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| Tweet Topic Started: May 11 2014, 01:08 PM (592 Views) | |
| Asteroph | May 11 2014, 01:08 PM Post #1 |
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Greetings All, I am a completely new player but have a decent understanding of the rules, I have just got into 40k after playing Fantasy for about 12 years and have picked a few things up from a player who is leaving the hobby (something about a newborn baby....) the below is what I think that I will expand to as I have 2x Battleforce, 2x Wraith Boxes and 2x Barge Boxes all NIB. Total Roster Cost: 1499 HQ: Overlord - 180 pts Staff of Light, Sempiternal Weave, Resurrection Orb, Phase Shifter : Royal Court - 60 pts Harbinger of the Storm, Lightning Field Harbinger of the Storm HQ: Destroyer Lord - 160 pts Warsythe, Sempiternal Weave, Mindshackle Scarabs Troops: 9 Warriors - 232 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 9 Warriors - 232 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 20 Warriors - 260 pts Fast Attack: 5 Canoptek Wraiths - 195 pts Whip Coil x2 Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts |
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| Secundum | May 11 2014, 07:21 PM Post #2 |
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I'd drop the Staff of Light for a Warscythe myself, and drop the Phase Shifter. With a 2+ armour save, not much will go through it anyway, and Phase Shifters are very pricey. Otherwise, it doesn't look bad at all. Anything with lots of Ap4 stuff will be a problem though. Other Necron armies with lots of Immortals, Space Wolves spamming Heavy Bolters, and ESPECIALLY Tau. |
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| Asteroph | May 11 2014, 11:25 PM Post #3 |
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I went with the Staff because I plan on keeping him out of combat, I could drop the phase shifter for another wraith? I imagine I'll come across plenty of tau but not sure what I can drop to fit in some more 3+ saves without splurging cash on more immortals |
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| Secundum | May 12 2014, 12:07 PM Post #4 |
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If he's in range to use the Staff he'll likely be in combat soon anyway, and it's just so useful. Remember it gets 2D6 AP vs vehicles too. And if you want to keep him out of combat why have a Phase Shifter? I'd follow your own advice and grab another wraith. |
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| Olfgund | May 12 2014, 06:51 PM Post #5 |
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A list with multiple ghost arks and big warrior blob always has big potential since the blob can then soak in damage that will return through RP and ark repair ; and the warriors inside have a fairly good protection, thanks to AV13. I’ll second that motion to use the point of the phase shifter elsewhere, especially if the overlord goes with the large warrior group (look-out-sir) or in a ghost ark (AV13 than look-out-sir). Just a though: if you specifically want that combination of gear on your overlord, you can get exactly that with nemesor Zanhdrekh for a mere 5 point more, and you gain much more in terms of tactical advantages… It becomes fairly easy to give a 4+ cover saves to a unit by using terrain and having Zanhdrekh give them stealth ; this might be a solution to those AP4 shots |
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| Asteroph | May 13 2014, 11:32 AM Post #6 |
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Thats a nice idea for Zahndrekh as the Warlord, so how does this look? HQ: Nemesor Zahndrekh - 185 pts : Royal Court - 60 pts Harbinger of the Storm, Lightning Field Harbinger of the Storm Troops: 9 Warriors - 232 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 9 Warriors - 232 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 20 Warriors - 260 pts Fast Attack: 5 Canoptek Scarabs - 75 pts Fast Attack: 5 Canoptek Scarabs - 75 pts Fast Attack: 5 Canoptek Wraiths - 195 pts Whip Coil x2 Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts |
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| deth110 | May 13 2014, 02:18 PM Post #7 |
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Looks good. Just curious, why Stormteks? If your trying to stay out of combat, why not take a Harbinger of Transmogrification? You could tie up jump infantry and bikes with one and shoot terminators and landraiders with the other. Edited by deth110, May 13 2014, 02:21 PM.
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| Magister Jaigo | May 13 2014, 09:27 PM Post #8 |
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Haywire is such a nice punch. And remember.... if you plan to keep something out of combat... you opponent will be sure to get in cc and kick your ass |
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| Asteroph | May 14 2014, 10:39 AM Post #9 |
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Cheers for the feedback guys, I took the Storm-teks for the Haywire Staff as I do see a lot of Vehicles on the gaming tables in the local GW so the Haywire would be required I think. With the keeping out of combat comment I was speaking of the Overlord I was thinking that the Phase Shifter would be a good addition to stop the character being sniped (although I my have my WHFB head on) ok so have done a small reshuffle, Lightning Field Storm-tek joins the large warrior squad with Zandrekh and the unupgraded storm-teks joins the smaller mounted warriors Total Roster Cost: 1494 HQ: Nemesor Zahndrekh - 185 pts : Royal Court - 85 pts Harbinger of the Storm Harbinger of the Storm Harbinger of the Storm, Lightning Field Troops: 9 Warriors - 232 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 9 Warriors - 232 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 20 Warriors - 260 pts Fast Attack: 6 Canoptek Scarab Bases - 90 pts Fast Attack: 6 Canoptek Wraiths - 230 pts Whip Coil x2 Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts |
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| Magister Jaigo | May 14 2014, 11:19 AM Post #10 |
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a use to consider is having the scarabs infront of the warriors precenting being charges and able to make a counter move. Nice list overall Edited by Magister Jaigo, May 14 2014, 11:19 AM.
