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US Government Shutdown
Topic Started: Oct 1 2013, 04:54 PM (572 Views)
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so what the shut down means and this is a simple dumb ass version the government HAS to make a budget but the democrats don't want to drop obma care and the republicans don't want to rase the debt celling meaning there is no spending if its reached . All "unneed" FEDERAL employees are not being paid (obama still has 14 gardeners). if the 17th is reached than EVERY fedaral thing gets cut cuz the debat celling would be reached
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People also don't realize is that this has to do with an important concept in American government. That concept is known as Majority rule. The Affordable Care Act passed both houses of congress, and was deemed constitutional by the Supreme Court, which tends to lean conservative, and President Obama was re-elected only 11 months ago. Democrats hold The White House & a majority of the Senate.

This crisis has been completely manufactured by Republicans, namely John Boehner & teabaggers. Boehner said at the beginning of the year he would not negotiate with President Obama, and wanted to go to regular order. So when the budget passed, both houses are supposed to appoint negotiators and go to conference committee in order to iron out differences. However the House, controlled by Tea Party extremists who remained in power solely through gerrymandering congressional districts back in 2011, as shown by the popular vote totals for the overall House, which Democrats won by 3%, refused to appoint negotiators. Harry Reid in The Senate tried to appoint negotiators, but was blocked by the teabaggers in The Senate. As a registered Democrat, I can't tell you how great this incompetency is for the Democratic Party.

To put it in perspective, the last time this thing happened 17 years ago, it saved Bill Clinton's presidency, as he blamed Bob Dole, as Senate Majority Leader & GOP presidential nominee, and Newt Gingrich for causing that mess. He won by a landslide, only two years after he lost control of both houses.

End rant.
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Beian
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The Republicans are being ass hats.
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Beian
Oct 12 2013, 02:50 AM
TL;DR
The Republicans are being ass hats.
This thread is for discussion of the shutdown, not day-to-day US politics.
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i think its hilarious that some less essential employees are still paid during the shutdown. for example, theres a subway going between the senate and the house is still working because the politicians refuse to walk / drive / go there by any other means than their private subway. if they were afraid for their safety they could just walk down in the subway as there is an underground walking thingy.
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Thunorim
Oct 12 2013, 07:28 PM
i think its hilarious that some less essential employees are still paid during the shutdown. for example, theres a subway going between the senate and the house is still working because the politicians refuse to walk / drive / go there by any other means than their private subway. if they were afraid for their safety they could just walk down in the subway as there is an underground walking thingy.
oh and obama still has 14 gardeners still getting payed and the dog career is getting paid but they have to shut down national parks and they hired cops to give tickets at those closed parks

its not only the republicans fault however it is the 2 party systems fault the usa needs third parties
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Well, that's over. And hours before the planet imploded too. :(
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