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Several army lists.
Topic Started: Apr 8 2014, 07:10 AM (119 Views)
Banshee
Lychguard
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I'm trying to make some kind of universal lists (against any army), based on what i have at the moment. I don't have much experience - played only against Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels (gonna face Eldar soon - but i guess that will be only 3 races i will play against for long period of time).
My army consists of:
Zahndrekh
Obyron
Trazyn (not complete yet)
Anrakyr
3 x Overlords
Destroyer lord
Lord
5 x Crypteks
44 x Warriors (24 not complete yet)
10 x Immortals (Tesla)
10 x Immortals (Gauss)
C'tan
10 x Deathmarks
5 x Lychguard (shields, not complete yet)
Stalker (Heat ray, not complete yet)
11 x Scarabs
6 x Tomb blades (particle beamers)
6 x Wraiths (3 x coils, 3 x vanilla)
5 x Destroyers
3 x Heavy destroyers
2 x Night scythes
2 x Annihilation barges
Doom scythe
Doomsday Ark
3 x Spyders (not complete yet)
So i'm planning on making Spyder deathstar, but right now i don have them. So there will be 4 builds below 1500 and 1850 with spyders and without. I need some advice on viability of those lists and maybe some tweaks on them.

1500 (No Spyders).
I wanted to put 10 scarabs here, but they do not feet.

5 x Immortals (Gauss, Zahndrekh)
5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)
5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)

8 x Scarabs
6 x Wraiths (3 x coils, DLord(SW,MSS))
5 x Destroyers (reserve)

2 x AB (Gauss)


1500 (Spyders)
I'm getting 1585 here, just can't decide what to tweak - need help. Maybe deathstar at 1500 is bad idea...

5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)
5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)

7 x Scarabs
6 x Wraiths (3 x coils, DLord(SW,MSS))

2 x AB (Gauss)
3 x Spyders (3 x Particle beamers, Zahndrekh, Obyron)


1850 (No Spyders).
I just seem not being able to drop Solar pulse that easily. I still think it can give your ABs nice cover save at the first turn, if there's no night fight, and enemy starts the game.

10 x Immortals (Gauss, Destrotek (Solar pulse), Zahndrekh)
5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)
5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)

10 x Scarabs
6 x Wraiths (3 x coils, DLord(SW,MSS))
5 x Destroyers (reserve)

2 x AB (Gauss)
Doom scythe (reserve)


1850 (Spyders).
List is pretty low on scoring units, but i'm trying to mitigate it by starting from reserve, and hoping to destroy opponents scoring units.

5 x Warriors (reserve)
5 x Warriors (reserve)

5 x Deathmarks (NS, Despairtek, reserve)
5 x Deathmarks (NS, Despairtek, reserve)

8 x Scarabs
6 x Wraiths (3 x coils, DLord(SW,MSS))

2 x AB (Gauss)
3 x Spyders (3 x Particle beamers, Zahndrekh, Obyron)

Well, that is wall of text, but i will appreciate any feedback very much.
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Banshee
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Any comments? Any weak points or tweaking?
Edited by Banshee, Apr 9 2014, 04:23 AM.
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Mechanicus_Adept
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:wraith: is always a good unit to include in an army.
Edited by Mechanicus_Adept, Apr 19 2014, 03:17 PM.
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Mechanicus_Adept
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Banshee
Apr 8 2014, 07:10 AM
1500 (Spyders)
I'm getting 1585 here, just can't decide what to tweak - need help. Maybe deathstar at 1500 is bad idea...

5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)
5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)

7 x Scarabs
6 x Wraiths (3 x coils, DLord(SW,MSS))

2 x AB (Gauss)
3 x Spyders (3 x Particle beamers, Zahndrekh, Obyron)


drop 2x particle beamers to make up more points.

Your list looks illegal with 3 HQ???
DLord,
Zahndrekh??
Obyron??

I do not see the benefit of Zahndrekh with such low troop count.

Obyron is always good in CC to protect those Spyders, though i doubt 3 MC needs protecting.
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M0Dark
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Deathmark
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Zahndrek & Obyron only take up 1 slot if you have both.
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Unholyllama
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Lord
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Mechanicus_Adept
Apr 19 2014, 03:22 PM
Banshee
Apr 8 2014, 07:10 AM
1500 (Spyders)
I'm getting 1585 here, just can't decide what to tweak - need help. Maybe deathstar at 1500 is bad idea...

5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)
5 x Warriors (NS, reserve)

7 x Scarabs
6 x Wraiths (3 x coils, DLord(SW,MSS))

2 x AB (Gauss)
3 x Spyders (3 x Particle beamers, Zahndrekh, Obyron)


drop 2x particle beamers to make up more points.

Your list looks illegal with 3 HQ???
DLord,
Zahndrekh??
Obyron??

I do not see the benefit of Zahndrekh with such low troop count.

Obyron is always good in CC to protect those Spyders, though i doubt 3 MC needs protecting.
Obyron can be taken as an "upgrade" of sorts for Zahndrekh and not take up a FOC slot - allowing you to get 3 HQs.

As for Zahndrekh and low model counts. His ability to remove key abilities from units is huge (like stealth provided by night fighting or hit and run from a deathstar list). Likewise, you should never underestimate the power of giving a scarab swarm Furious Charge. Spyders are slow but a unit of 3 of them can be devastating (saw mine catch a riptide and slaughter him earlier this week) - giving them stealth or counter-attack is very helpful. Also for Vehicles, Stealth adds to jink giving the AB's & Scythes a 4+ save (3+ if you flat out for some reason).

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