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| Olfgund | May 14 2014, 01:19 PM Post #11 |
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Great list Last notes: I've read that you plan on joining Zanhdrekh to a "mounted" warrior unit with storm tek,( as in a ghost ark?) ; the GA has a capacity of 10, so 9 warriors + stormtek does not leave room for the Nemesor. Anyway, since he has an orb, you want him in larger blob ( that 20 warrior unit) where the orb will be more efficient Within 12" of the ghost ark in rapid fire range for the ark's and passenger' gauss flayers & voltaic staff... A vehicle could lose 5-6 hull points ; but it has to be within 12" |
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| Asteroph | May 14 2014, 01:43 PM Post #12 |
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Thanks all. For clarification the squads will line up like this 20 Warriors with Nemesor Zandrekh and Harbringer of the Storm w/Lightning 2x 9 Warriors with Harbringer of the Storm in Ghost Ark Scarabs will provide swarming cover to the group as it advances and the Wraithes will intercept any major threats with the A-Barges protecting the flanks |
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| deth110 | May 14 2014, 03:18 PM Post #13 |
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sounds good. |
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| Asteroph | May 16 2014, 03:21 PM Post #14 |
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Ok another bit of reworking, I just really like Trazyn's background and rules Total Roster Cost: 1500 HQ: Trazyn the Infinite - 175 pts : Royal Court - 165 pts Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness Lord, Warscythe, Mindshackle Scarabs, Sempiternal Weave, Resurrection Orb Elite: 5 Lychguards - 225 pts Hyperphase Sword & Dispersion Shield Troops: 10 Warriors - 245 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 10 Warriors - 245 pts Ghost Ark Fast Attack: 4 Canoptek Wraiths - 160 pts Whip Coil x2 Fast Attack: 7 Canoptek Scarabs - 105 pts Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts |
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| Olfgund | May 16 2014, 08:17 PM Post #15 |
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good list and mainly a fun list with fast chargers and teleporting chargers, you will be in your opponent's face quite rapidly, something not expected of necrons, which is always good wraiths can help dealing with MCs and barges will be good all-around |
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| Secundum | May 17 2014, 10:56 AM Post #16 |
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You have 2 members of a Royal Court. You can only attach one member to a squad per court, and your Warriors have Arks. As it is you'll have one member by himself. |
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| Asteroph | May 17 2014, 08:23 PM Post #17 |
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I must have overlooked that, ok I'll have a shuffle Edit Reshuffle Total Roster Cost: 1500 HQ: Trazyn the Infinite - 175 pts : Royal Court - 165 pts Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness Lord, Warscythe, Mindshackle Scarabs, Sempiternal Weave, Resurrection Orb Elite: 5 Lychguards - 225 pts Hyperphase Sword & Dispersion Shield Troops: 5 Immortals - 85 pts Tesla Carbines Troops: 10 Warriors - 245 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 10 Warriors - 245 pts Ghost Ark Fast Attack: 5 Canoptek Wraiths - 195 pts Whip Coil x2 Fast Attack: 5 Canoptek Scarab Bases - 75 pts Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts Edited by Asteroph, May 17 2014, 09:51 PM.
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| Asteroph | May 20 2014, 08:42 PM Post #18 |
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Another tweak (sorry can't help myself) Total Roster Cost: 1500 HQ: Trazyn the Infinite - 255 pts Catacomb Command Barge : Royal Court - 60 pts Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness Elite: 5 Deathmarks - 95 pts Elite: 5 Lychguards - 225 pts Hyperphase Sword & Dispersion Shield Troops: 10 Warriors - 245 pts Ghost Ark Troops: 10 Warriors - 245 pts Ghost Ark Fast Attack: 5 Canoptek Wraiths - 195 pts Whip Coil x2 Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts Twin Linked Tesla Destructor, Gauss Cannon Heavy Support: Annihilation Barge - 90 pts Twin Linked Tesla Destructor, Gauss Cannon |
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| M0Dark | May 23 2014, 02:16 PM Post #19 |
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Last one is better, the previous list you had far too many points on a single wound model in the Lord in my opinion. |
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| Olfgund | May 23 2014, 02:48 PM Post #20 |
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How you use the harbinger of despair becomes a serious choice as you have two unit that really benefit from it. Deathmarks for the hunter from hyperspace wound on 2+/AP1 combo and lychguards to get them rapidly to where they can be useful Not sure about the CCB for Trazyn; for me, CCB=warscythe Trazyn's empathic obliterator does not "obliterate" in the sweep attacks provided by the CCB as per FAQ. Might be worth it if you want to charge things like fire warriors : the AV13 chariot would wave off small arm fire up to S6. We'll have to see in 7th if chariots, as vehicles, remain unlocked in CC, which impede chariot rider from locking shooty units in CC. Edited by Olfgund, May 23 2014, 02:56 PM.
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