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| Jai | May 22 2015, 10:50 PM Post #1 |
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Jai Pharaoh | King of the Nile
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![]() Permanent Representative of the Turkish Republic to the North Atlantic Council Esteemed allies and international partners, I take great pleasure in returning to this body and briefing you on Turkey's on going efforts to rectify the tragically, ill-advised steps previously taken by the Republic against Daesh in Northern Syria. As for the record; the Republic of Turkey, and her formal representatives, shall refer to the cult plaguing our region as Daesh, denying them the distinction of 'Islamic' in any sense or principle. Friends, the Turkish Republic's fully withdrawal of military assets from Northern Syria has been completed, as promised to each member-state of the NATO community. This national, and international, embarrassment has been a significant disservice to the security of Turkey as well as NATO's on going operations against Daesh in Syria. On behalf of the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces, and the Turkish people whom have paid a great deal for these mistakes, to the people of all other NATO member-nations; please accept our deepest apologies. Turkey has fully evacuated our military assets from Northern Syria, and has moved to re-secure our border with that country. The General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces has ruled out further offensive incursions into Northern Syria; Turkey shall not practice intervention again, unless our sovereignty is directly threatened by Daesh. When Turkish security interests are threatened by Daesh forces, Turkey will react swiftly and decisively to neutralize that threat. In concert with the decision of our military leadership to refocus on defending the Turkish homeland, the Turkish military has moved to secure the southern boarder and establish a defensive corridor separating Turkish sovereignty and territory susceptible to infiltration by enemy forces. Also of relevance to these defensive measures taken, Turkey has begun to stem civilian traffic through the corridor in order to prevent the smuggling of weapons and fighters across our borders. Civilians, and refugees in particular, are welcome to enter this corridor in seeking asylum. Turkish policy is to find asylum-seekers, bring them into state custody and provide them will protection and asylum when it has been determined that those seeking asylum are genuine, holding no ill motivation. These are the steps Turkey has taken, thus far, in the interest of persevering homeland security and the integrity of our republic's border. In conclusion, Turkey has begun to implement a defensive strategy opposing Daesh and prioritizing homeland security in the face of new, potentially direct, threats to the republic. Turkey has rectified it's policies in respect to Daesh and Northern Syria; and Turkey is prepared to proceed, once more, as a contributing member of the international community and a vital NATO partner. I yield the floor to whomever wishes to claim it. |
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| Jai | May 26 2015, 12:18 PM Post #11 |
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Permanent Representative of the Turkish Republic to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization Turkey thanks the Canada for this commitment. Let it also be known to this this assembly of Turkey's closets security partners; our eternal opposition to Daesh, and all cults which shame the Muslim faith, notwithstanding; it has become abundantly apparent to military and humanitarian leaders in Ankara that the continuation of the al-Assad regime in Damascus has clearly exacerbated this crisis and thus is directly detrimental to Turkish security. Ankara full believe that NATO, and the international community, has allowed this regime to stay in power for far to long. As a result of these conclusions, Ankara is openly reviewing military options able to end the regime's ability to wage war on the Syria people. What say NATO? |
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| KnightConcorde | May 26 2015, 02:06 PM Post #12 |
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Elissa Golberg Permanent Representative for Canada to NATO | Représentant permanent du Canada auprès de l'OTAN While the Government of Canada agrees that the al-Assad government in Syria needs to be removed from power, Canada does not believe that NATO should remove him militarily. The fact is that there are no major factions that NATO could support that could replace al-Assad's government in Syria. Without a viable replacement for al-Assad, his removal from power would more than likely turn Syria into another Somalia, which would further degrade the security situation in Syria, only making Turkeys problems worse. Sadly, Canada has no viable suggestions at this point on how to resolve the Syrian civil war, as the attempt at an internationally monitored democratic election in Syria has stalled, and the lack of any single, power secular or moderate Islamic force in Syria means there is no viable military alternative to al-Assad's government. |
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| Jai | May 26 2015, 05:53 PM Post #13 |
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Permanent Representative of the Turkish Republic to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization Turkey appreciates the views of Canada, and agrees that al-Assad should not be removed without a plan for Syria's future. NATO can not repeat the mistakes of Iraq. However, Turkey strongly feels that NATO can take away the regimes capably to prosecute genocide against the Syrian people. Ankara is actively considering strikes on Syrian government airbases and military targets, and recommends this action. |
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| Sadar | May 27 2015, 01:28 AM Post #14 |
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France Frances would like to consider an alternative approach. We recommend Turkey not to directly strike against Syrian government held airbases. That could be consider a direct act of war. More importantly, Syria accounts for russian troops and aircrafts that any Turkish attack might actually fight. Direct fight with Russia is not what we should seek. There are two parties to fight here: Government and IS. IS - Intensify airstrikes and operations on IS bases near the Turkish border and near FSA-controlled areas. Direct fight in this case. FSA - Actively support the Free Syrian Army with weapon supplies and financing. They will be the ones directly fighting Al-Assad. That being said, France will onyl support an FSA that is democratic-friendly, and will seek assurance of such princples from their leaders. We believe they will abide by democracy if ruling shall happen, and as such we would like to encourage NATO to more actively support the FSA with mili supplies and indirect financing. |
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| KnightConcorde | May 27 2015, 03:25 PM Post #15 |
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Elissa Golberg Permanent Representative for Canada to NATO | Représentant permanent du Canada auprès de l'OTAN We agree with France's arguments, and with their proposal. However, we would like to suggest two things. For one, Canada believes that instead of supplying and financing FSA forces on the ground, NATO should instead invest in training and equipping professional FSA troops that could reinforce existing forces. One of the reasons for this is the fact that the Free Syrian Army is not actually and army; its more of an alliance of independent brigades that more-or-less report to a decentralized command structure. As well, FSA forces are heavily under-equipped and under-trained, which originates from the fact that the FSA is primarily a militia organization, not a professional army. Our suggestion would be to train and equip new FSA brigades under a centralized command structure in a neighboring country(s) such as Turkey or Jordan. These brigades could possibly draw recruits from refugee camps worldwide, as the offer of a stable salary and the possibility of defending their homes could draw recruits to the brigades. The brigades would have to be funded by NATO nations and trained by NATO military trainers in all aspects of modern warfare. As well, the brigades would have to be kept secular, and would have to respect the values of democracy and freedom. While we recognize that this suggestion will probably be controversial amongst our allies, we still believe it would be a better alternative to simply increasing support for the FSA forces already in Syria, as the current support has had little-to-no effect on the situation on the ground. Finally, Canada would like to suggest that instead of targeting pro-government air bases with airstrikes, that NATO nations instead establish no-fly zones over the territory not controlled by al-Assad's government or his allies. The aircraft over these zones would then be charged with shooting down any Syrian government aircraft that violate the no-fly zones. This would be particularly useful, as no only would it reduce the effectiveness of the Syrian governments greatest tool against non-government forces, but it would also protect civilians throughout rebel held areas, especially since civilians have become the main victims of this conflict, and more civilians than combatants have been killed in the Syrian civil war. |
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| Jai | May 27 2015, 08:04 PM Post #16 |
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Jai Pharaoh | King of the Nile
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Permanent Representative of the Turkish Republic to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization In light of the arguments made by France and Canada, which are legitimate; Turkey supports the establishment of a NATO no-fly-zones over Syria and would be willing to host NATO aircraft at Turkish airbases, and participating in such an operation. Also, Turkey is ready to contribute military advisers and weapons to FSA forces in Northern Syria. Ankara is, admittedly, pensive about the prospect of training fighters in Turkish territory. |
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