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Topic Started: Feb 28 2012, 03:01 PM (1,719 Views)
Reaper Man
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I do not have a "hobby" of sorts as I am unable to enjoy things since my raising, yet this seems the right place to adress this. For me there is only my work, and with my work come my weapons. My rune weapon is a claidheamh mòr which The Master had claimed from a Scottish nobleman. During the centuries I have collected many weapons, and have learned to forge them myself. Unfortunately they have significantly lost use over the centuries, and everyone uses firearms now.

Do any of you have knowledge about projectileless weapons, either their use or their forging?
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he advertized it as the lightest weapon i could get with an adamantium edge. full adamantium swords weigh the same, and they're longer than the pitiful 50 inches of blade on this one
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Mar 9 2012, 07:12 PM
I will with gladness. his name's Dralon Unsir, and you're going to have to beat me to it. i just checked the thing, and it actually has runes of weight interspersed with the blessings on it. RUNES. OF. WEIGHT. i didn't even know you could be that much of a dick and stay in buisness. the only reason i figure i hadn't noticed how retarded it was is because i trained with some rather heavy weights to build up to them. i'm going to grab one of the bases' swords
Also, protip. Get a shorter sword. Like a straight up arming sword, and a smaller shield. Since you're not fighting in formation, you want more mobility.

Actually, fuck that. Get a gun.
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he advertized it as the lightest weapon i could get with an adamantium edge. full adamantium swords weigh the same, and they're longer than the pitiful 50 inches of blade on this one
>50 inches
>pitiful
You need only three inches to kill nearly all humanoids if you stab them. Size is never the entire defining factor if a weapon is good. This is going to sound so cliche, but size isn't all that matters. It's how you use it.
Edited by Frosty, Mar 9 2012, 09:05 PM.
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I actually carry a rapier, and it's what i use in tight quarters, but otherwise, my purpose is to crack tough nuts in combat. you'd be surprised how many people love affixing chitinous armor to their skin in this city, since UWM has a huge alteration school. and i do have a gun actually, i just don't use it all that often. at least not as much as my sword.


I meant pitiful for the weight of the sword. a 50 inch blade is absolutely monstrous, but it's very heavy considering it's "the lightest thing i can get" and a steel blade of the same length would be 5 pounds. i actually checked with the new base forgemaster, and i could probably get a 66 inch blade with the same makeup as the previous one weighing in at 6 pounds. thank god for mythril.
Edited by Order Alisair, Mar 9 2012, 09:33 PM.
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Regarding the whole weapons debate, my rune weapon is a 50" claymore. While giving me superior range most of the time, I can do a simple Halbschwert for accuracy.

Order Alisair
Mar 9 2012, 05:21 PM
Also, the tower sheild is on a triple buckle to keep it from sliding around on my arm. that fastening system really helps me with wielding it

You are using enarmes on a Roman scutum? I am sorry to inform you, but you are doing it wrong. Why limit yourself like that when you can use a single handle behind the boss? With a handle you can more than double the range of your shield arm, and you are far more maneuverable. You can also use your shield as a weapon that way.

Bloodrage
Mar 9 2012, 07:25 PM
Guys, none of you uses the best sword fighting style of all?

I already use the best style. The one that kills my enemies.
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Mar 10 2012, 03:07 AM
Bloodrage
Mar 9 2012, 07:25 PM
Guys, none of you uses the best sword fighting style of all?

I already use the best style. The one that kills my enemies.
Actually the best one is having a slave-thing that does it for you, meanwhile you can just cast flesh to mud
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I actually carry a rapier, and it's what i use in tight quarters, but otherwise, my purpose is to crack tough nuts in combat. you'd be surprised how many people love affixing chitinous armor to their skin in this city, since UWM has a huge alteration school. and i do have a gun actually, i just don't use it all that often. at least not as much as my sword.
>rapier
>tight quarters
>niggawhat.jpg


There are far better weapons for tight quarters than rapiers. For instance, combat knives or gladiuses(gladii?). And back when I was in the military, we didn't use CC weapons to crack tough nuts as you put it. We used more gun and/or warmage.
I'm really starting to wonder how high casualties your group has in their operations.
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I meant pitiful for the weight of the sword. a 50 inch blade is absolutely monstrous, but it's very heavy considering it's "the lightest thing i can get" and a steel blade of the same length would be 5 pounds. i actually checked with the new base forgemaster, and i could probably get a 66 inch blade with the same makeup as the previous one weighing in at 6 pounds. thank god for mythril.
You could use another type of sword altogether, rather than the Biglarge McLargehuge ones. Especially if used in conjuction with a shield.
Edited by Frosty, Mar 10 2012, 10:04 AM.
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Mar 10 2012, 10:04 AM
Alisair
 
