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| The Draft - June 4th. Who Will Mets Select? | |
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| Lucky | Jun 5 2018, 01:02 PM Post #61 |
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Tol. I don't care if he's able to throw with his middle hand if he had one or saw pitches with a third eye. Unless he's an unusual power source such as Jim 'the toy cannon' Wynn(At 197 he would appear to be shaped like a bowling ball that might offset his short stature perhaps generating surprising power), multi talented Jose Altuve or speedy Albie Pearson, Cortes is at a distinct disadvantage considering his measurables. If I were to venture a guess we already have a similarly undersized slow poke in Michael Paez playing 2B at the lower levels. Correct me if I'm off base speaking for both of us. We need a culture of SPEED introduced into this Organization. Evidently neither of these young men bring us any. Edited by Lucky, Jun 5 2018, 01:30 PM.
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| Lucky | Jun 5 2018, 01:22 PM Post #62 |
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Round 4: RHP Adam Hill 6'6" 180. At least our pick at 110 yielded the 139th rated prospect not one from another universe. There are mixed reviews here. His heater sits at 91-93 and can touch 95. After being shelled in his first outing this past season against Va Military Hill flirted with a couple of No No's K'ing 14 each time. Now get this! He hasn't been effective since and suffered from shoulder tendonitis. Nevertheless he uses his size and extension to speed up his heater in the eyes of the opposition. It reportedly has late life and some run. Evidently the Mets brass must have spotted this kid when scouting Carlos Cortes. They were teammates at U of South Carolina. |
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| Lucky | Jun 5 2018, 02:06 PM Post #63 |
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Round 5: 5'10" RHP (Strictly a bullpen prospect)Ryley Gilliam out of Clemson. Yet another shorty but with a powerful arm. Rated 127, on face this can be a bargain at round 5. Is this a modern day Dick Selma? Despite his diminutive measurables maybe he'll surprise. I just can't get my arms around drafting bullpen lacky's. The reason they are there is due to insufficient makeup to be starters. Not a fan of this pick.
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| Tolerance | Jun 5 2018, 04:33 PM Post #64 |
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Now I understand why Mets drafted him out of high school in 2016 - Impressive tools. According to Perfect Game, ranked #1 catcher among prep players in the 2016 draft, 27th overall, and #2 overall prep prospect in Florida. https://www.perfectgame.org/players/PlayerProfile_Videos.aspx?ID=352546 Even now has plus raw power but has to clean up his swing. Reportedly doesn't run well and has fringy arms. I've seen video of his swing in the cage and in games. It looks rhythmic in the cage but then too much movement during games but hit 15 homers this season. I think Mets should stop drafting the slow footed power types and stick to all around athletes as much as possible with every position player especially early picks. Unless Mets plan to make him pro catcher, seems to me Cortes profiles as super utility player though reports state he mainly played left field this year but Mets drafted him as 2nd baseman. Does he develops into lefty hitting version of Phillip Evans with plus power? But it's remarkable watching video of him fielding and throwing in 2014. Infield outfield, right, and left handed. https://www.perfectgame.org/players/PlayerProfile_Videos.aspx?ID=352546 https://www.perfectgame.org/players/PlayerProfile_Videos.aspx?ID=352546 Am also interested in Mets comments about their selections. Edited by Tolerance, Jun 5 2018, 05:01 PM.
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| Tolerance | Jun 5 2018, 04:51 PM Post #65 |
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There's very high praise for Mets #9 pick, MLB Pipeline's #138. Big, hard throwing right hander with exceptionally heavy sink whose had TJ and Ulnar Nerve Transposition surgery but is a beast and scouts think can move quickly through the system. Bryce Montes de Oca, 22, 6'7", 250, 70/80 Fastball, throws 100. Previously drafted by the Nats and Sox. Also has plus slider. Some control issues. MLB Pipeline projects as reliever and potential closer. |
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| Lucky | Jun 5 2018, 10:06 PM Post #66 |
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If he develops into a Phil Evans with plus power what do we have? Perhaps a #7 hitter at AAA Syracuse? Tol. What do you find so special in Phil Evans? He has shown me little to nothing at the ML level. While I have no expectations from a kid I've never seen Cortes numbers and reports don't speak loudly. Using Phil Evans as the model doesn't give me much hope for Carlos' future as a major leaguer. Regarding his ambidextrous ability, being a natural LH thrower do you actually think his unnatural side could yield a strong enough arm behind the plate? Another factor to consider is his natural side being on the weak side due to not enough usage. Lee Mazzilli also threw with both arms but even after dropping the left side could never gain any strength from his natural right side. I hate to rain on your parade but when reading about this kid the first fella who comes to mind is non prospect Michael Paez who is languishing at Port St Lucie. Hopefully I am proven wrong but this pick along with the other 8 of 10 hardly excite me. Kelenic may have the tools but for me that is it thus far. I'm hoping for better news tomorrow. Hopefully I can put a smile on your face with the progress of speedy CF'R Kevin Kaczmarski. He's hit wherever he's been rather well. Perhaps we'll see him later in the season. Jeff McNeil finally healthy has thickened abit physically and may have a future. Again though both of these kids add yet two more hitters from the port side. The only switch hitter in the entire system is Jhoan Urena. Please correct me if I am wrong. There are plenty of maybes and ifs throughout the system so for the record lets add Urena to the mix. He did impress me when with the Cyclones. Edited by Lucky, Jun 5 2018, 10:38 PM.
