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I was thinking...; And thinking...
Topic Started: Oct 11 2013, 04:24 AM (408 Views)
Canuckland

Maybe we shouldn't do the whole 'First Contact' scenarios. Since there was a massive Civil War throughout the Galaxy, you'd think that everyone would know everyone. Otherwise, how would there be a war in the first place?

Plus, it just gets the whole thing going faster.
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The_River

Canuckland
Oct 12 2013, 05:00 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 11 2013, 09:38 AM
First Contact threads, in my opinion, are a milestone and gateway. It signifies the first time (after ceasing isolationism, after arriving in the galaxy, since reaching FT tech, etc) that your nation contacts another one. It can almost be presumed that any first contact threads after that are historically far less significant for your nation, not to mention your nation is likely now much more aware of other nations through whatever knowledge is gained during the first First Contact. Additionally, a First contact thread serves as a nice introductory thread for your nation if done well. I believe it is a good thing for a nation to have a thread dedicated to their very First Contact and all subsequent first-contact scenarios are better suited to being integrated as they occur into other threads.
But the thing is, it seems unnecessary since there was a galaxy wide war. It would seem as if everyone would know each other because of the war.
But the question is, would we?
The galaxy is very large. Im sure that we would know the nations ib our immediate vicinity, but further away? During war time, nobody has the cash to go and explore, so it makes sense that certain nations would never have heard of each other.
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Nungiir Ancestry

Canuckland
Oct 12 2013, 05:00 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 11 2013, 09:38 AM
First Contact threads, in my opinion, are a milestone and gateway. It signifies the first time (after ceasing isolationism, after arriving in the galaxy, since reaching FT tech, etc) that your nation contacts another one. It can almost be presumed that any first contact threads after that are historically far less significant for your nation, not to mention your nation is likely now much more aware of other nations through whatever knowledge is gained during the first First Contact. Additionally, a First contact thread serves as a nice introductory thread for your nation if done well. I believe it is a good thing for a nation to have a thread dedicated to their very First Contact and all subsequent first-contact scenarios are better suited to being integrated as they occur into other threads.
But the thing is, it seems unnecessary since there was a galaxy wide war. It would seem as if everyone would know each other because of the war.
I don't think there is necessarily a galaxy-wide war in this version of NEAR and the idea of a huge galactic war is silly to me anyways; the Idiran-Culture war in the Culture series is one of the most epic wars I know of in sci-fi and it covered 0.02% of the galaxy in volume, and 0.01% in terms of population affected. Almost a trillion people and nearly a hundred million ships perished in that war.
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Canuckland

Nungiir Ancestry
Oct 12 2013, 06:12 PM
Canuckland
Oct 12 2013, 05:00 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 11 2013, 09:38 AM
First Contact threads, in my opinion, are a milestone and gateway. It signifies the first time (after ceasing isolationism, after arriving in the galaxy, since reaching FT tech, etc) that your nation contacts another one. It can almost be presumed that any first contact threads after that are historically far less significant for your nation, not to mention your nation is likely now much more aware of other nations through whatever knowledge is gained during the first First Contact. Additionally, a First contact thread serves as a nice introductory thread for your nation if done well. I believe it is a good thing for a nation to have a thread dedicated to their very First Contact and all subsequent first-contact scenarios are better suited to being integrated as they occur into other threads.
But the thing is, it seems unnecessary since there was a galaxy wide war. It would seem as if everyone would know each other because of the war.
I don't think there is necessarily a galaxy-wide war in this version of NEAR and the idea of a huge galactic war is silly to me anyways; the Idiran-Culture war in the Culture series is one of the most epic wars I know of in sci-fi and it covered 0.02% of the galaxy in volume, and 0.01% in terms of population affected. Almost a trillion people and nearly a hundred million ships perished in that war.
Wait, there isn't? I mean, that is what we built around in the first NEAR.
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The 44th Independent Legion
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Nungiir Ancestry
Oct 12 2013, 06:12 PM
Canuckland
Oct 12 2013, 05:00 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 11 2013, 09:38 AM
First Contact threads, in my opinion, are a milestone and gateway. It signifies the first time (after ceasing isolationism, after arriving in the galaxy, since reaching FT tech, etc) that your nation contacts another one. It can almost be presumed that any first contact threads after that are historically far less significant for your nation, not to mention your nation is likely now much more aware of other nations through whatever knowledge is gained during the first First Contact. Additionally, a First contact thread serves as a nice introductory thread for your nation if done well. I believe it is a good thing for a nation to have a thread dedicated to their very First Contact and all subsequent first-contact scenarios are better suited to being integrated as they occur into other threads.
But the thing is, it seems unnecessary since there was a galaxy wide war. It would seem as if everyone would know each other because of the war.
I don't think there is necessarily a galaxy-wide war in this version of NEAR and the idea of a huge galactic war is silly to me anyways; the Idiran-Culture war in the Culture series is one of the most epic wars I know of in sci-fi and it covered 0.02% of the galaxy in volume, and 0.01% in terms of population affected. Almost a trillion people and nearly a hundred million ships perished in that war.
Even if the other party is already (sortof) known, the first post-war contact would still be significant enough to warrant a thread, in my opinion.

