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It’s time for Sandy Alderson to go
Topic Started: May 30 2018, 11:35 AM (154 Views)
cyberchild

Our GM has done nothing to fix the biggest issue from last year, our Bullpen.. I know Anthony Swarzak is injured, I was never a big fan of Swarzak.. He was a cheap pick and not a top tier reliever that was out on the market last off season. It’s time to get rid of Sandy.. I would love to get rid of Wilpon but unfortunately we are stuck with the Wilpons
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hodges69

He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
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hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
Man I'd want no part of shaking Freddy's and Saul's hands. PEEEEUW!!!! :nolist:
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hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
Signed an extension this offseason, though length was not disclosed.

He'll be here until he's ready to retire, which is probably sooner than later.

John Ricco is probably next man up when that happens though.
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Lucky

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May 30 2018, 12:49 PM
hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
Signed an extension this offseason, though length was not disclosed.

He'll be here until he's ready to retire, which is probably sooner than later.

John Ricco is probably next man up when that happens though.
I always thought Riccardi was the baseball guy not Ricco who is more connected toward the business end. Whatever the case Alderson did not fortify the bullpen sufficiently.

Our starters have never shown an ability to eat innings and too much was expected of Wheeler and Matz. All the more reason to strengthen the Pen considering the paper thin rotation. I'm not the least bit surprised with what we have seen on the mound thus far. As far as I am concerned its always been more hype than substance.

Even on a good day from the offense no damn lead is safe.
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Lucky
May 30 2018, 02:02 PM
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May 30 2018, 12:49 PM
hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
Signed an extension this offseason, though length was not disclosed.

He'll be here until he's ready to retire, which is probably sooner than later.

John Ricco is probably next man up when that happens though.
I always thought Riccardi was the baseball guy not Ricco who is more connected toward the business end. Whatever the case Alderson did not fortify the bullpen sufficiently.

Our starters have never shown an ability to eat innings and too much was expected of Wheeler and Matz. All the more reason to strengthen the Pen considering the paper thin rotation. I'm not the least bit surprised with what we have seen on the mound thus far. As far as I am concerned its always been more hype than substance.

Even on a good day from the offense no damn lead is safe.
Only mentioning Ricco because of this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/sandy-alderson-endorses-mets-assistant-gm-john-ricco-article-1.3830167
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Lucky

TuffleShuffle
May 30 2018, 02:03 PM
Lucky
May 30 2018, 02:02 PM
TuffleShuffle
May 30 2018, 12:49 PM
hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
Signed an extension this offseason, though length was not disclosed.

He'll be here until he's ready to retire, which is probably sooner than later.

John Ricco is probably next man up when that happens though.
I always thought Riccardi was the baseball guy not Ricco who is more connected toward the business end. Whatever the case Alderson did not fortify the bullpen sufficiently.

Our starters have never shown an ability to eat innings and too much was expected of Wheeler and Matz. All the more reason to strengthen the Pen considering the paper thin rotation. I'm not the least bit surprised with what we have seen on the mound thus far. As far as I am concerned its always been more hype than substance.

Even on a good day from the offense no damn lead is safe.
Only mentioning Ricco because of this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/sandy-alderson-endorses-mets-assistant-gm-john-ricco-article-1.3830167
The Daily News online now limits viewing per month without a paid subscription. Since I don't plan to subscribe I cannot view your link.
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Lucky
May 30 2018, 02:50 PM
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May 30 2018, 02:03 PM
Lucky
May 30 2018, 02:02 PM
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May 30 2018, 12:49 PM
hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
Signed an extension this offseason, though length was not disclosed.

He'll be here until he's ready to retire, which is probably sooner than later.

John Ricco is probably next man up when that happens though.
I always thought Riccardi was the baseball guy not Ricco who is more connected toward the business end. Whatever the case Alderson did not fortify the bullpen sufficiently.

Our starters have never shown an ability to eat innings and too much was expected of Wheeler and Matz. All the more reason to strengthen the Pen considering the paper thin rotation. I'm not the least bit surprised with what we have seen on the mound thus far. As far as I am concerned its always been more hype than substance.

Even on a good day from the offense no damn lead is safe.
Only mentioning Ricco because of this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/sandy-alderson-endorses-mets-assistant-gm-john-ricco-article-1.3830167
The Daily News online now limits viewing per month without a paid subscription. Since I don't plan to subscribe I cannot view your link.
I'm not a fan of when people do this as it just makes pages too long, especially w/ replies - but just for you.

Do me a favor though and don't quote reply to this, start a new one! :)

PORT ST. LUCIE — Sandy Alderson may not know when he plans to step down, but the Mets GM has hinted at who he thinks should step into the role once he does. In an interview with Baseball Night in New York that was recorded over the weekend and aired Monday night, Alderson endorsed assistant GM John Ricco.

"Not at the moment. I recognize the season is winding down," Alderson said of his contemplating the end of his career. "There are a lot of great people here, John Ricco and so forth, who deserve an opportunity as well."

Alderson went on to tell co-host of BNNY Andy Martino that Ricco will be a good GM someday.
"I think absolutely John will. He's very, I hate to use the word analytical, but very organized, he understands the field side as well as the office side," Alderson said. "There is a tremendous respect among those working with the Mets and throughout baseball. I think John at some point will do a great job."

Last year, the Daily News reported that Ricco, who was quietly given a promotion last winter as the top assistant to Alderson, was being groomed to step in when Alderson stepped aside. While the Mets won't say he is the heir apparent, Ricco has some strong allies in the organization who want to see him in that role.

It would be the expected move, as Ricco has also been the face of the front office in Alderson's absence.