I actually carry a rapier, and it's what i use in tight quarters, but otherwise, my purpose is to crack tough nuts in combat. you'd be surprised how many people love affixing chitinous armor to their skin in this city, since UWM has a huge alteration school. and i do have a gun actually, i just don't use it all that often. at least not as much as my sword.
>rapier
>tight quarters
>niggawhat.jpg


There are far better weapons for tight quarters than rapiers. For instance, combat knives or gladiuses(gladii?). And back when I was in the military, we didn't use CC weapons to crack tough nuts as you put it. We used more gun and/or warmage.
I'm really starting to wonder how high casualties your group has in their operations.
Alisair
 
I meant pitiful for the weight of the sword. a 50 inch blade is absolutely monstrous, but it's very heavy considering it's "the lightest thing i can get" and a steel blade of the same length would be 5 pounds. i actually checked with the new base forgemaster, and i could probably get a 66 inch blade with the same makeup as the previous one weighing in at 6 pounds. thank god for mythril.
You could use another type of sword altogether, rather than the Biglarge McLargehuge ones. Especially if used in conjuction with a shield.
>rapier
>tight quarters
you'd actually be exactly how much you can get away with when you know some styles of fencing, especially when your right pauldron serves as a face guard. and my gun does get used, i just don't like using it because it's a lot easier healing living people. but times do come when the option for mercy/redemption has gone out the window, and it's then that i usually put a 4 inch hole in someone.
and our unit has only had one casualty in the last four years, it's just from an unrelated incident

i very well could, it's just going to be weird as hell adjusting to the lack of reach. i'm actually considering switching to a pole arm after all this. and if i don't, how does arming sword and tower shield sound?

and i use enarmes because it's bigger than a scutum. also, it's quite a bit harder to get disarmed.
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you'd actually be exactly how much you can get away with when you know some styles of fencing, especially when your right pauldron serves as a face guard
It depends on how you define tight quarters, a rapier still needs a fair bit of area to be used. And I'm very aware of how dangerous rapiers can be, my main "nemesis" if you will at the club I train swords and what not uses rapiers and he's a 7 foot half-orc.
Alisair
 
and my gun does get used, i just don't like using it because it's a lot easier healing living people. but times do come when the option for mercy/redemption has gone out the window, and it's then that i usually put a 4 inch hole in someone.
Uh, gunshot wounds aren't instakill you know? Otherwise I'd be dead several times over.
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i very well could, it's just going to be weird as hell adjusting to the lack of reach. i'm actually considering switching to a pole arm after all this. and if i don't, how does arming sword and tower shield sound?
I'd drop the tower shield for a smaller shield unless you need to assist in riots or something. Weighs to much and is too clumsy. And polearm depends, as I mentioned earlier my favorite CC weapon of all time is a hóggspjót(aka norse hewing-spear) for the reasons I listed, but halberds are good. Tend to need a lot of space though.
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and my gun does get used, i just don't like using it because it's a lot easier healing living people. but times do come when the option for mercy/redemption has gone out the window, and it's then that i usually put a 4 inch hole in someone.
Uh, gunshot wounds aren't instakill you know? Otherwise I'd be dead several times over.
Correct, a bladed weapon deals more damage than a single bullet due to size.

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I'd drop the tower shield for a smaller shield unless you need to assist in riots or something. Weighs to much and is too clumsy.
I recall recent riots in Asia where one of the protesters was armed with a recoilless antipersonnel weapon, so you will want to use a special shield.
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Okay, going to try answering these in order

>guns aren't an instakill
Yes, i do realize this after being on the bad end of one too many hostile exchanges. unfortunately, police policy (you have to mostly follow police protocol to become a paladin stateside) means that if i'm shooting, i'm legally obligated to shoot to kill. shooting to wound is unfortunately counted under cruel and unusual punishment.

>Drop the tower shield
Unfortunately, non-tower shields don't really give me enough coverage. and i have been called in to assist in riot situations, or situations that call for full cover such as hijacked Crowd control vehicles and such. (god fire hoses hurt like a bitch)

and to answer Reaper man's question, yes, my shield is special. it's belssed, runic, and has a force enchantment to prevent piercing. it also has a few doodles on the inside from when I've left it by the base during a Tots'n'cops day. one kid actually gave it a minor relaxation enchantment somehow. simple enough circle, i just don't know how he knew it

otherwise, i may look into one of the Hextech sheilds my old adviser kept talking about. anybody have experience with those? (a one pound energy based tower shield sounds too good to be true)

>dropping the sword

Now that i have the new sword, it's so much lighter it hurts. but i've done some browsing, and may sheath draltze for a while to try out some new stuff. I've actually narrowed my experimentation in polearms down to either a Hoggspjot, Partisain, or Atma (weird dragonborn weapon that's like the freakish crossbreed between sword and polearm) and don't worry, i'm not going to need anymore room than with the BFS
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