AFAIK the galaxy-wide war is canon set by hobbs.
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Nungiir Ancestry

The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 13 2013, 11:43 AM
Nungiir Ancestry
Oct 12 2013, 06:12 PM
Canuckland
Oct 12 2013, 05:00 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 11 2013, 09:38 AM
First Contact threads, in my opinion, are a milestone and gateway. It signifies the first time (after ceasing isolationism, after arriving in the galaxy, since reaching FT tech, etc) that your nation contacts another one. It can almost be presumed that any first contact threads after that are historically far less significant for your nation, not to mention your nation is likely now much more aware of other nations through whatever knowledge is gained during the first First Contact. Additionally, a First contact thread serves as a nice introductory thread for your nation if done well. I believe it is a good thing for a nation to have a thread dedicated to their very First Contact and all subsequent first-contact scenarios are better suited to being integrated as they occur into other threads.
But the thing is, it seems unnecessary since there was a galaxy wide war. It would seem as if everyone would know each other because of the war.
I don't think there is necessarily a galaxy-wide war in this version of NEAR and the idea of a huge galactic war is silly to me anyways; the Idiran-Culture war in the Culture series is one of the most epic wars I know of in sci-fi and it covered 0.02% of the galaxy in volume, and 0.01% in terms of population affected. Almost a trillion people and nearly a hundred million ships perished in that war.
Even if the other party is already (sortof) known, the first post-war contact would still be significant enough to warrant a thread, in my opinion.

AFAIK the galaxy-wide war is canon set by hobbs.
That was in the old NEAR - I believe Hobb stated that this new version would be subject to changes and suggestions - and my suggestion would be to avoid the whole galactic war angle.
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Canuckland

Nungiir Ancestry
Oct 13 2013, 04:24 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 13 2013, 11:43 AM
Nungiir Ancestry
Oct 12 2013, 06:12 PM
Canuckland
Oct 12 2013, 05:00 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 11 2013, 09:38 AM
First Contact threads, in my opinion, are a milestone and gateway. It signifies the first time (after ceasing isolationism, after arriving in the galaxy, since reaching FT tech, etc) that your nation contacts another one. It can almost be presumed that any first contact threads after that are historically far less significant for your nation, not to mention your nation is likely now much more aware of other nations through whatever knowledge is gained during the first First Contact. Additionally, a First contact thread serves as a nice introductory thread for your nation if done well. I believe it is a good thing for a nation to have a thread dedicated to their very First Contact and all subsequent first-contact scenarios are better suited to being integrated as they occur into other threads.
But the thing is, it seems unnecessary since there was a galaxy wide war. It would seem as if everyone would know each other because of the war.
I don't think there is necessarily a galaxy-wide war in this version of NEAR and the idea of a huge galactic war is silly to me anyways; the Idiran-Culture war in the Culture series is one of the most epic wars I know of in sci-fi and it covered 0.02% of the galaxy in volume, and 0.01% in terms of population affected. Almost a trillion people and nearly a hundred million ships perished in that war.
Even if the other party is already (sortof) known, the first post-war contact would still be significant enough to warrant a thread, in my opinion.

