjecture Posts: 563 Group: Student Member #14 Joined: December 2, 2006	Its like -1 x 1.



Edwardted	Dec 11 2006, 12:21 AM Post #36
Twin Prime Conjecture Posts: 1,171 Group: Student Member #17 Joined: December 5, 2006	no its like -1 x -1
	You cannot win without losing.


Michel	Dec 12 2006, 12:04 AM Post #37
Chipmunk Posts: 2,287 Group: Smarty Pants Member #9 Joined: November 30, 2006	Stephen Nov 30 2006, 08:24 PM Someone says they are lying, but they aren't. Are they lying, or telling the truth? ?:-( If you look at it another way, it's an obvious lie. Someone says, "they are lying, but they aren't," it's a contradiction in itself. Thus it cannot be true, thus the speaker is lying, because the subject of the quote cannot be both lying and telling truths at the same time, it is a physical impossibility. (I mean this as such: Some guy says, "they are lying, but they aren't" about a different chum of his, so he is lying because that person cannot be saying lies and truths at the same time, it's impossible. Try it yourself, say: 'I am stupid', and 'I am smart' at the same time. You can't.) Now I realize that this is not how y'all percieved it, I just felt like bringing up another argument. Of course it is undeterminable, because they are lying since they say they are, but aren't. But since they are, and they say they are, they aren't. Quite simple, really.
	You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist. -Indira Gandhi (1917 - 1984)


Michel	Dec 16 2006, 12:23 AM Post #38
Chipmunk Posts: 2,287 Group: Smarty Pants Member #9 Joined: November 30, 2006	appu_xavier Dec 15 2006, 02:59 PM So I don't repeat myself. OMGOSH OMGOSH OMGOSH OMGOSH Hardy har har, that was not funny.
	You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist. -Indira Gandhi (1917 - 1984)


Admin	Dec 16 2006, 03:12 AM Post #39
Administrator Posts: 381 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 13, 2006	Michel Dec 16 2006, 12:23 AM appu_xavier Dec 15 2006, 02:59 PM So I don't repeat myself. OMGOSH OMGOSH OMGOSH OMGOSH Hardy har har, that was not funny. Hardy harr harr, that wasn't completely invisible. Spam has been deleted. Several people have been warned.



Michel	Dec 16 2006, 02:13 PM Post #40
Chipmunk Posts: 2,287 Group: Smarty Pants Member #9 Joined: November 30, 2006	Admin Nov 30 2006, 08:28 PM "I am a liar!" If the person is lying, then that statement must be false. Thus, the must not be lying, a contradiction. If the person is telling the truth, they must be lying, which is a contradiction. It is solvable, however. The solution is that it is undecidable. Since it's already been solved, why is the topic still up?
	You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist. -Indira Gandhi (1917 - 1984)


appu_xavier	Dec 22 2006, 01:34 AM Post #41
Poincaré Conjecture Posts: 583 Group: Student Member #6 Joined: November 29, 2006	Cause it fells like it!



Michel	Dec 22 2006, 01:36 AM Post #42
Chipmunk Posts: 2,287 Group: Smarty Pants Member #9 Joined: November 30, 2006	No, Andre is a he. Because Andre feels like it. Because he feels like it.
	You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist. -Indira Gandhi (1917 - 1984)


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