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Vehicles in 7th edition; How does the new Vehicle Damage Table affect Necrons?
Topic Started: May 21 2014, 02:21 PM (529 Views)
Unholyllama
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So while 7th is still 3 days away from being released, the last white dwarf weekly have been stressing that Vehicle Damage Table has been altered to now include a 7+ similar to the building damage table. Not only this but 7+ is the new Explosion result. While no one yet knows what the new 6 is, WDWs have been pretty consistent in saying that you can only 1-shot a vehicle using AP2 or AP1 weaponry (I'll presume Open Top still affects it too but maybe not).

In my opinion, this somewhat hurts Necrons since, currently, most of us tend to focus on the use of Tesla Destructors in order to be our anti-vehicle unless we get a Warscythe within range or the scarabs need a snack. Since Tesla is AP-, this will mean that we have to whittle away hull points now instead of hoping for that explosion. This isn't a huge change but it is something that affects some of our go-to armaments.

So with that out the way - what do you guys think? Do you think we'll need to be running more Heavy Gauss Cannons and Heat Rays or do you think stripping Hull Points more so than we already do will just turn into the new norm?
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Secundum
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Not that being immobolised did anything to them anyway, thanks to the linking rule...speaking of, I wonder if they will make it better?
Edited by Secundum, May 23 2014, 06:33 PM.
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Omar
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IC's cannot join MC's?

there go our spyder star builds..
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Unholyllama
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Omar
May 22 2014, 07:18 PM
IC's cannot join MC's?

there go our spyder star builds..
True - but more importantly, it prevents O'vesa, Buff Commander, or Farsight from joining up with riptides. Really, spyder-star is cool but no where near as effective as the shenanigans Tau (and Taudar) was able to pull off.
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deth110
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Yes!
CCB survives now!
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Oberron
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lame.... thats what i always used obyron for! lamesause indeed but for the greater good of balance i guess. I can still always stick him somewhere else
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Unholyllama
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One thing I"m curious to see is if there's additional tweaks to Chariots. While the Command Barge is really the only one that sees the light of day, the other 40k chariots are in Daemons and are either "meh" or truly unplayable given how 6th worded rules. Being unable to be immobalized will help the Slaneesh and Khorne chariots but we'll see what happens with the Tzeentch ones which was the unplayable model.

Actually, looking at Khorne and Slaneesh chariots, they could cause some issues but thankfully they cannot be taken as squadrons.
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Magister Jaigo
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rulebook in hand i wanted to share this.

chariot and rider count as one model
Character therefore cannot disembark from a chariot
but... when we roll everliving.. both return. chariot with 1 hp..

.... I like this
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Secundum
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...That is horrifically broken and I like it. Going to give my chariotlord a Res Orb just for that...wait...IF WE GET A PHYLACTERY DOES IT COME BACK WITH FULL HULL POINTS!?
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yes it does

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worth the points?
totaly!
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Unholyllama
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OMG!

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EDIT -

Rules questions for chariots have a thread in the rules forum - http://w11.zetaboards.com/Necrontyr_Online/topic/10289193/
Edited by Unholyllama, May 23 2014, 10:14 PM.
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Omar
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if the rider and chariot are one model do we get a 2+ 3++ against shooting attacks if i take semp weave and a phase shifter?
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Omar
May 23 2014, 09:42 PM
if the rider and chariot are one model do we get a 2+ 3++ against shooting attacks if i take semp weave and a phase shifter?
There's changes to how shooting attacks are allocated between chariot and passenger.

Check the rules thread for details - http://w11.zetaboards.com/Necrontyr_Online/topic/10289193/1/#new
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Carnotek
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still explode on a 4+ if ap 1 is still the same. a little better but im not going crazy about it
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Carnotek
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Can I put Vargard in a barge to make it WS 6 or will they have to start and stay in barge ?
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First, special characters (Nemesor, Trazen, Imotek, etc.) can no longer take CCB
Second, the rider must stay in the chariot at all times.
Edited by deth110, Jun 18 2014, 01:51 AM.
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