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4000pt game Necron Vs. Dark eldar; Brother vs. Brother need help!
Topic Started: Dec 21 2017, 04:58 AM (79 Views)
Totentanzen
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Warrior
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Playing my first giant game in 8th. I've heard crons don't scale well but I want to pull our some big guns. Thoughts on his list?

A Cryptek in a different org could still affect my other organizations correct?

Anything you have seen work well against dark eldar?

Let me know if this is showing too many numbers or is against forum rules. Thanks!

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Necrons) [145 PL, 2795pts] ++

+ Heavy Support +

Annihilation Barge [7 PL, 146pts]: Tesla Cannon

Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 203pts]

Monolith [19 PL, 381pts]

+ Troops +

Immortals [8 PL, 170pts]: 10x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Necron Warriors [12 PL, 240pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

Necron Warriors [12 PL, 240pts]: 20x Necron Warrior

+ Fast Attack +

Canoptek Scarabs [4 PL, 52pts]: 4x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Canoptek Scarabs [4 PL, 52pts]: 4x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Canoptek Scarabs [4 PL, 52pts]: 4x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

+ HQ +

Cryptek [6 PL, 104pts]: Staff of Light

Overlord [7 PL, 112pts]: The Veil of Darkness, Warscythe
. Warlord: Warlord Trait (BRB 1): Legendary Fighter

Overlord [7 PL, 112pts]: Warscythe

+ Elites +

Deathmarks [5 PL, 100pts]: 5x Deathmark

Lychguard [16 PL, 300pts]: 10x Lychguard, Warscythe

Triarch Praetorians [16 PL, 350pts]: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian

Triarch Stalker [8 PL, 181pts]: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon

++ Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons) [58 PL, 1202pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

(FW) Gauss Pylon [24 PL, 550pts]

Tesseract Vault [24 PL, 496pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Canoptek Scarabs [4 PL, 52pts]: 4x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

+ HQ +

Cryptek [6 PL, 104pts]: Staff of Light

++ Total: [203 PL, 3997pts] ++

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miek
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Good morning!

I think you should hide point values. I'm not sure it's againts the rules (haven't checked), but they aren't needed for the discussion anyways.

I consider myself as a rather new player because I play very rarely, but since no one else has replied I can try to provide some of my observations. My brother has a DE army so I got to play against them quite a few times.

Deathmarks were awesome, but I'd stick to units of 5. They are so, so much better than in 7th, and appear to be ideally suited to take out those pesky IC with invulnerable saves. They will get wiped out on the next turn though, which is why I wouldn't make the unit bitter than 5.

Scarabs are obviously awesome, can't get enough of those. They were my objective grabbers, harassers, etc. If he ignores them they score VP, charge vehicules, etc., and if he shoots them so what! Plus I may be wrong, but I don't believe DE have many reliable sources of mortal wounds so he tended to overdamage the scarab models.

I think troops are close to useless against DE in 8th. With only 24" range, a DE can very easily get mostly out of range and shoot from afar. They can be fun if you manage to put objectives close to the center of the table but at 4000 pts I think 20 warriors will be very, very easy to wipe in a shooting turn. Waste of points IMO.

DE has a LOT of vehicules with the FLY keyword, so Sentry Pylons work great. They shouldn't lack good targets for the whole game.

QS is now much better against Dark Lances, and with Living Metal I feel our vehicules are now much tougher against DE.

Sorry got to cut this short, my 1½ old daughter is getting restless. My recommendation would be HORDES of scarabs, many though vehicules, 2~3 5-man Deathmark squards, no troops (or scarce usage of troops), and Lychguards for protection. Praeterians with no Warriors/Immortals would probably draw too much fire. No C'Tan.

Let us know how it plays out, I'd love to get more insight for my next game against DE. Apologies in advance if my advices turn out not to be optimal, as I said I'm still rather new to 40k, especially 8th edition.
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