He was the Mets' pointman for the 2015 offseason — trying to sign Ben Zobrist and then quickly pivoting to trading for Neil Walker and signing Asdrubal Cabrera — as Alderson battled cancer.

He has stepped in to speak to the media at the Winter Meetings and GM Meetings several times in the past.

He is not unfamiliar to Mets fans, as he and Alderson split most of the Mets road trips to have at least one front-office spokesperson available to the media while the team is traveling. He keeps on top of the health reports and rehab of injured players for the front office and specializes in contracts and the collective bargaining agreement for the Mets.

The New Jersey native has been an assistant to three GMs in the Mets organization: Jim Duquette, Omar Minaya and Alderson. Before coming to the Mets, Ricco worked in the Commissioner's office. He worked in the league's waiver wire and then in player relations, which taught him the intricacies of contracts, arbitration and the collective bargaining agreement.

In 2004, Ricco brought all that experience to the Mets.

Alderson, 70, was given a two-year contract before this season, but at the same time Mets ownership signaled that it was not thrilled with every aspect of his tenure. Fred Wilpon insisted on the return of Minaya, the former GM, to help rebuild the farm system.

Alderson, who is said to be free of the cancer he battled in 2015-16, said that after turning 70 last year, he has begun to think about retirement.

"It's something I think about from time to time," Alderson said. "I will say this though throughout my career, (I've) never really focused on the next thing. I've always said to myself and I tell people, focus on the job you have now. It's the most important job you will ever have. If you do it well people will notice, it will lead to opportunities you never could imagine.

"I have never been all that much self directed, but when you turn 70, you do start to think about those things. I enjoy what I am doing and as long as I have the opportunity and as long as I am capable, I enjoy it."
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Lucky

Thanks for the content but there was no need to link it here Tuf. Please accept my apology for posting under quote and unnecessarily lengthening an already long winded series of posts. Making no mention of Riccardi it does appear John Ricco is next in line for the GM job. While his forte in the past was back office administration and finance,hopefully he knows the Game also.
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Lucky
May 30 2018, 03:45 PM
Thanks for the content but there was no need to link it here Tuf. Please accept my apology for posting under quote and unnecessarily lengthening an already long winded series of posts. Making no mention of Riccardi it does appear John Ricco is next in line for the GM job. While his forte in the past was back office administration and finance,hopefully he knows the Game also.
No need to apologize at all, good sir, happy to share. I wasn't referring to your previous replies, was just trying to avoid this thread becoming multiple pages just due to quoting the article moving forward.

Though that may be Sandy's pick, who knows who ownership would gravitate towards. I do believe though the replacement would come from an in-house candidate as there are some solid options to take over whenever Sandy walks away.

I do believe that Sandy will eventually step down as GM but take over in a advisor or even a "VP of Baseball" kind of role overseeing the show, with someone else calling the day to day. Some already believe this to be the case without the titles being public.
Edited by TuffleShuffle, May 30 2018, 04:43 PM.
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hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
This is likely Sandy's last season. He's floated retirement, and there's always a point with the Wilpons in which they change GM's after X-number of years when the team stagnates and there's nothing more/new the current GM can provide.

I would be very surprised if he's the GM for 2019.
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cyberchild
May 30 2018, 11:35 AM
Our GM has done nothing to fix the biggest issue from last year, our Bullpen.. I know Anthony Swarzak is injured, I was never a big fan of Swarzak.. He was a cheap pick and not a top tier reliever that was out on the market last off season. It’s time to get rid of Sandy.. I would love to get rid of Wilpon but unfortunately we are stuck with the Wilpons
Swarzak had very good 2017 after solidifying adjustments in fastball and slider velocity and usage. 2.33 era, K Rate almost 10.59 per 9 with low BB rate. I'm a bit perturbed you're getting on his case when he's barely pitched for us having sustained significant injury.

I thought Swarzak was good signing. Give him a chance. We really need his veteran presence.

I agree however about Sandy - time to go.
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Tolerance
May 30 2018, 05:29 PM
hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
This is likely Sandy's last season. He's floated retirement, and there's always a point with the Wilpons in which they change GM's after X-number of years when the team stagnates and there's nothing more/new the current GM can provide.

I would be very surprised if he's the GM for 2019.
After reading the article I shared, I saw his extension was 2 years (which I didn't know prior).

Not sure it's so certain he's hanging it up. I think a lot will be determined based on the season's end results.
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May 30 2018, 05:46 PM
Tolerance
May 30 2018, 05:29 PM
hodges69
May 30 2018, 11:42 AM
He isn’t going anywhere..he’s done everything the Wilsons directed him to do....he’s the perfect hand puppet....especially since the owners have thier hands jammed up his ass to insure he will follow instructions perfectly...
This is likely Sandy's last season. He's floated retirement, and there's always a point with the Wilpons in which they change GM's after X-number of years when the team stagnates and there's nothing more/new the current GM can provide.

I would be very surprised if he's the GM for 2019.
After reading the article I shared, I saw his extension was 2 years (which I didn't know prior).

Not sure it's so certain he's hanging it up. I think a lot will be determined based on the season's end results.
I recall all the reports stipulating the extension but not knowing how many years. If the Daily News is the lone original source for two, I'm skeptical.

Even if it's two years, doesn't mean he'll stay. In the absence of a 2015 redux, I would be rather surprised if he does. He just hasn't gotten the job done for what is supposed to be sustained success and deep farm.

Ricco has been loyal soldier and deserves opportunity, but I also think we really need a voice from the outside with fresh perspective who is risk taker.
Edited by Tolerance, May 30 2018, 07:32 PM.
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militaryfan

As long as these fools own this team, will there ever be a reason to have hope?

They could bring in Theo Epstein and find a way to screw it up.
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