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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 31 2014, 12:21 AM (291 Views) | |
| Carnotek | Jul 31 2014, 12:21 AM Post #1 |
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Flayed One
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Just impulse brought the Night bringer C'Tan because I have always loved the model, any one have and hints in the best way to use these guys other than go forth and break stuff |
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| deth110 | Jul 31 2014, 12:41 AM Post #2 |
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Well as Kharn would say "KILL MAIM BURN KILL MAIM BURN!" But other than that, times arrow and whip coils are funny together. Orikan and writhering worldscape of course. Could take sentient singularity and ES and go tank hunting. Other than that I would suggest you explore different combinations of powers and see what works best. |
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| Carnotek | Jul 31 2014, 01:08 AM Post #3 |
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Flayed One
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do whips and times arrow work what takes effect 1st ? |
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| gravmyr | Jul 31 2014, 01:49 AM Post #4 |
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Deathmark
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Active player's choice. |
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| deth110 | Jul 31 2014, 02:36 AM Post #5 |
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Lychguard
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Tyranid MC=Bye bye |
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| Unholyllama | Jul 31 2014, 04:05 AM Post #6 |
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First off - I too love the model however I would advise pinning the scythe blade and not just glue it. While my old metal one is less sturdy as the resin one, I still have seen people lose the blade or have to reattach it from a rough ride even in foam. As for a load out and tricks there are a lot of options; however, he works best as either a tactical piece (like withering Worldscape) or as just anti-horde. While he can go toe to toe with just about anything thanks to being T7 and eternal warrior, only having a 4++ save hurts. My recommendation is to just try him out and see how you like him. He only moves 6" so you'll need to watch how you move and deploy him if you want him to see action. A few more things : - he's the only model in the codex that is I4 100% of the time. - he is the only model in our codex that can get defensive grenades - his explosion can be surprisingly effective and is often underestimated. |
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| gravmyr | Jul 31 2014, 12:29 PM Post #7 |
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Have to agree with giving him a try. C'tan end up a huge fire draw. You can use him as a distraction, albeit a huge points cost one. If entropic strike applied to shooting as well I think you would see an increase in their use. |
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| Unholyllama | Jul 31 2014, 01:33 PM Post #8 |
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Had a VERY odd idea last night after my last post about C'Tan shards. They are characters...and thus can be your warlord now in 7th edition. Warlords just need to be a character now and not even a HQ. With this in mind, a brand new trick could be to make him your warlord and either roll on personal traits to buff him or command to give him a nice AOE bubble for the rest of the army to benefit. In addition, it completely undermines the years of "warlords are HQ" that has been the case - freeing up your overlords from fear of dying. Now - an overlord with a normal 2+ save is arguably more resilient than just a 4++; however, a Warlord C'Tan could be an interesting strategy. Plus, deep down I'm sure we all want to see our opponents face when we show up with a Gaze of Death C'Tan that has Feel No Pain or It Will Not Die. |
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| OhLongJohnson | Jul 31 2014, 03:08 PM Post #9 |
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This is an excellent idea unholy!!! In a battleforged army, the chance to get "feel no pain" or "it will not die" is actually more than 50% (5/9), because we can reroll the warlord trait!! Feel no pain would be excellent for the C'tan. Also in strategic traits there is one that allows you to give some non-vehicle-units infiltrate. So it would be possible to get a C'tan with infiltrate!! (and when you get infiltrate, you also get outflank...) |
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| Unholyllama | Jul 31 2014, 03:50 PM Post #10 |
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Personally, I would be more tempted to try this in an Unbound list just so I don't need to commit points to an HQ slot. But yea. Outflank is a crapshoot but could yield some interesting results. IWND or FNP are both brutal on a T7 W4 4++ model. Really anything on the personal traits table would be useful - sans maybe 1. Though I would need to make sure I get the right powers to use it the most effectively. |
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| Carnotek | Jul 31 2014, 11:03 PM Post #11 |
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Flayed One
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Thanks for the info all Just so I have my ducks lined up what page states I get to choose in what order modifiers take place ? Edited by Carnotek, Jul 31 2014, 11:27 PM.
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| gravmyr | Jul 31 2014, 11:40 PM Post #12 |
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pg 17 sequencing, active player chooses which order multiple same time rules apply. |
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| Carnotek | Jul 31 2014, 11:41 PM Post #13 |
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Flayed One
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cheers |
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| Oberron | Aug 1 2014, 12:22 AM Post #14 |
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The c'tan is a beast in CC vs anything that isn't a hyper CC monster themselves. ws5 and T7 means he is hard to harm, and EW means no instant death, he is an MC so ap2 on all his s7 attacks so he goes around snapping mortals necks. Just a tiny nitpick here but gaze of flame gives defensive grenades too. My biggest problem with the shards is their size wise slow as granny move speed of 6". He doesn't need to move 12" just give him like 3 or so extra inches still slower then jump units and anything that is "fast" faster then an imp guard at least. And that the c'tan's ES strickly says its melee only kinda stinks too but then again would be stupid strong on pryeshards. |
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| OhLongJohnson | Aug 1 2014, 01:00 AM Post #15 |
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Yeah, speed and 4++ is a problem. Thats why I think the shard should be run together with a monolith. DS the monolith, then get the shard to is gate. Or just walk the monolith to the opponent, then get the shard there safely... |
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| Carnotek | Aug 2 2014, 11:24 PM Post #16 |
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Flayed One
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Speed wasn't an issue the first game I played him in was against a D/E player who killed him in turn 1 before I even got to move him haha but I knew that was going to happen I thought I was playing dark angels |
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| Quinten87 | Aug 5 2014, 10:02 PM Post #17 |
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Lychguard
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I love running mine with gaze of death and times arrow. This combination will kill pretty much anything in the game in close combat; the only problem is getting him there. Luckily you can deep strike the monolinth and slingshot him out of the portal. My opponents face goes white when I do this as he now has a t7 4++ close combat monster on his doorstep combined with an av14 living metal fortress that has immense firepower. |
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