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| Tolerance | Jun 6 2018, 02:30 AM Post #67 |
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You're not raining on my parade. i share your frustration. With the exception of Cortes's switch throwing, I'm not expressing much excitement for him and almost any player the Mets have thus far picked with exception of Kelenic and Montes de Oca both of whom could become impact players. But overall, I'm still looking at scouting reports and just starting to track down some video. I suspect Mets drafted the 160th ranked Woods-Richardson in second round loving the upside in this 17 y.o. and willing to dangle far higher $$$ than he expected to dissuade from college ball with Texas. Adam Hill's built like Degrom and some elements of his mechanics remind me of him. Gilliam has a weird quirk of grabbing his cap after every pitch not put into play. There's video below of several newly drafted Mets including the two above. https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/mets-select-ss-manny-rodriguez-in-mlb-draft/279885852 I totally agree and have been saying for some time - for years - Mets ought to put emphasis on two-way, multi-tooled athletic position players including those with speed. Instead, the Mets under Alderson remain fixated on slo-mo's with projected power and so-so defense. Very frustrating. We need new front office ASAP after this season, but need Alderson replacement yesterday. I saw Urena in person at Brooklyn in 2014, as I did Rosario and Oswalt that game. I thought Urena had upside, would develop into significant prospect which he's thus yet to do. His bat's OK but his defense seems to be weak link, Mets just don't know where he best fits. In terms of the farm, McNeil, Alonso, Gimenez, Peterson and Dunn are playing well. 4 of these 5 are our top prospects. And Dominic Smith is still so young turning 23 in 9 days and has started 5 games in outfield spliting time in the corners. Once signed, Kelenic will almost certainly be a third Mets farm hand nationally ranked as Top 100 prospect. Gimenez is quickly progressing. At this pace, I wouldn't rule out a late 2019 call up, if not 2020. So that's Gimenez, Alonso, O'Neil in the near future, perhaps the latter 2 sometime this season. That may also include Kevin Kaczmarski from whom I'm not expecting much but depth option if Mets are in need and perhaps 4 or 5th outfield candidate down the road. Edited by Tolerance, Jun 6 2018, 02:35 AM.
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| Tolerance | Jun 6 2018, 04:02 PM Post #68 |
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So I'm reading that the Mets are getting high marks by scouts for who they drafted yesterday. Good pitching, excellent defensive catcher, and good potential in Cortes at the plate. Jim Callis of MLB Pipeline says Mets had the best Day 2 of anyone. https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/mlb-draft-expert-impressed-by-mets-day-2-selections/280056854 |
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| TuffleShuffle | Jun 15 2018, 01:46 PM Post #69 |
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@jimcallisMLB 1st-rder Jarred Kelenic signs w/@Mets for $4.5 million (pick 6 value = $5,525,200). Wisconsin HS OF, best HS hitter in entire @MLBDraft, also generated my favorite 2018 Draft comp: "Mark Kotsay w/more athleticism." Loved Kotsay when I covered college baseball for @BaseballAmerica |
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| Tolerance | Jun 15 2018, 06:26 PM Post #70 |
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With the level of talent this kid has as reported by national experts, like John Sickels and Keith Law, I don't think published Kotsay comparison does him justice, not when the view of Kotsay to many fans is his supar, injury-impacted career rather than the talent when drafted. Sickels and Law rave about Kelenic's talent/skill as advanced and one of the best in the draft. https://www.minorleagueball.com/2018/4/24/17273094/2018-mlb-draft-jarred-kelenic-of-waukesha-wisconsin Keith Law ''Kelenic is the one prep position player who has separated himself from the pack over the past 10 months," Law wrote, "showing a broad mix of tools and several plus, including power, speed and arm strength.'' https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/mets-sign-first-round-pick-jarred-kelenic-choose-his-minor-league-assignment/281365172 Seems to me Kelenic might be the most talented, all around selection in the Mets Sandy Alderson era. His mental make up is also highly praised. I'm blown away by a comment he made that he's driven to play on the biggest stage and wants to be the best player ever. This kid may not become Willie Mays, but he's driven to play like him. If anything he may be a better version of Nimmo (Mets thinks Kelenic is similar but somewhat better skilled/tooled at similar age). He has similar advanced plate approach, better defender, with similar hustle approach, love of the game, hunger to improve. I think lighter on his feet than Nimmo in 2011. Nimmo at 25, with just 405 career AB's has 15 homers, 29 2B, 6 3B, is on pace for 20-something homers in 2018, 500+ SLG, capable of 15-20 steals .265, BA and his typical high OBP. If Kelenic exceeds this, plays better defense, is aggressive base stealer, K's far less, that would be impressive. We'll have to wait 3-5 years to get idea of what we have as he climbs the minors. Edited by Tolerance, Jun 15 2018, 06:28 PM.
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