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Pro-life?
Topic Started: Oct 29 2013, 09:22 PM (335 Views)
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Uruk-Hai
good, bad, ugly, debate for starters i am pro-life the baby is a living human being from the moment of conception.
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Azog Soulreaver
Dude, what do you smoke? :p
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No it's not. It's a bundle of cells no different from a malignant cancer or a wart - two things that people have no trouble getting rid of. To be honest, a baby can not even be considered aware and sentient until about 18 months, so eliminating it whilst still in the womb shouldn't be that much of a problem.
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9002
Oct 29 2013, 09:22 PM
the baby is a living human being from the moment of conception.
Just not sentient. Why should anyone care then?
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Uruk-Hai
it is still killing a human being its called murder that "lump of cells" IS a human and deserves to live! they have a full life ahead of them why should you get to end it short just because you feel like it if i want to go out and murder someone cuz i feel like it is that okay?
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Having a full life ahead of them is a poor argument to use. What does it matter to me that something could have a full life ahead of it? Many things could have a full life ahead of them, the fact that it's a human life makes no difference to me. There are in excess of 7'000'000'000 humans on this planet, do we need or want anymore?
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Uruk-Hai
so i can kill you cuz theres 7 billion other pople out there and you don't care at all if i do
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Aborting a foetus is 'killing' in the same way that you'd 'kill' a weed in the garden.

Yes, I would care if you killed me because I'm sentient and I know that I exist, I have Philosophy of Mind and I know that I am separate from my surroundings; now that I know that I exist, I don't want to stop existing because I don't want to not exist.
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9002, are you a man?
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Uruk-Hai
yes i am one of the few man whom care about pro life very adamantly and a fetus is still a baby and don't go on a its the womans choose rant cuz guess what is it my choose if i go to jail for murder
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You won't go to jail for murder purely on the charges of aborting a baby.
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Uruk-Hai
no but wheres the difference if a you kill a blind deaf lame man (who doesn't know where he is) than killing a deffencely babay?
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Oct 29 2013, 10:37 PM
yes i am one of the few man whom care about pro life very adamantly and a fetus is still a baby and don't go on a its the womans choose rant cuz guess what is it my choose if i go to jail for murder
But shouldn't it be the woman's choice? She's the one who has to carry the child and go through labor, so it shouldn't be your decision.
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Stop attacking a straw man and attack the real argument; a baby is not the same as a foetus and aborting a foetus is not the same as killing a baby.

In response to you, whilst an old man may be lame, he can still feel and experience; the foetus will feel nothing when it is aborted, a sentient life would not have been taken.
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Beian
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Babies are retards anyway, they can't even talk.
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There is nothing pro life about banning abortions even in cases where doing so endangers the life of both the mother and the unborn lump of cells.
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Taiping
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...oh wow...
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i dont like kids and i dont want any. this planet is all ready full of people we can't take care or even care to try. no point is fuzzing about avortion until existing people are being helped and it is ensured kids can have amazing lives (probably never)
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It isn't yet sentient so it doesn't really fucking matter. Also overpopulation is beginning to be a real problem so why bring an unwanted child into this world? Also pro-life shit is stunting stem-cell research which has the capacity to cure diseases that are already killing people who are actually alive.
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