AFAIK the galaxy-wide war is canon set by hobbs.
That was in the old NEAR - I believe Hobb stated that this new version would be subject to changes and suggestions - and my suggestion would be to avoid the whole galactic war angle.
That was kinda the epitome of NEAR, is that everyone was in shambles, and everyone had to restart their journey's to a super power race.
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Terraburg
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Canuckland
Oct 14 2013, 05:11 AM
Nungiir Ancestry
Oct 13 2013, 04:24 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 13 2013, 11:43 AM
Nungiir Ancestry
Oct 12 2013, 06:12 PM
Canuckland
Oct 12 2013, 05:00 PM
The 44th Independent Legion
Oct 11 2013, 09:38 AM
First Contact threads, in my opinion, are a milestone and gateway. It signifies the first time (after ceasing isolationism, after arriving in the galaxy, since reaching FT tech, etc) that your nation contacts another one. It can almost be presumed that any first contact threads after that are historically far less significant for your nation, not to mention your nation is likely now much more aware of other nations through whatever knowledge is gained during the first First Contact. Additionally, a First contact thread serves as a nice introductory thread for your nation if done well. I believe it is a good thing for a nation to have a thread dedicated to their very First Contact and all subsequent first-contact scenarios are better suited to being integrated as they occur into other threads.
But the thing is, it seems unnecessary since there was a galaxy wide war. It would seem as if everyone would know each other because of the war.
I don't think there is necessarily a galaxy-wide war in this version of NEAR and the idea of a huge galactic war is silly to me anyways; the Idiran-Culture war in the Culture series is one of the most epic wars I know of in sci-fi and it covered 0.02% of the galaxy in volume, and 0.01% in terms of population affected. Almost a trillion people and nearly a hundred million ships perished in that war.
Even if the other party is already (sortof) known, the first post-war contact would still be significant enough to warrant a thread, in my opinion.

AFAIK the galaxy-wide war is canon set by hobbs.
That was in the old NEAR - I believe Hobb stated that this new version would be subject to changes and suggestions - and my suggestion would be to avoid the whole galactic war angle.
That was kinda the epitome of NEAR, is that everyone was in shambles, and everyone had to restart their journey's to a super power race.
1. Quote Pyramids...

2. I agree that a galaxy wide war is ridiculous, the sheer size of such an empire would cause it to collapse.
"We move yet are still, deaf yet listen, dead yet alive." - C
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Hobbeebia
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Well in old NEAR that would have been a logical arguement, but as of now we dont have a backstory and thus First Contact situations maybe a key to getting into the galaxywide stage.
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Canuckland

Hobbeebia
Oct 14 2013, 08:27 AM
Well in old NEAR that would have been a logical arguement, but as of now we dont have a backstory and thus First Contact situations maybe a key to getting into the galaxywide stage.
I have another problem with First Contact RPs. Imagine how long it will take to get acquainted with everyone ICly. I mean, First Contacts are just a real hassle in terms of getting involved.
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Nungiir Ancestry

Canuckland
Oct 15 2013, 03:06 AM
Hobbeebia
Oct 14 2013, 08:27 AM
Well in old NEAR that would have been a logical arguement, but as of now we dont have a backstory and thus First Contact situations maybe a key to getting into the galaxywide stage.
I have another problem with First Contact RPs. Imagine how long it will take to get acquainted with everyone ICly. I mean, First Contacts are just a real hassle in terms of getting involved.
First contacts don't have to necessarily be between everybody - the older civilizations may be generally aware of almost everyone but the sudden newcomer and if somebody were to contact a diplomatic and influential civ then they might automatically get to meet a few others.
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