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Situation with Venezuela and Guyana; Discussion
Topic Started: Jul 20 2015, 01:04 AM (525 Views)
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Frans Timmermans
Permanent Representative for the Netherlands to the United Nations

The Netherlands, among many in the United Nations today, is very concerned about the situation between Venezuela and Guyana. While the Netherlands is not currently on the Security Council, it wishes to convey its' highest concern to the general assembly that the bickering and nonsense between these two countries must stop. The Netherlands has seen much recent aggression from South American countries, and would like to call on the general assembly for their opinions on the situation.
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Balampalampam
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Yashar Aliyev
Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary from Azerbaijan to the UN

This is a matter for Venezuela and Guyana to work out together. There have been no hostilities and the scope of the United Nations is not the prevention of "bickering and nonsense". I suggest we focus on other areas that are more pressing instead of trivialities.
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Itō Hirobumi
Harald Braun
Permanent Representative to the UN

We totally agree with the dutch in that the international community should address this pressing matter with a diffusion. However, we see the responsibility of this conflict lying solely on the shoulders of the venezuelan government, which has proven itself belligerent to an unpopular level, involving itself in conflicts half way around the world and in Brazil in an opportunistic and doomed, unprovoked invasion. We call upon the United Nations to sanction both sides if the conflict deteriorates further, but to word its resolution in such a way as to resist the growing tide of erratic Venezuelan behavior.
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Yashar Aliyev
Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary from Azerbaijan to the UN

The precedence for the United Nations getting involved is not a good one based on the reasoning by the Dutch. If we were to bring up to the United Nations every disagreement between nations then many of us would be the subject of dissenting resolutions. Azerbaijan and Armenia have a long running dispute and are in fact in a defacto state of war similar to that of North and South Korea but we are at this moment working behind the scenes to resolve our differences. Azerbaijan will be opposed to any resolution that seeks to penalize either side at this time, when conflict has begun that is when we must act not pre-emptively and not anticipating the worst.
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Uche Joy Ogwu
Permanent Representative of the Federal Republic of Nigeria to the United Nations


Nigeria is neutral on this matter since it is so far from our sphere of influence however we feel that the points raised are valid points and that it is best to encourage both sides to resolve their matters just as we have done in the past with our neighbors. Diplomacy is always better than a firm military hand when it comes to national disputes, when Venezuela or Guyana raises the issue here in the United Nations that is when it should be discussed.
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Antonio Patriota
Permanent Representative of Brazil to the United Nations

This is a major issue for Brazil as both nations involved in this conflict are neighbours to Brazil. Brazil has gone before the UNASUR (Union of South American Nations) and called for Venezuela's removal from the Union for their actions. We cannot allow Venezuela to run a muck of South America's economic, political and international stability any longer. Brazil completely stands behind Guyana in the face of Venezuelan aggression and bully tactics.

With all of this in mind we call upon the UNSC to enact a arms embargo against Venezuela in order to cripple the Venezuelan military and make it impossible for them to start any long term military campaign. Venezuela has done nothing more then destabilize the region over the past 6 months and it looks as if they have no plans on changing their behaviour anytime soon unless the international community starts to pay real attention to this issue immediately.
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Uche Joy Ogwu
Permanent Representative of the Federal Republic of Nigeria to the United Nations


We understand the concern that Brazil has but we cannot see any need for an arms embargo so long as Venezuela has done nothing to warrant it, we do remind Brazil that your country invaded a neighbor as well not so long ago and the Uruguayan people did not demand an arms embargo on Brazil. Right now the best course is simply to allow Venezuela to pursue its present course of diplomacy, we have seen no military attack against Guyana or any attempts to forcibly coerce Guyana. On the contrary we have seen Venezuela engage in diplomacy through the international court of justice and we believe that their present track is the right track and we ask for nations to be calm rather than rush to judgment based upon fleeting emotion.
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The Government of Canada supports the position of both our Dutch and German counterparts on the matter. While Canada does not believe a UN arms embargo on Venezuela is prudent at this point in time, we do support the German representatives proposal that if the situation deteriorates further, that should be an option.

Also, in light of the situation between Venezuela and Guyana, the Government of Canada will be bringing it up to the United Nations Security Council shortly.
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Antonio Patriota
Permanent Representative of Brazil to the United Nations
Yes Brazil did engage in a conflict with Uruaguy not long ago and but since then their has been a whole new government elected and the President has issued a formal apology. Venezuela though only looks to start conflict whenever possible, and raise tensions in South America.
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Vitaly Churkin
Permanent Representative to the United Nations
Russian Federation

Russia does not condone unwarranted invasions of other nations and stresses the need for diplomacy when possible.

However Russia does not see the current Venezuelan/Guyana spat to have occured in a vacuum. We can firmly and squarely place the blame on Brasil for setting the precident of recent invasions in South America with their invasion of Guayana, which has never been fully resolved. That incident saw the Eu place sanctions on Brasil, then Brasil caving to EU economic pressure despite Brasils largest trading partners at the time being the African Union. We didn't see an arms embargo on Brasil. The UNSC barely had a chance to speak about it before Brasils policy on that war flip flopped just as fast as their economic policy has shifted away from South South trade and moved to EU trade.

The Venezuelan invasion of Brasil was ill advised, however Brasil's conduct towards Venezuela in the peace talks left much to be desired and played a large roll in setting the tone for Venezuela. Brasils efforts at diplomatically, militarily, and economically isolating Venezuela are noted. It doesn't help that this recent spat between Venezuela and Guayana is playing right into Brasil's hands there.

Russia will not support an arms embargo on Venezuela at this time. They have broken no international law, they have in fact done far less than what nations like the United States, United Kingdom, and even Brasil, have recently done with their own rhetorics against certain nations. If our criteria for passing arms embargos solely based on words and rhetoric than most nations would be under an arms embargo. We must draw the line and stop that absurd line of thought.

Russia desires peace in the region, but we view the instability in South America to be directly caused by Brasil. Until Brasil returns to a sense of normalcy their actions will continue to set the tone for acceptable behavior in the region. How can Brasil condemn Venezuela when the Brasilian invasion of Uruguay not one year ago has gone completely unpunished? How can the UK and US work with Brasil on this matter when Brasil got away with invading Uruguay with very little consequences? Far less consequences than what is being proposed against Venezuela for simply stating rhetoric and opinion without actions yet.

We cannot perform knee jerk reactions like this, we must think things through and come up with a solution that can work for all parties. Finding solutions that only work for one party and then forcing the other party to accept via economic warfare, witholding investment funds, or through direct military action that typically results in regime change is simply unacceptable in this situation.
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