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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 13 2014, 09:55 PM (93 Views) | |
| Omar | Feb 13 2014, 09:55 PM Post #1 |
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I'm joining a knockout tournament in a week and I was hoping to get a few pointers on my army list. at 1500 points this is what i have HQ OLord, CCB (Gauss) , MSS, Phase Shifter, Warscythe Lord, Orb Troops 10 Warriors, Ghost Ark 20 Warriors (Lord goes here) 10 Immortals, Gauss Blasters Elite Stalker Fast Attack 10 Scarabs 3 Tomb Blades, Particle Beamers, Nebuloscopes, Shadowloom Heavy Support 1 Spyder, Fabrication Claw, TL Particle Beamer Any help would be much appreciated. i have more warriors, scarabs and tomb blades and im building a second Ark at the moment. |
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| Unholyllama | Feb 13 2014, 11:15 PM Post #2 |
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What is a "Knockout Tournament"? List-related though.... 1. Are you able to use your CCB as an AB? Some have magnetized it, others have just left the destructor loose. If so, I'd field is as an Annihilation Barge instead. (+10pt difference) 2. I'd drop the Spyder (-85pt difference) 3. Personally, I would rather have 2 units of 10 warriors than 1 unit of 20. It produces an extra scoring unit, an extra threat in general, and allows you to shoot at another target. (0pt difference) 4. I would drop the Resurrection Orb from the Lord. Grab a MSS and Gauntlet of Fire instead. (0pt difference) 5. Add more Tomb Blades to a full unit of 5, replace Shadowlooms with Shield Vanes and drop the Nebuloscopes. (+65pts difference) 6. Add the Particle Shredder on the Stalker (+5pts difference) 7. Add Septernal Weave to the Overlord (or Lord if you can't do #1). (+15pts difference). If my math is correct, that should be even. What do these changes give you? 1. More scoring threats 2. More fire power by way of an AB, Tomb Blades, and Stalker 3. More resilience through multiple units of warriors, larger unit of blades, and a weave I'm not a fan of tomb blades; however, given the options, this is a good idea here. I recommended the 3+ save vs Stealth because with stealth, you're still only have a 4+ save and there is A LOT of AP4 shots out there. having a 3+ will be better in the long run and you still have a 5+ jink. Lastly, increasing it to a full unit of 5 will allow you to lose 1 without being forced to take a leadership test immediately. 1 Spyder isn't that good and adding just 1 scarab per turn won't be THAT worthwhile. The Fabrication Claw is great on paper; however, if the unit can penetrate AV13, more than likely they have a 50% chance of rolling an explosion on the damage table after adjusting for open top and the weapon's AP value. Lastly - added a pie plate to the stalker is just fun and helps with accuracy on the targeting relay ability in my opinion. Then there's also those lucky instances where the large blast covers 2 units (TL'ing both) :-D. |
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| Omar | Feb 13 2014, 11:43 PM Post #3 |
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a knockout tourney is where you fight until you loose so every battle someone is out of the running (draw goes best 2 of 3) thanks for the help. I can use the barge as an AB. How do i play the OLord and Lord? do i stick them with their own warrior blobs? or together to go after something else? or individually? I have never run them that way before.. Thanks! |
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| Unholyllama | Feb 14 2014, 12:01 AM Post #4 |
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It depends. Having them in separate units allows the Lord and Overlord to accept challenges when charged as well as tank shooting attacks using the 2+ or 3+ saves. If you are going up against a lot of AP4 shooting, this may be a good option to help support your 2 warrior squads. Having them in a single unit allows you to be a bit more aggressive with that unit. Keep them in front again to tank shots (there's always look out sir) but move forward and if you get charged, have the Lord accept/issue the challenge. This will leave your Overlord free to use his Warscythe and cut through the other unit and make up any wounds that are dealt. This would be a good option for advancing towards an opponent's objective(s) in an attempt to clear them while the rest of your warriors advances and is supported by the Ark. |
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